Emenalo is certainly not the source of all our problems, but I absolutely do expect our head scout to be there ahead of everyone else when it comes to players like Vidal and make sure that our squad is full of quality players. And by squad I don't mean just the first 11. 

 

I would say Emenalo failed to do that. Am I crazy or what?

The thing is with Emanalo, if he is identifying players and going after them, it isn't a matter of saying he doesn't know a good player or even that he doesn't sometimes come up with a bargain, it's more that the manager here (more than at other clubs) should be identifying those targets.

With Mourinho it isn't just a case of getting in a good player for a position we need to strengthen, it has to be a player that Jose feels is right for the squad and can play that position the way he wants him to.

Obviously all managers at all teams would like to be in full control over ins and outs but here we have seen that being good isn't enough for Jose, you have to be able to play the way he wants and if you can't even if you are one of the better signings, you will be gone.

I think to improve and really having a squad of players the manager can trust then he needs to be the one identifying the players he wants and the owner after all this time should be trusting him and financing it.

I'm not even knocking Emanalo he's brought in some good players and some have been snips but he shouldn't be the one to make the decisions in a Mourinho team, I'd have no problem with him suggesting players and Jose having the final say which could be the case but my gut feeling says it isn't so for me he needs to either step back and do the managers bidding or leave.

Mourinho indentifying every player we want to bring in simply isnt possible in todays football. There is way too much thats invilved when scouting a player its a full time job and Mourinho already have enough on his plate managing the team. What I assume happens is that Mourinho might identify a couple of high profile targets he wants, but other then that he can only identify positions and skillsets that he is looking for and trust the scoutingnetwork to bring in players that fits what the manager is looking for.

As he said with Djilobobby (whatever) is that he had never seen him play but he trusted the man who recommended him, as that was the same person who recommended Zouma. Which is quite understandeble, it would be too much for Mourinho to watch French second division in addition to his other tasks. With modern football, having complete control over transfers is just not possible outside of marquee signings

Got to admit to not really knowing what Emenalo's role is and how much of an actual say he has in things? "Football or Sporting Director" or whatever his title is, is a bit of a cloudy area.

 

Have never liked that sort of structure. Have always felt that unless a coach / manager actually wants a football director then he should be in charge of ALL football matters and just delegate when he needs to. How responsible Emenalo is for things going wrong is anyones guess but IMO, just the fact he is here, undermines Mourinho. Plus I can't forget how his name cropped up a lot in the dismissal of Ray Wilkins - again, not knowing how much truth in that? I've just got a feeling in my water that it's ALL HIS FAULT so let's just GET RID!!

 

And once we have, go and poach the Southampton scouting network.

Well whoever's idea it was to sign Salah, Cuadrado, Papy, Hector and a few others needs to go. Awful.

Blame the guy that signed Lukaku, Hazard , De Bruyne, Courtois, Azpilicueta because of Mourinho's incompetency.

 

With Eva and Emenalo gone we're quickly running out of scapegoats.

Got to admit to not really knowing what Emenalo's role is and how much of an actual say he has in things? "Football or Sporting Director" or whatever his title is, is a bit of a cloudy area.

 

Have never liked that sort of structure. Have always felt that unless a coach / manager actually wants a football director then he should be in charge of ALL football matters and just delegate when he needs to. How responsible Emenalo is for things going wrong is anyones guess but IMO, just the fact he is here, undermines Mourinho. Plus I can't forget how his name cropped up a lot in the dismissal of Ray Wilkins - again, not knowing how much truth in that? I've just got a feeling in my water that it's ALL HIS FAULT so let's just GET RID!!

 

And once we have, go and poach the Southampton scouting network.

 

It's also the thought of nepotism that disturbs me. Marina Granvoskaia, well, she has 20 years of experience working with Abramovich and as long as she just negotiates the terms I guess it's good for everyone, but what has Emenalo done prior to Chelsea? I read he coached girls. That's nothing to do with scouting. If at least he worked at some youth dev centre of some bigger club.

 

If I was Mourinho, someone who's won it all and seen it all, I would feel uncomfortable having someone like Emenalo around with so much input. It's like Terry talking about Savage: 'How are you to tell me what to do?'

 

Mourinho won't come out and say something like that about Emenalo. But when we bought Djiloboji and Mourinho claimed the decision was made by someone he 'trusts and respects fully' in such an overly exaggerated manner we all knew what he meant: 'Emenalo got him. He is annoying. Neither do I know what to do with him nor with the players he brings in.'

Blame the guy that signed Lukaku, Hazard , De Bruyne, Courtois, Azpilicueta because of Mourinho's incompetency.

 

With Eva and Emenalo gone we're quickly running out of scapegoats.

 

No-one can sign only perfect players. You are bound to get some wrong including JM. Surely JM has the final say. Even Sir Red nose got some wrong FFS

Emenalo has been at Chelsea since 2007 having had chief scout and assistant first team coach roles but its his time as Technical Director I want to focus on, he was appointed in this position in July 2011. So lets look at the transfers that have occurred during this period. I won't be including loans or free transfers in this process. I will also be excluding the players signed in during the latest transfer window as we can't be sure of how useful or not the players will be.

Players in 2011/2012 season; Juan Mata (£19m), Lukaku(£15m), Raul Meireles(£9.45m), Courtois(£6,27m), Cahill(£5.8m), KDB(£5.6m), Piazon(£5m), Romeu(£3m), Davilla(£1m), Bamford(£1m) 

Don't see any dudd transfers here. Courtois for just over £6m is frankly ridiculous, Mata was a great signing and we made a substantial profit, where as KDB and Lukaku were very good money turners, Meireles did a job and Cahill has also been a great servant to the club. Bamford looks a good investment at £1m as well.
Players out; the only ones of note Zhirkov(£10.5m) Matic at (£3.5m) and Jack Cork for peanuts
Matic is the only real blunder but I'd say the decision as to whether a player should be moved on is more the managers.

2012/2013 season Players in,   Eden Hazard (£28m), Oscar (£17,5m), Moses (£8m), Azpilicueta (£6m), Ba(£5.6m), Marin(£5.6m), Wallace(£3.78m) Thorgan Hazard(£0.35m)  

Some more very good signings Azpi at £6m was another absolutely brilliant find. T Hazard was also a massive monetary gain.
A couple of potential dudds in Marin and Wallace but at a combined £9m and very little if any wages actually spent it really wasn't that bad an investment and we are very likely to make money on Wallace.
   
Players Out; Sturridge(£10.5m), Meireles (£7m)
Sturridge was a seemingly bad sale, but for a player who wanted to leave, a doubling of the money we spent along with his severe injury problems in all fairness it wasn't to bad and recouping most of the money spent on Meireles was another good bit of business.

2013/2014 Players in; Willian(£24.85m), Matic (£17,5m), Schurrle(£15.4m), Salah(£11.5m) , Zouma(£10.22m) , MvG(£6.5m), Atsu(£2.1m), Perica(£1.7m), Cuevas(£1.33m)

Here we have another good set of signings in my eyes Willian has been our best player this season and is proving that he was well worth his high transfer fee, also the ability to admit we wrongly let Matic go and to bring him back was again another good bit of business. Zouma again looks like an inspired signing and there has been 1 in the last 3 seasons. MvG looks like a potentially quality Cm and at £6.5m that should be considered a good signing and potential gem. This was however a season in which we signed a few dudds  
Salah who has been massively criticised as a horrible signing despite making money for the club when you consider his loan fees and that we have agreed a future fee with Roma so on the whole it wasn't a bad signing. However Atsu, Perica and Cuevas looks set to contribute nothing to the side but at 5m for the 3 that looks set to be an overall profit but at worse a minimal loss.

Players out; Mata (£31.31m), KdB(£15.4m), Bruma(£2.45m)
Another reason our transfer policy has received a lot of stick recently is the letting good or potntially good players leave and Mata and KDB have been at the forefront of this, I'm not going to comment on whether the decision to let them go was right or not but in a monetary sense we made a lot of money on both and highlights how good they were as signings in the first place which should be a plus point towards Emenalo.

2014/2015 season Players in; Costa(£26.6m), Fabregas(£23.1m), Cuadrado(£21.7m), Falipe Luis(£14m), Remy(£9.24m), Pasalic (£1.75m)
Mourinho has been hailed for the majority of these signings, in our title winning season Costa and Fabregas looked to be the exact players the squad needed and the club were rightly praised for making these signings so efficiently.
However through Cuadrado and somehow Luis, Emenalo has been given some stick and admittedly Cuadrado is likely to be our first significant monetary loss during Emenalo's tenure, from a signing seeming rushed and over priced, a hasty replacement to the established but mainly bench warming Andre Schurrle, who's sale had been agreed in a last minute deal.
This transfer seemed so out of place and out of character for what has been a very successful transfer policy during Emenalo reign as technical director and this transfer received further scrutiny due to the perceived previous failing of signing wingers who just weren't quite good enough to challenge the first team despite being very talented. 
Luis came and went for minimal money and minimal game time and this very good LB has been regarded a flop by some as he couldn't make an impact in a very grounded and achieving squad.  

Players out; David Luis (£34.65m), Lukaku(£24.75m), Schurrle(£22.4m), Bertrand(£9.34m), Ba(£4.2m), Torres(£2.1m) Van Aanholt(£1.4m)  

Another few huge profits in this section and finally getting Torres of the books the only negative I see here is Bertrand who could have done the same job as Luis and count as home grown.

Transfer values and amounts from transfermarkt. 
 

Edited November 11, 201510 yr by PedroMendez

I swear everyone was singing Emenalo's praises 18 months ago, saying what great work he had done in building the loan army and selling some of the higher profile prospects that became surplus to requirements for big profits (Lukaku, KDB)...?

Edited November 11, 201510 yr by Celery1989

Blame the guy that signed Lukaku, Hazard , De Bruyne, Courtois, Azpilicueta because of Mourinho's incompetency.

 

With Eva and Emenalo gone we're quickly running out of scapegoats.

 

So you know for a fact it was Emenalo who was 100% responsible for these signings?

 

And Hazard, De Bruyne and Courtois were not exactly unknowns who he discovered and signed. We would have signed them regardless.

 

GET HIM OUT!

Edited November 11, 201510 yr by Nibs

Emenalo has been at Chelsea since 2007 having had chief scout and assistant first team coach roles but its his time as Technical Director I want to focus on, he was appointed in this position in July 2011. So lets look at the transfers that have occurred during this period. I won't be including loans or free transfers in this process. I will also be excluding the players signed in during the latest transfer window as we can't be sure of how useful or not the players will be.

Players in 2011/2012 season; Juan Mata (£19m), Lukaku(£15m), Raul Meireles(£9.45m), Courtois(£6,27m), Cahill(£5.8m), KDB(£5.6m), Piazon(£5m), Romeu(£3m), Davilla(£1m), Bamford(£1m) 

Don't see any dudd transfers here. Courtois for just over £6m is frankly ridiculous, Mata was a great signing and we made a substantial profit, where as KDB and Lukaku were very good money turners, Meireles did a job and Cahill has also been a great servant to the club. Bamford looks a good investment at £1m as well.

Players out; the only ones of note Zhirkov(£10.5m) Matic at (£3.5m) and Jack Cork for peanuts

Matic is the only real blunder but I'd say the decision as to whether a player should be moved on is more the managers.

2012/2013 season Players in,   Eden Hazard (£28m), Oscar (£17,5m), Moses (£8m), Azpilicueta (£6m), Ba(£5.6m), Marin(£5.6m), Wallace(£3.78m) Thorgan Hazard(£0.35m)  

Some more very good signings Azpi at £6m was another absolutely brilliant find. T Hazard was also a massive monetary gain.

A couple of potential dudds in Marin and Wallace but at a combined £9m and very little if any wages actually spent it really wasn't that bad an investment and we are very likely to make money on Wallace.

   

Players Out; Sturridge(£10.5m), Meireles (£7m)

Sturridge was a seemingly bad sale, but for a player who wanted to leave, a doubling of the money we spent along with his severe injury problems in all fairness it wasn't to bad and recouping most of the money spent on Meireles was another good bit of business.

2013/2014 Players in; Willian(£24.85m), Matic (£17,5m), Schurrle(£15.4m), Salah(£11.5m) , Zouma(£10.22m) , MvG(£6.5m), Atsu(£2.1m), Perica(£1.7m), Cuevas(£1.33m)

Here we have another good set of signings in my eyes Willian has been our best player this season and is proving that he was well worth his high transfer fee, also the ability to admit we wrongly let Matic go and to bring him back was again another good bit of business. Zouma again looks like an inspired signing and there has been 1 in the last 3 seasons. MvG looks like a potentially quality Cm and at £6.5m that should be considered a good signing and potential gem. This was however a season in which we signed a few dudds  

Salah who has been massively criticised as a horrible signing despite making money for the club when you consider his loan fees and that we have agreed a future fee with Roma so on the whole it wasn't a bad signing. However Atsu, Perica and Cuevas looks set to contribute nothing to the side but at 5m for the 3 that looks set to be an overall profit but at worse a minimal loss.

Players out; Mata (£31.31m), KdB(£15.4m), Bruma(£2.45m)

Another reason our transfer policy has received a lot of stick recently is the letting good or potntially good players leave and Mata and KDB have been at the forefront of this, I'm not going to comment on whether the decision to let them go was right or not but in a monetary sense we made a lot of money on both and highlights how good they were as signings in the first place which should be a plus point towards Emenalo.

2014/2015 season Players in; Costa(£26.6m), Fabregas(£23.1m), Cuadrado(£21.7m), Falipe Luis(£14m), Remy(£9.24m), Pasalic (£1.75m)

Mourinho has been hailed for the majority of these signings, in our title winning season Costa and Fabregas looked to be the exact players the squad needed and the club were rightly praised for making these signings so efficiently.

However through Cuadrado and somehow Luis, Emenalo has been given some stick and admittedly Cuadrado is likely to be our first significant monetary loss during Emenalo's tenure, from a signing seeming rushed and over priced, a hasty replacement to the established but mainly bench warming Andre Schurrle, who's sale had been agreed in a last minute deal.

This transfer seemed so out of place and out of character for what has been a very successful transfer policy during Emenalo reign as technical director and this transfer received further scrutiny due to the perceived previous failing of signing wingers who just weren't quite good enough to challenge the first team despite being very talented. 

Luis came and went for minimal money and minimal game time and this very good LB has been regarded a flop by some as he couldn't make an impact in a very grounded and achieving squad.  

Players out; David Luis (£34.65m), Lukaku(£24.75m), Schurrle(£22.4m), Bertrand(£9.34m), Ba(£4.2m), Torres(£2.1m) Van Aanholt(£1.4m)  

Another few huge profits in this section and finally getting Torres of the books the only negative I see here is Bertrand who could have done the same job as Luis and count as home grown.

Transfer values and amounts from transfermarkt. 

 

 

It's kind of ironic that this part only highlights how he failed. Only one player really made a significant, continuous difference and that was Hazard. But everyone knew Hazard, that was not scouting. Even Emenalo did!

 

And then look at the rest - 90% of them have hardly played, are out on loan or have left us to improve our competition, like KDB and Mata. Only one good deal, one! Luiz!

 

You know, you don't have to be a genius to sell your best players for good money, but you do have to be a genius to foresee which players you shouldn't sell and Emenalo is worse at it than the average fan in a pub.

 

Out with him asap.

It's kind of ironic that this part only highlights how he failed. Only one player really made a significant, continuous difference and that was Hazard. But everyone knew Hazard, that was not scouting. Even Emenalo did!

 

And then look at the rest - 90% of them have hardly played, are out on loan or have left us to improve our competition, like KDB and Mata. Only one good deal, one! Luiz!

 

You know, you don't have to be a genius to sell your best players for good money, but you do have to be a genius to foresee which players you shouldn't sell and Emenalo is worse at it than the average fan in a pub.

 

Out with him asap.

I don't think the manager wanting them to leave or the players them selves wanting to leave can be blamed on Emenalo, surely bringing in those players when they weren't as well known should be something that is applauded.  

Edited November 11, 201510 yr by PedroMendez

the poorest piece of business so far has been the acquisition of cuadrado and salah for a combined sum 30+ million, when we could have saved ourselves all the stress by being much smarter and buying alexis sanchez when we had the chance. how we ever missed out on him i do not know, especially when we were crying out for a right winger with a left foot who's also a goal threat. he was the absolute perfect player for that position and this team, with his work rate and goal threat. 

 

we could have had hazard - de bruyne/mata - sanchez as a 3 behind the striker, and hey even add aguero (and to go even further, neymar) to that mix and we would have had a ridiculously dangerous offensive line. oh well...one can look back and dream of what could have been. 

Edited November 11, 201510 yr by enigma

It's kind of ironic that this part only highlights how he failed. Only one player really made a significant, continuous difference and that was Hazard. But everyone knew Hazard, that was not scouting. Even Emenalo did!

 

And then look at the rest - 90% of them have hardly played, are out on loan or have left us to improve our competition, like KDB and Mata. Only one good deal, one! Luiz!

 

You know, you don't have to be a genius to sell your best players for good money, but you do have to be a genius to foresee which players you shouldn't sell and Emenalo is worse at it than the average fan in a pub.

 

Out with him asap.

Wasn't it that Russian lady who did the negotiations for the Luiz fee?

 

As stated, Hazard was the hottest transfer product in the world during that window and he only signed because we won the CL, so as far as I'm concerned that's credit for RDM and Roman's wallet.

Do you realise that most of other club's fans are envious of our transfer business. It's one of the best qualities of CFC. 

 

Yes, Salah and Cuadrado were a failure, but there was no chance for them to succeed since we almost played with the same players (and we did wonder why they looked so tired, but that's a different story I guess.)

We played the same players because the likes of Salah and Cuadrado weren't good enough.

We played the same players because the likes of Salah and Cuadrado weren't good enough.

And Salah, Cuadrado were bought because those better than them were sold

the poorest piece of business so far has been the acquisition of cuadrado and salah for a combined sum 30+ million, when we could have saved ourselves all the stress by being much smarter and buying alexis sanchez when we had the chance. how we ever missed out on him i do not know, especially when we were crying out for a right winger with a left foot who's also a goal threat. he was the absolute perfect player for that position and this team, with his work rate and goal threat. 

 

we could have had hazard - de bruyne/mata - sanchez as a 3 behind the striker, and hey even add aguero (and to go even further, neymar) to that mix and we would have had a ridiculously dangerous offensive line. oh well...one can look back and dream of what could have been. 

 

I would add Douglas Costa who was just begging us to sign him and we went ahead and signed Cuadrado instead. What went wrong there? Costa is just lighting it up for Bayern right now.

Following the debacle over Frank Arnesen, There must be some strategy at Chelsea, created by the Board, approved by the owner and handed down to the persons with responsibility for the individual tasks and Emanalo seems to have the player recruitment hat.

Therefore he simply MUST be at fault.

 

As I have previously posted elsewhere on this site, to have made as many poor né SHOCKING signings as we have, since his arrival in 2007, coupled with the continued signing, stock-piling and loaning of almost £100m of Europe and South America's top teenage talent, then to let them go on free's or for small fees without ever really being given a chance let alone seeing sight of a first team berth is a pure dereliction of duty.

 

Be in no doubt, if José really believed that a kid in the under 21's or under 18's really was the next Messi or Ronaldo, he would be in the team. Mourinho knows as do we that the conveyor belt of players from the Academy, with the very rare exception is just not good enough.

 

That is why Emanalo needs to go!!

 

Then the Board should hold a complete review of its strategy and make the changes necessary to the recruitment policy and at risk of agreeing with Nibs, go and poach the entire Southampton Scouting team (those that did not go to Spuds)

Do you realise that most of other club's fans are envious of our transfer business. It's one of the best qualities of CFC.

Yes, Salah and Cuadrado were a failure, but there was no chance for them to succeed since we almost played with the same players (and we did wonder why they looked so tired, but that's a different story I guess.)

Dunno why they would be envious; we sold mata, de bruyne and lukaku, all of whom could have still been here now, and would have been very useful. We sold luiz for 50 million but that was probably the only real bit of good business we did. However, we wasted the luiz money on cack, even the costa and fabregas buys are looking dubious now with the way they're underperforming.

Blame the guy that signed Lukaku, Hazard, De Bruyne, Courtois, Azpilicueta because of Mourinho's incompetency.

With Eva and Emenalo gone we're quickly running out of scapegoats.

Yeah cause it's that f**king simple isn't it? Honest getting fed up of these idiots who only look at the half of the picture that they want to see.

Conveniently forgets people like Marin, Caudadro, Salah etc

Edited November 11, 201510 yr by Bobbywoodhogan

Dunno why they would be envious; we sold mata, de bruyne and lukaku, all of whom could have still been here now, and would have been very useful. We sold luiz for 50 million but that was probably the only real bit of good business we did. However, we wasted the luiz money on cack, even the costa and fabregas buys are looking dubious now with the way they're underperforming.

 

To be frank and I am glad, Mata has been mostly underwhelming at United. He has his qualities but we struggle to break down parked teams and I do not see Mata helping with that. Same goes for Lukaku who is excellent at counterattacking but pretty much useless apart from that. We get hardly 1-2 good counterattacking chances right now. KDB would be the one who looks like he got away. Again, I will put that down to his attitude as he wanted consistent playing time as a 20 year old without putting his head down and working for it. 

Again though let's remember how KDB was here, he didn't want to stay and fight, neither did Lukaku.

Every time I see him on the bench he rubs me the wrong way for some reason...

What does Emenalo have to do with the fact that virtually the same squad that won the league six months ago looks completely f**ked now?

 

I don't know what  his job at the club entails but I'm fairly sure it doesn't involve training players and motivating the squad. Stop looking for scapegoats, we all know whose fault that is.