Only De Gea, Shaw (injured), and Martial. Rest is rubbish in my opinion. Maybe Mata when he performs.

I like Blind and Smalling as well, but they definitely don't have a better squad than us

They won't have the luxury of putting faith in inexperienced academy graduates due to the "win all your games NOW or you'll be out in a few weeks" mandate.

 

 

There isn't a  "win all your games NOW or you'll be out in a few weeks" mandate, Jose was sacked because Chelsea was at risk of being relegated, hat is a very different standard.

 

My guess is that there really isn't a #1 candidate, that the board can't make up its mind and switches back and forth. The glaring lack of football management expertise on the board surely isn't helping.

The list of decision makers in an earlier post, if accurate, sends a clear message that the board is weighing financial competence more heavily than football sophistication. I think they'd rather have a financially savvy manager who plays boring football than a financially unsophisticated manager who plays exciting and innovative football.

 

So you think the board is incompetent from your guess? No one on this forum have any idea what the board are saying, they may have already picked a new manager but not announced it.

According to the Sunday Times, Emenalo is pushing for Pellegrini to be appointed.

 

Has to be taken with a truckload of salt but if we are actually looking to appoint City's cast-offs and someone who may well be viewed as a placeholder then that says a lot about what our ambitions are next season. 

 

For me, Simeone is a statement of intent that you want to contend for the league. Conte or Allegri are also in that frame but I think you'd be looking at them to be innovative and work with slightly smaller budgets to get the job done. Then there's Pellegrini which along with someone like Benitez or Rodgers is simply us giving up on the title and looking to get Champions League qualification at best.

Wish there was an official club poll on who the fans would like to see as our next manager (there won't be) just so they can get some sort of idea of what we think (not that they give a sh.t)

Just thinking, do you reckon anyone at Chelsea, pr, marketing, the suits or even Romans advisors follow any fans forums like this to get any idea of what we think?

Edited February 21, 201610 yr by Kev56

I take it that after today's game the clamor to see Pellegrini to be out manager is going to quieten ? 

According to the Sunday Times, Emenalo is pushing for Pellegrini to be appointed.

Has to be taken with a truckload of salt but if we are actually looking to appoint City's cast-offs and someone who may well be viewed as a placeholder then that says a lot about what our ambitions are next season.

For me, Simeone is a statement of intent that you want to contend for the league. Conte or Allegri are also in that frame but I think you'd be looking at them to be innovative and work with slightly smaller budgets to get the job done. Then there's Pellegrini which along with someone like Benitez or Rodgers is simply us giving up on the title and looking to get Champions League qualification at best.

Pellegrini is the easiest and safest bet, which Emenalo is likely to support.

A shame emenalo owns Chelsea...

There isn't a  "win all your games NOW or you'll be out in a few weeks" mandate, Jose was sacked because Chelsea was at risk of being relegated, hat is a very different standard.

 

 

AvB was sacked whilst still in 4th place despite being given the mandate to rebuild the team Ancelotti was sacked despite the team playing the best football Chelsea have ever played and scoring a record number of goals the year before. The need for Chelsea to win at all costs is the prevailing requirement for a Chelsea Manager. You only need to look at the ages and value of the players Chelsea have sold in the past few years to realise we are running the club in an unsustainable manner.

AvB was sacked whilst still in 4th place despite being given the mandate to rebuild the team Ancelotti was sacked despite the team playing the best football Chelsea have ever played and scoring a record number of goals the year before. 

 

Roman clearly didn't want to sack AVB, didn't the papers say he was fourious with players after AVB was sacked?

 

Roman has clearly changed though, he allowed Jose to fail for quite a while, he only sacked Jose when we were only 1 point off relegation. 

According to the Sunday Times, Emenalo is pushing for Pellegrini to be appointed.

 

Has to be taken with a truckload of salt but if we are actually looking to appoint City's cast-offs and someone who may well be viewed as a placeholder then that says a lot about what our ambitions are next season. 

 

Wouldn't surprise me if this was the case. Pellegrini is the most compliant candidate out there and would do just as he's told. 

 

The last thing Emenalo would want is a manager who knows what they're doing as this would expose him for the charlatan he is.

 

Let's hope that Abramovich doesn't fall for Emenalo's self-serving routine. 

 

The last thing Emenalo would want is a manager who knows what they're doing as this would expose him for the charlatan he is.

 

Let's hope that Abramovich doesn't fall for Emenalo's self-serving routine. 

 

Grow up, you Jose fanboys are being pathetic. All this hate aimed at Emenalo because he was chosen to do an interview. What evidence do you have to say Emenalo is a charlatan?

 

Chelsea was one point above relegation because of Jose, you have to accept that he failed and had to go. 

Grow up, you Jose fanboys are being pathetic. All this hate aimed at Emenalo because he was chosen to do an interview. What evidence do you have to say Emenalo is a charlatan?

 

Chelsea was one point above relegation because of Jose, you have to accept that he failed and had to go.

Big Jose fan then lol

Chelsea was one point above relegation because of Jose, you have to accept that he failed and had to go.

One of the big reasons why he failed was lack of summer signings. He warned board that team needs new players but all he got was Falcao, Baba and Pedro (a panic signing).

One of the big reasons why he failed was lack of summer signings. He warned board that team needs new players but all he got was Falcao, Baba and Pedro (a panic signing).

Wrong, Jose brought in many new players, and off loaded many. Since Jose joined we have almost an entirely new squad. If the squad he built fell apart after 2 seasons that is Jose's fault not the clubs. 

 

Falcao was Jose's signing

 

Baba has been demonstrating he is a good defender, he didn't get games at Chelsea because Jose was pissy Chelsea didn't bid 50mil on Stones, a defender who has been a genuinely shocking defender.  Baba has been in the bundesliga team of the week a few times apparently. 

 

Pedro has shown his class over many years at Barca, multiple clubs including utd were after him, he is a quality player. Unfortunately for him he chose a disastrous time to join Chelsea. 

 

It seems Jose wanted Pogba, well clearly Pogba has no intention of leaving Juventus this season. He also wanted Stones, Everton were refusing to even consider selling him to us. If those were the players Jose wanted, it's not the boards fault, Jose should have more realistic options. Especially when you consider how much the club allowed Jose to spend in the first two seasons. 

Wrong, Jose brought in many new players, and off loaded many. Since Jose joined we have almost an entirely new squad. If the squad he built fell apart after 2 seasons that is Jose's fault not the clubs.

Falcao was Jose's signing

Baba has been demonstrating he is a good defender, he didn't get games at Chelsea because Jose was pissy Chelsea didn't bid 50mil on Stones, a defender who has been a genuinely shocking defender. Baba has been in the bundesliga team of the week a few times apparently.

Pedro has shown his class over many years at Barca, multiple clubs including utd were after him, he is a quality player. Unfortunately for him he chose a disastrous time to join Chelsea.

It seems Jose wanted Pogba, well clearly Pogba has no intention of leaving Juventus this season. He also wanted Stones, Everton were refusing to even consider selling him to us. If those were the players Jose wanted, it's not the boards fault, Jose should have more realistic options. Especially when you consider how much the club allowed Jose to spend in the first two seasons.

he also wanted Koke, teixeira, and griezmann. And no that is not just a rumor.

I think Falcao was more like a plan B.

When Jose is at Manchester United I bet he will try to sign Griezmann, Stones, and Pogba.

he also wanted Koke, teixeira, and griezmann. And no that is not just a rumor.

I think Falcao was more like a plan B.

When Jose is at Manchester United I bet he will try to sign Griezmann, Stones, and Pogba.

 

Koke made it clear he didn't want to leave.

Teixeira, my memory must be poor, I don't remember us being linked with him before the season. 

Griezman,  Atletico are in a much better position nowdays, stealing star players from them will be much harder now.  

Edited February 22, 201610 yr by kiwi1691

Koke made it clear he didn't want to leave.

Teixeira, my memory must be poor, I don't remember us being linked with him before the season.

Griezman, Atletico are in a much better position nowdays, stealing star players from them will be much harder now.

Costa was a "star player" at Atletico too. They were in much better position than Chelsea when Jose bought Costa and Luis from them.

Costa was a "star player" at Atletico too. They were in much better position than Chelsea when Jose bought Costa and Luis from them.

 

As I said, they are in a better financial position thanks to investment from China, making it harder to take players off of them.

One of the big reasons why he failed was lack of summer signings. He warned board that team needs new players but all he got was Falcao, Baba and Pedro (a panic signing).

It shouldnt have mattered if we didnt sign a single player, we just won the league.No way we should have dropped so sharply , but Jose blew the place apart for a reason we may never know.

Edited February 22, 201610 yr by chef

Grow up, you Jose fanboys are being pathetic. All this hate aimed at Emenalo because he was chosen to do an interview. What evidence do you have to say Emenalo is a charlatan?

 

Chelsea was one point above relegation because of Jose, you have to accept that he failed and had to go. 

 

The 'hate' for Emenalo isn't based on an interview, so I'm not sure what's given you that opinion. Also I think it's a little unfair to call people 'Jose fanboys' when they might simply be Chelsea supporters who want experienced, qualified people running their club. There really isn't a need for the childish internet insults now is there?

 

 

It shouldnt have mattered if we didnt sign a single player, we just won the league.No way we should have dropped so sharply , but Jose blew the place apart for a reason we may never know.

 

On paper that is absolutely true but it was clear from January onwards that we were lacking players in key positions. If that wasn't obvious in our downturn in performances in the league then it was blindingly obvious in the two legs against PSG.

 

No the downturn shouldn't have been so sharp but there was always going to be a downturn of some type and it's not always something you can manage.

 

If those were the players Jose wanted, it's not the boards fault, Jose should have more realistic options. Especially when you consider how much the club allowed Jose to spend in the first two seasons. 

 

The issue is that when we didn't get those players, the back-ups simply weren't good enough. Fair enough you miss out on John Stones (with some inept negotiations thrown in), is the best back-up really Papy? The squad was weakened last summer and I've not seen anyone dispute that, so what are the expectations that you're setting for the squad? 

 

As for the amount of money he was allowed to spend, in NET terms it really wasn't as much as you'd think because he always had to sell to buy. Over the last two seasons we've had a net spend of £14 million which is surprisingly low would't you say?

Grow up, you Jose fanboys are being pathetic. All this hate aimed at Emenalo because he was chosen to do an interview. What evidence do you have to say Emenalo is a charlatan?

 

Chelsea was one point above relegation because of Jose, you have to accept that he failed and had to go. 

 

I'm a huge José fanboy and I don't hate Emenalo at all.

I'm a huge José fanboy and I don't hate Emenalo at all.

 

That's fine, there is nothing wrong with respecting Jose. It is just Idiotic that after the interview, people started spewing all this hate at  Emenalo. Proclaiming him to be evil, incompetent and a yes man. The  Emenalo haters have no actual real evidence to show how he is supposedly incompetent/a yes man. I respect Jose for what he has done for the club he is the clubs most successful manager.  The people so blindly loyal to Jose that the demand Emenalo be sacked, to be frank piss me off. 

 

The 'hate' for Emenalo isn't based on an interview, so I'm not sure what's given you that opinion. Also I think it's a little unfair to call people 'Jose fanboys' when they might simply be Chelsea supporters who want experienced, qualified people running their club. There really isn't a need for the childish internet insults now is there?

 

 

Except almost all the hate directed at Emenalo conveniently started only after the interview, people like claim he is incompetent based on nothing. 

 

 

The issue is that when we didn't get those players, the back-ups simply weren't good enough. Fair enough you miss out on John Stones (with some inept negotiations thrown in), is the best back-up really Papy? The squad was weakened last summer and I've not seen anyone dispute that, so what are the expectations that you're setting for the squad? 

 

As for the amount of money he was allowed to spend, in NET terms it really wasn't as much as you'd think because he always had to sell to buy. Over the last two seasons we've had a net spend of £14 million which is surprisingly low would't you say?

 

 

Firstly stop talking about net spend you sound like a gooner with the net spend talk. As I have said our net spend is low because Jose sold good players. Most teams sell their crap players, Jose happily sold players who were good enough to be first team players in any other English team. 

 

You say the backups weren't good enough yet Papy is playing well, since he found a manager prepared to play him. 

 

 

 

 

** bugger the forum stuffed up my post** 

That's fine, there is nothing wrong with respecting Jose. It is just Idiotic that after the interview, people started spewing all this hate at  Emenalo. Proclaiming him to be evil, incompetent and a yes man. The  Emenalo haters have no actual real evidence to show how he is supposedly incompetent/a yes man. I respect Jose for what he has done for the club he is the clubs most successful manager.  The people so blindly loyal to Jose that the demand Emenalo be sacked, to be frank piss me off. 

 

 

Except almost all the hate directed at Emenalo conveniently started only after the interview, people like claim he is incompetent based on nothing. 

 

 

This is just incorrect but maybe it's just an honest mistake and you simply aren't aware that Emenalo has been a 'divisive' figure for a long-time now. Some of that is because he was seen as Grant's boy and was never really trusted, but go back to Wilkins sacking and it starts there. Then when he's promoted to Technical Director it's there.

 

To say it started after an interview a few weeks ago is just wrong.

 

 

Firstly stop talking about net spend you sound like a gooner with the net spend talk. As I have said our net spend is low because Jose sold good players. Most teams sell their crap players, Jose happily sold players who were good enough to be first team players in any other English team. 

 

You say the backups weren't good enough yet Papy is playing well, since he found a manager prepared to play him. 

 

 

But the point is that net spend is about the amount of new money put into the squad, and we're talking about improving the squad. Yes you can improve the squad by selling assets who weren't needed and replacing them with ones who were, but that only works for a while. Eventually all clubs need new capital investment don't they?

 

If you don't think that then that's fine. If you think our squad was improved last summer then that's fine. But simply saying you don't want to hear about net spend because it makes someone sound like a gooner isn't really addressing the issue is it? 

@ kiwi1691

First you defend Emenalo with saying that nobody on here knows what's actually going on behind the scenes and that we are only blaming him for that interview (which is false). But at the same time you claim to know Falcao was a Mourinho signing, and that Mourinho only wanted to strengthen the squad with Stones and Pogba. Pato is a same type of signing as Falcao, so is he also a Mourinho signing?

So what is it, do you work for Chelsea? 

You also only blame Mourinho 100% for the season's failure like he's playing on the pitch, but let's talk about facts and no speculation.

- It was already clear that our squad needed strengthening back in January, do you remember the 5-2 thrashing at the Lane on Jan 1 ? Yet we did nothing in January to strengthen, and in the summer we only lost quality instead of gaining quality to push further in the CL and try to defend the title. Is it Jose's mistake that the club lack ambition to improve further?

- We lost massive experience and leadership in Cech, Drogba and Luis and only improved with a panic buy in Pedro, a player that comes that late always need time to adapt to a new league. The same goes for Baba. Was it Abramovic who let Cech go to Arsenal to strengthen a direct rival or was it Jose's decision? 

- Pat Nevin, a person that actually has a connection with the club, claimed that Jose wanted to strengthen the squad and had 6 targets on mind but got none of his targets. We know 3 of them: Marquinhos, Stones and Pogba. 3 are unnamed. Is it also Jose's mistake that he got 0 of his 6 targets ? 

- The players came back overweight, Diego admitted this himself and we also saw the pictures on Dailymail. Cesc, Hazard (as always), Ivanovic, Diego Costa were clearly not in shape while being paid millions a year. Is this also the fault of Mourinho?

- Our best defender in JT is simply aging. Is it also Jose's mistake that JT is aging and that he got Djilobodji to succeed our captain? 

- The club planned a post season tour for commercial reasons knowing that the season starts 1 week earlier than normal, that makes 2 weeks lesser training and getting fit for the players. Is this is also Jose's mistake? 

This season's start was a collective failure from the club, manager and players, not only 100% Jose's fault. 

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