For those who have attended the home games, what has the atmosphere been like? I heard it was pretty hostile when Jose first left. Is that still the case? Has the crowd been an enthusiastic and supportive "12th man"?

Edited March 7, 201610 yr by offside

So you believe rock solid to be "well over the top" in terms of describing our away form under Hiddink but you would instead choose to describe it as "very good" ?

 

I'm confused.

Well I would see rock solid as winning every game and not struggling in games like Watford and Norwich

Wednesday night is defining for Guus.

I'd say Saturday against Everton is the bigger test. We're expected to lose on Wednesday, but losing on Saturday would be a major disappointment.

Well I would see rock solid as winning every game and not struggling in games like Watford and Norwich

Winning every game?! By that measure no team has been rock solid, neither home nor away.

As your comment was about away form, since Guus took over we are first in away form.

I'm getting really annoyed by fans that complain no matter what our lads do. My father is like that. No matter how well I do, he always focuses on the negative. It's caused me to give up more than once since I figured that I'd never be good enough. Why can't you be more positive and supportive? Especially when it's become clear under Guus that they respond well to positive reinforcement and a supportive environment.

Ironically some of these hypercritical fans (not referring to you in particular) are the same ones that defended Jose when we were 1 point from relegation with half the season already played.

Edited March 7, 201610 yr by offside

For those who have attended the home games, what has the atmosphere been like? I heard it was pretty hostile when Jose first left. Is that still the case? Has the crowd been an enthusiastic and supportive "12th man"?

It has varied quite a lot. Against Everton or Manchester Utd I thought it was good, and I think it helped to get the draws. Against Newcastle or City it was good fun, and we sang just for the fun of it not to be the 12th man. Against Stoke the stands were very much like the team, there but not interested in the game. Only when Traore scored or when we increased the pace a bit we seemed to respond. Let's see tomorrow, we need to create a good atmosphere for the players.

Winning every game?! By that measure no team has been rock solid, neither home nor away.

As your comment was about away form, since Guus took over we are first in away form.

I'm getting really annoyed by fans that complain no matter what our lads do. My father is like that. No matter how well I do, he always focuses on the negative. It's caused me to give up more than once since I figured that I'd never be good enough. Why can't you be more positive and supportive? Especially when it's become clear under Guus that they respond well to positive reinforcement and a supportive environment.

Ironically some of these hypercritical fans (not referring to you in particular) are the same ones that defended Jose when we were 1 point from relegation with half the season already played.

Talk about Guus's home form then, it's been p*** poor.

It's not always being negative but realistic. Talking about Chelsea are third in the table or something like that then make it look like Chelsea would win the league if Hiddink was there from the beginning is laughable. I'm not saying you but some people write rubbish like that.

Being realistic is to know there are generally improvements in most teams when a manager gets sacked. That's not being negative on Hiddink but I expected Chelsea to improve when it was obvious to see the players wasn't playing for Mourinho. The only way was really up.

The funny thing is people on here seem to forget that the premier league has levelled out beyond imagination. I read the same reasoning on here as i do on the manchester united, arsenal or liverpool forums. "Our club is too great to be just third after Guus took over" "His substitutions are aweful, i can't see the master tactician at all". You should realise that if a relegation club like newcastle can buy a player like Wijnaldum, everyone is going to drop points against eachother since all the players are kind of equal skillwise. There are so many factors involved in a result and so many of them are down to chance. Reality is that Guus is performing amazingly right now, and with a little more luck would have performed the best out of all premier league clubs.

Edited March 8, 201610 yr by onkadonk

I'd say Saturday against Everton is the bigger test. We're expected to lose on Wednesday, but losing on Saturday would be a major disappointment.

I'm not expecting us to win at goodison, we don't have the best record there in recent seasons, so I think a draw would a good result. Hopefully go through in the replay.

For those who have attended the home games, what has the atmosphere been like? I heard it was pretty hostile when Jose first left. Is that still the case? Has the crowd been an enthusiastic and supportive "12th man"?

It's rarely anything other than average. It's only occasionally that the atmosphere is red hot, I find that saturday evening kick offs and sunday 4pms tend to be the best. I put it down to more time for people to get the beers in beforehand. This season has been understandably abject from an atmosphere perspective. If you want to feel some intensity you are better going to away games as part of the travelling support. 

 

this is not a chelsea specific issue. whenever we travel to away grounds, their atmosphere is piss weak and its the chelsea fans causing carnage. The famous anfield atmosphere is a myth, its never anything other than mediocre. Old trafford, the etihad, the library, white hart lane.. etc etc.

 

chelsea away support is generally more vocal. 

Fair play to Guus coming in and getting the best back out of Costa and Cesc while keeping us safe from relegation.

Other than that though I won't really miss him, he's just a safe pair of hands if we want mid table medocrity IMO.

He had Lampard, Drogba and co last time. I feel that helped him more than we thought previously.

Can't wait till this disaster of a season is finally over

Agreed Chelsbear roll on next season

I'm bored of seeing interim appointments at Chelsea, really hope Guus is the last one we see for a long time.

I'm bored of seeing interim appointments at Chelsea, really hope Guus is the last one we see for a long time.

 

Agreed. Also need to stop this bollocks with the board signing players.

 

Get a manager in, let him build the team he needs and let him get on with it.

Agreed Chelsbear roll on next season

I really hope we get off to a good start next season. Never have the first 5 games seemed so important. If we drop too many points in those games there will be a lot of negativity from the fans

Considering the constraints that have been placed on Hiddink this season he's done a reasonable job and I've always liked him as a manager and as a  person so the transition from the post-Mourinho era to having him as our temporary manager makes things a little easier.

 

However, we shouldn't inflate Hiddink's record either. While things under him have stabilised and calm down it's clearly evident that he's managing this team for the sole purpose of stabilising rather than being bold and taking risks along the way and with the lack of pressure and scrutiny he was always going to feel safe and comfortable in the role.

 

I think Hiddink will have realised that this team is a basket case in comparison to the one he managed in 2009 and that it wasn't just merely underperforming because of the previous manager but because they simply are not good enough quality wise and mentally they're weak for the standards that we expect for a club of our nature.

 

I've heard rumours of Hiddink staying beyond this season but in a behind the scenes role. I actually wouldn't mind this if it came to fruition because he's an intelligent football mind and at least he understands the difficulties and requirements to be a good manager unlike others in higher positions.

 

All in all things have been decent under him and we may win the FA Cup if we're lucky but there's not really much to boast about here. I know some supporters thought that everything would simply go back to normal and we would magically recapture our form from last season as soon as Mourinho was sacked.

 

I think the board may have expected that to happen as well especially with the way Emenalo spoke on ChelseaTV on the day Mourinho was sacked but quite simply Guus' realistic role was to stabilise everything. Nothing more, nothing less considering the season was practically shot already.

Considering the Dire position Jose left the club, Guus has done well. You can't expect him to come in and fix all of Jose's stuff ups. 

Considering the Dire position Jose left the club, Guus has done well. You can't expect him to come in and fix all of Jose's stuff ups.

Talking crap. Mourinhos thought for winning the league and league cup? What about Costa's stuff up with 4 goals in 20 games?

Talking crap. Mourinhos thought for winning the league and league cup? What about Costa's stuff up with 4 goals in 20 games?

And the rest of the squads poor form excluding willian? Face it he lost the whole dressing room

Talking crap. Mourinhos thought for winning the league and league cup? What about Costa's stuff up with 4 goals in 20 games?

 

 

Must be Mourinho's fault that Costa came back overweight from the off-season and underperformed as a result.

Must be Mourinho's fault that Costa came back overweight from the off-season and underperformed as a result.

No it's just Jose's fault we won't be in the cl.

No it's just Jose's fault we won't be in the cl.

No it's everybody's fault from the board, players and coaching staff that we're in this position so it's a collective failure as I've said on other threads.

 

Merely blaming Jose for everything and leaving everyone else unscrutinised is ridiculously short-sighted and borders on someone who blindly trusts the yes-men of the club who sprout crap about Jose being the cause of all these problems.

 

That's why supporters were furious when they saw Michael Emenalo on ChelseaTV (someone who contributed to this downfall) sprouting the nonsense he did about the state of the club when Jose was sacked in December and essentially absolving himself and the board of any blame and only partially blaming the players for this downfall.

 

No wonder why the club is in this mess with that mentality that Emenalo and others around the club have developed.

No it's everybody's fault from the board, players and coaching staff that we're in this position so it's a collective failure as I've said on other threads.

Merely blaming Jose for everything and leaving everyone else unscrutinised is ridiculously short-sighted and borders on someone who blindly trusts the yes-men of the club who sprout crap about Jose being the cause of all these problems.

That's why supporters were furious when they saw Michael Emenalo on ChelseaTV (someone who contributed to this downfall) sprouting the nonsense he did about the state of the club when Jose was sacked in December and essentially absolving himself and the board of any blame and only partially blaming the players for this downfall.

No wonder why the club is in this mess with that mentality that Emenalo and others around the club have developed.

Nope its mostly Jose's fault we were 16th after 16 games. That's the mess he left us in. Below the clubs who can't even spend more than 5m in the market.

What Emanalo said was correct no? Manager fell out with the squad to the extreme where we sack one manager or 15 players. We can't sack 15 players every 3 years when the manger loses the plot.

Edited March 10, 201610 yr by KonaKai Blue

Nope its mostly Jose's fault we were 16th after 16 games. That's the mess he left us in. Below the clubs who can't even spend more than 5m in the market.

Now it's MOSTLY Jose's fault! Before you said it was JUST Jose's fault. Make up your mind.

 

Let's face it! Everyone within the club is to blame for this disaster. Merely absolving everyone else of blame and criticism will mean we won't learn our lesson from this.

Now it's MOSTLY Jose's fault! Before you said it was JUST Jose's fault. Make up your mind.

Let's face it! Everyone within the club is to blame for this disaster. Merely absolving everyone else of blame and criticism will mean we won't learn our lesson from this.

Mostly Just whatever, it's his fault. I'll say it again. 16 games 16th place.

Jezz I don't want a manager that relies on market purchases to succeed.

Edited March 10, 201610 yr by KonaKai Blue