vardy is prem top scorer, but i wouldn't want him here. strikers who prove themselves at the top level are a different beast altogether than a player who is a one season wonder. this season is a purple patch for many teams and players, but i personally don't see them having success next season when the bigger teams strengthen and actually make the league competitive again. this season has been shambolic for most of the big boys.  people would be silly to think this bad run from the top teams will continue to run for the next season or more.

You reply to a post about Defoe but don't actually talk about him, weird. Defoe is a proven PL goal scorer for many years. Actually he is a top finisher and always has been, before the season I would of taken him over Pato, Falco or Remy. Whether he would of come though to play second fiddle is a different story but his no one season wonder. Costa needs some competition.

Costa was poor against City, i actually didn't see his usual hard work and running for every ball. However the team overall was very poor and should have done much better.

Will atletico use the extra champions league cash to bring him back?

Will atletico use the extra champions league cash to bring him back?

I reckon they will try specially with the big money they got for Martinez. Been reading rumours of Higuin again and I personally think he would be an ideal replacement if Costa does want to leave.

We must keep Costa.

 

He is a leader along with Fabregas and they're both pivotal to the future of the club. We lack leaders as it is, we can't lose JT and Diego Costa in the same season.

 

Plus I loved the way they both wound up the away end when Hazard scored.

We must keep Costa.

 

He is a leader along with Fabregas and they're both pivotal to the future of the club. We lack leaders as it is, we can't lose JT and Diego Costa in the same season.

 

Plus I loved the way they both wound up the away end when Hazard scored.

 

Both goals that were scored vs spuds were due to actions for Costa - he won the corner that Cahill scored from & he assisted Hazard on his goal - one thing we must remember though & this might be deem controversial, but I believe DC didn't perform under Mourinho - I find it very strange the moment Jose left, DC started to like a proper #9 - why didn't this happened when Jose was asking this from him?

Costa obviously fell out with Jose !

Costa decided he wanted Jose to get the sack........Along with a long list of many others players who also fell out with Jose.....to name a few......Hazard, Oscar, Mikel, Matic, Fabragas ....etc, etc.

The main reason IMO was the way Jose mistreated the club doctor and the sarcastic comments about the players ........made by Jose to the media.

However like most fans, I believe the players including Costa should have "got on with their overpaid jobs" and played 100% for Chelsea football club and us fans, despite them having major issues and dislike of Jose.

But they chose not to ......consequently player power got Jose the sack, as obviously the board could not sack the majority of the team.....players these days have no morals or sense of loyalty except John Terry, captain leader, legend.

We must keep Costa.

 

He is a leader along with Fabregas and they're both pivotal to the future of the club. We lack leaders as it is, we can't lose JT and Diego Costa in the same season.

 

Plus I loved the way they both wound up the away end when Hazard scored.

Ah Jesus H!

If Costa is our new leader we are in even deeper trouble than I could ever have thought possible.

I really wish our faux tough man Diego was playing in the era of genuinely disturbed players like Vinnie Jones or the King of the mentals, Roy Mental Keane. I'd love to see sad Diego doing the mad eyes and the angry titty bump to Roy and then 5 minutes later finding himself out for 9 months with cruciate ligament damage when Roy scythed him off at the knee while the ball was 20 yards away.

Christ, we have had the glory of JT, Lampard, Drogba. They were genuine heroes. They were leaders. Costa isnt fit to kiss their feet as player or a personality and if you can't see that I feel for you.

I'm sickened you can even compare JT and Costa as leaders.

That's a bit harsh, you could get away with more in Keane's era for a start, less stern officiating. Drogba didn't start off as a hero, in fact he started to become more of a leader in the third season, next season will be Diego's third with us.

so what if JT etc was a hero? no one is disputing that. that guy simply stated that Costa showed a glimpse of leadership. is he not allowed to lead just because his name isn't John Terry?

Costa obviously fell out with Jose !

Costa decided he wanted Jose to get the sack........Along with a long list of many others players who also fell out with Jose.....to name a few......Hazard, Oscar, Mikel, Matic, Fabragas ....etc, etc.

The main reason IMO was the way Jose mistreated the club doctor and the sarcastic comments about the players ........made by Jose to the media.

 

 

Are you for real? I think you are, what else could it be? sure, maybe they should act professional through out but then I think they have a case to be upset.. players not performing for their manager is not something new anyway..

 

Hopefully, we won't ever have this kind of problem again in the future...  

I'm sickened you can even compare JT and Costa as leaders.

 

It's like comparing Winston Churchill to Two Jags Prescott

Please don't go

Di - e - go !

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Edited May 7, 201610 yr by JMaher94

That's a bit harsh, you could get away with more in Keane's era for a start, less stern officiating. Drogba didn't start off as a hero, in fact he started to become more of a leader in the third season, next season will be Diego's third with us.E

Exactly.

 

so what if JT etc was a hero? no one is disputing that. that guy simply stated that Costa showed a glimpse of leadership. is he not allowed to lead just because his name isn't John Terry?

Thank you, never said he was on par with JT for leadership qualities.

 

Ah Jesus H!

If Costa is our new leader we are in even deeper trouble than I could ever have thought possible.

I really wish our faux tough man Diego was playing in the era of genuinely disturbed players like Vinnie Jones or the King of the mentals, Roy Mental Keane. I'd love to see sad Diego doing the mad eyes and the angry titty bump to Roy and then 5 minutes later finding himself out for 9 months with cruciate ligament damage when Roy scythed him off at the knee while the ball was 20 yards away.

Christ, we have had the glory of JT, Lampard, Drogba. They were genuine heroes. They were leaders. Costa isnt fit to kiss their feet as player or a personality and if you can't see that I feel for you.

I'm sickened you can even compare JT and Costa as leaders.

 

 

Talk about taking what I said too far...

 

JT is in his own department when it comes to leadership and that is quite clearly obvious.

 

Look at us when Costa went off against PSG, we completely fell apart because we had no one else to turn to. This doesn't mean I think Costa is on the same level as JT for leadership qualities, same as I think with Cesc but he's much more of a leader than anyone else in our squad bar probably Cesc and Azpi (maybe) even though that's not saying much.

 

No need to be so condescending, I can go back and find many posts of yours about Torres which were quite frankly embarassing considering he was a Chelsea player.

Should have scored 2 or 3 today not at his best, don't know what to expect off him half the time.

That's a bit harsh, you could get away with more in Keane's era for a start, less stern officiating. Drogba didn't start off as a hero, in fact he started to become more of a leader in the third season, next season will be Diego's third with us.

Firstly I don't accept things were different in the Keane era. The Keane era wasn't all that long ago.

Secondly Costa isn't that good and he isnt going to improve. He certainly isn't a leader. Not by any stretch of the imagination. He, is in fact, symptomatic of everything that is wrong with Chelsea at the moment. A major step back in quality and personality.

As someone has already pointed he is our very own Luis Suarez but with a third of the talent. The way he acts, the horrible niggly digs and fouls, the genuine nasty stuff, and the outraged hardman act is embarrassing and sad. If you criticise Suarez you are a hypocrite to support and condone the behaviour of Costa. What he gets from officials and opponents he deserves. And the team as a whole is tarred with that brush.

It kills me when people mention him and Drogba in the same breath. There is not a single facet of the game in which Costa is better than Drogba. Not one. And he certainly is no JT.

Firstly I don't accept things were different in the Keane era. The Keane era wasn't all that long ago.

Secondly Costa isn't that good and he isnt going to improve. He certainly isn't a leader. Not by any stretch of the imagination. He, is in fact, symptomatic of everything that is wrong with Chelsea at the moment. A major step back in quality and personality.

As someone has already pointed he is our very own Luis Suarez but with a third of the talent. The way he acts, the horrible niggly digs and fouls, the genuine nasty stuff, and the outraged hardman act is embarrassing and sad. If you criticise Suarez you are a hypocrite to support and condone the behaviour of Costa. What he gets from officials and opponents he deserves. And the team as a whole is tarred with that brush.

It kills me when people mention him and Drogba in the same breath. There is not a single facet of the game in which Costa is better than Drogba. Not one. And he certainly is no JT.

 

He has one of the best goals to game ratios in the Premier League. Why do you think the best manager in the world is so desperate to get him back to Atletico?

 

He was majorly responsible for a league title last year which was the reason we didn't win it the year before because we had 3 average strikers.

 

Costa has been better in his first two years at Chelsea than Drogba was and Drogba had a much better squad around him. You go on about his personality, but wasn't Drogba partly responsible for us not winning in Moscow after slapping Vidic in the face in extra time and falling over at the drop of a hat? Also, you say about Costa not improving but didn't Didier get better with age?

 

He might not be as good as Drogba or maybe even half the man as Drogba but you're basing your opinion of Costa from two seasons, one of which he finished our top scorer and was one of our best players. Drogba wasn't even our best striker in his first two seasons.

 

I am by no means slating Drogba at all, he is a phenomenal striker and a brilliant person but lets not act like he was a saint especially in his first few seasons at the club.

Edited May 7, 201610 yr by JMaher94

He has one of the best goals to game ratios in the Premier League. Why do you think the best manager in the world is so desperate to get him back to Atletico?

 

He was majorly responsible for a league title last year which was the reason we didn't win it the year before because we had 3 average strikers.

 

Costa has been better in his first two years at Chelsea than Drogba was and Drogba had a much better squad around him. You go on about his personality, but wasn't Drogba partly responsible for us not winning in Moscow after slapping Vidic in the face in extra time and falling over at the drop of a hat? Also, you say about Costa not improving but didn't Didier get better with age?

 

He might not be as good as Drogba or maybe even half the man as Drogba but you're basing your opinion of Costa from two seasons, one of which he finished our top scorer and was one of our best players. Drogba wasn't even our best striker in his first two seasons.

 

I am by no means slating Drogba at all, he is a phenomenal striker and a brilliant person but lets not act like he was a saint especially in his first few seasons at the club.

There is so much wrong in your post and JMmaher revision of history It's hard to know where to start. I'll admit from the off I don't agree with much of what you post on most subjects, but particularly on strikers. You rated Torres for starters and we know how that ended.

So, before Drogba, we had a striker who regularly scored 20 goals a season and yet we never really troubled the big teams. In Drogba's first season we won the league title for the first time in 50 years and scored a record amount of goals from midfield and defenders. Why? Because we had, for the first time since Kerry Dixon, a forward who could play all over the pitch. He defended, he held the ball, he won balls in the air. In an injury blighted start he still scored goals and the chances he made for others were staggering. Don't take my word for it though, read what Lamps and JT have written about his impact.

There is so much wrong in your post and JMmaher revision of history It's hard to know where to start. I'll admit from the off I don't agree with much of what you post on most subjects, but particularly on strikers. You rated Torres for starters and we know how that ended.

So, before Drogba, we had a striker who regularly scored 20 goals a season and yet we never really troubled the big teams. In Drogba's first season we won the league title for the first time in 50 years and scored a record amount of goals from midfield and defenders. Why? Because we had, for the first time since Kerry Dixon, a forward who could play all over the pitch. He defended, he held the ball, he won balls in the air. In an injury blighted start he still scored goals and the chances he made for others were staggering. Don't take my word for it though, read what Lamps and JT have written about his impact.

 

Well considering I don't make as many posts on this forum anymore, I think that's a load of rubbish but there you go. I didn't rate Torres, I thought he was poor at Chelsea but your posts about him were over the top especially for someone who plays for us.

 

So if Drogba was so good in his first two seasons at Chelsea, then why was there always rumours that he wanted to leave in 2006? He even said himself in his autobiography that he was thinking of quitting but Lampard convinced him to stay on after texting him. Drogba was part of the, in my opinion, best ever Premier League side with the best manager in the world so that's more to do with the fact we won the league title in 04/05 and 05/06.

 

Since you hated Torres and seem to have a massive disliking of Costa, who do you think should be our number #1 striker next season?

Edited May 7, 201610 yr by JMaher94

Well considering I don't make as many posts on this forum anymore, I think that's a load of rubbish but there you go. I didn't rate Torres, I thought he was poor at Chelsea but your posts about him were over the top especially for someone who plays for us.

 

So if Drogba was so good in his first two seasons at Chelsea, then why was there always rumours that he wanted to leave in 2006? He even said himself in his autobiography that he was thinking of quitting but Lampard convinced him to stay on after texting him. Drogba was part of the, in my opinion, best ever Premier League side with the best manager in the world so that's more to do with the fact we won the league title in 04/05 and 05/06.

 

Since you hated Torres and seem to have a massive disliking of Costa, who do you think should be our number #1 striker next season?

Let's not stray or make this personal. You said Costa was better than Drogba in his first two season. I reiterate, I think you are wrong, misinformed and rewriting history.

Could you read this please;

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2006/apr/10/match.sport7

The background to the game was we were in the box seat for the title but treading water as United gained ground in recent weeks and the Fergie Squeaky bum mind games were in full throttle.

We went a goal down. We had Maniche sent off. The West Ham fans were having a paartaay. And then the pikeys were well and truly Drogba'd. I was lucky enough to be at the game. I am 54. It remains, to this day, the greatest centre forward display I have ever seen. There were other players wearing blue shirts that day but they were mostly irrelevant. Drogba won that game on his own by sheer force of will and talent. That comeback victory revivved our self-belief and won us the league.

Now, you give me one match in the past two seasons where Costa has done anything even remotely close to that.

This is worth reading to from the 2006/07 season

http://www.chelseafcblog.com/feature/so-how-was-it-for-you-the-200607-season-review/

Please don't ever compare Drogba and Costa again.

Let's not stray or make this personal. You said Costa was better than Drogba in his first two season. I reiterate, I think you are wrong, misinformed and rewriting history.

Could you read this please;

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2006/apr/10/match.sport7

The background to the game was we were in the box seat for the title but treading water as United gained ground in recent weeks and the Fergie Squeaky bum mind games were in full throttle.

We went a goal down. We had Maniche sent off. The West Ham fans were having a paartaay. And then the pikeys were well and truly Drogba'd. I was lucky enough to be at the game. I am 54. It remains, to this day, the greatest centre forward display I have ever seen. There were other players wearing blue shirts that day but they were mostly irrelevant. Drogba won that game on his own by sheer force of will and talent. That comeback victory revivved our self-belief and won us the league.

Now, you give me one match in the past two seasons where Costa has done anything even remotely close to that.

This is worth reading to from the 2006/07 season

http://www.chelseafcblog.com/feature/so-how-was-it-for-you-the-200607-season-review/

Please don't ever compare Drogba and Costa again.

 

"Lets not stray and make this personal" despite you bringing up that you never agree with what I say.

 

I know the match that you're talking about and I remember how good Drogba was in that game.

 

His hat trick against Swansea after going 1-0 down basically won us the game before Remy added the fourth. Costa was phenomenal against Everton in 3-6 game as well.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29090529

Alan Shearer on Diego Costa: "Everything impressed me about Diego Costa today. He is tailor-made for the Premier League. The way he runs the line, in behind and can hold the ball up. He is going to love the Premier League and the Chelsea fans will love him. "He is looking the real deal. When it is not going as it should for them they have a goalscorer who can get them out of it."

 

You're making out as if I prefer Diego Costa to Didier Drogba which is simply not the case, I will compare there first two seasons as I think they're relatively similar. Let's get a second opinion of someone else as you seem to feel so strongly about it...

 

Could you give this a read please? It's Dan Levene comparing Costa and Drogba's first two seasons.

 

http://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/premier-league/2015-2016/chelsea-fans-jeering-diego-costa-just-as-they-did-didier-drogba-but-can-he-respond-the-same-way_sto5000474/story.shtml

Edited May 8, 201610 yr by JMaher94

I read the link. The author says Drogba could rarely be accused of not trying, I agree. Unlike Costa for a large part of this season. And whilst Drogba did hit the ground too easily at the start of his career he was never involved in the pointless niggly, nasty, wind-up incidents that Costa gets himself embroiled in practically every game. That isn't leadership.

And I accept the two games you offered are matches where Costa may have played well and scored goals, but they are not anywhere close to being a game he totally dominated and won on his own. That was what Drogba did against West Ham that day and with the title on the line and the circumstances involved, down to ten men and a goal behind early in the match, give it an entirely different context.

Edited May 8, 201610 yr by just

I read the link. The author says Drogba could rarely be accused of not trying, I agree. Unlike Costa for a large part of this season. And whilst Drogba did hit the ground too easily at the start of his career he was never involved in the pointless niggly, nasty, wind-up incidents that Costa gets himself embroiled in practically every game. That isn't leadership.

And I accept the two games you offered are matches where Costa may have played well and scored goals, but they are not anywhere close to being a game he totally dominated and won on his own. That was what Drogba did against West Ham that day and with the title on the line and the circumstances involved, down to ten men and a goal behind early in the match, give it an entirely different context.

 

When drogba was falling out of love with football, he didn't try and did he try under scolari? scolari actually stayed longer that season than jose this season and what about avb? did he try?

 

drogba is considered a legend no doubt but not to say he's rarely quilty of not giving 100%, there was actually quite number of times where he couldn't be arsed to my frustration..  

 

The way I see it, both players are equally quilty in the case of not trying when they don't want to, the difference lies at their style, one would embroiled himself in excessive wind up incidents, the other would rolling over the field at almost every possible touch.. 

That's the funny thing, we go on about saying how spineless and pathetic our players are for getting Jose sacked and we need a clear out. We didn't mind too much when Drogba, Lampard, Terry, Cole ect. were doing the same. The only difference was this time the manager was sacked 2 months too late to salvage the season.