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Italy get an additional 2 guaranteed champions league places... What exactly have they done to deserve this? Big teams at smaller leagues miss out so we can have more terrible Italian sides getting in and failing to make it past the group stages, making the competition even more boring.

 

Prize money and seeding is getting more based off of 'historical' criteria which means more money for the big clubs, less money going into smaller leagues.

 

This seems like it'll just entrench the same old 'Barcelona, Bayern, Real Madrid, Other' semi finals that have been killing this competition 

The latest move by Uefa should be considered a threat to our own league. The amount of money English/Welsh clubs get from playing EPL football eclipses what a club gets in Europe from Uefa.

 

I think Uefa hate the Premier League clubs grabbing all the billions of £ in TV money. They see it as competition and would dearly love to have it's worldwide popularity. It won't be long before Chinese clubs are shoehorned in, and probably Middle Eastern clubs in countries like Qatar and Bahrain.

 

Long live the English Premier League.

Yep, all the top teams outside of England are going to push for a super league (it will be sh*t!)

Teams at the bottom of our league got more money from tv revenue than Real Madrid did last year!

It's only going to get worse Bobby.

Overseas glamour games (that don't happen like China this summer), bigger fee's the whole lot.

Football is now mainly about money, long gone are the days passion, desire and hard work were the building blocks of a successful club.

Don't get me wrong I'll always follow my club till the day I die but it's becoming a hollow experience for some I'd imagine/

Yeah it definitely is for me

Next step european super league, wont that be a delight.

If that comes in to play I'm done

The latest move by Uefa should be considered a threat to our own league. The amount of money English/Welsh clubs get from playing EPL football eclipses what a club gets in Europe from Uefa.

 

I think Uefa hate the Premier League clubs grabbing all the billions of £ in TV money. They see it as competition and would dearly love to have it's worldwide popularity. It won't be long before Chinese clubs are shoehorned in, and probably Middle Eastern clubs in countries like Qatar and Bahrain.

 

Long live the English Premier League.

 

Is there where we salute and sign Jerusalem?

The Bravo situation is pretty surprising.

I'm surprised that Guardiola was so keen to bring Bravo to Manchester City. He has moments of brilliance and amazing saves, but he also has streaks of complete sh*tness that will singlehandedly lose games.

I'm equally surprised that Bravo is going there. I was sure he'd never leave La Liga. I think he's going to have a major adjustment with the culture, language, and game.

Finally I'm surprised that Cillessen is going to Barcelona. He's okay but nothing special. He's prone to confidence problems and is a sensitive soul. The upside is that that he's one of the most likable Dutch players; the Dutch produce an awful lot of overconfident arrogant inconsiderate pricks. But it's worrying for a team expected to always win. He also has literally never really saved a penalty in his career. He finally saved his first one last year but it went in on rebound!

Cillissen isn't an overconfident, inconsiderate, arrogant prick? Not sure you're right on that to be honest.

Cillissen isn't an overconfident, inconsiderate, arrogant prick? Not sure you're right on that to be honest.

 

Was he in goal for their recent qualifier for Champions League group stages? I was watching because Traore was playing and I was thinking Ajax keeper was actually pretty poor in that game. May have been someone else though I guess.

Was he in goal for their recent qualifier for Champions League group stages? I was watching because Traore was playing and I was thinking Ajax keeper was actually pretty poor in that game. May have been someone else though I guess.

Against Rostov? I didn't see the game but I'm pretty sure that was him. I read he would play that game and then fly over to barca to compleet his transfer. I never liked him, not a good goalkeeper in my opinion, and on top of that he's an arrogant twat.

Against Rostov? I didn't see the game but I'm pretty sure that was him. I read he would play that game and then fly over to barca to compleet his transfer. I never liked him, not a good goalkeeper in my opinion, and on top of that he's an arrogant twat.

 

So you're saying you're a fan?

:laugh2: He puts Claude to shame!

I admit he was class but watching some fan reactions these days, A part of me thinks they try to hype it in a hope that their video can go viral, Claude became famous because he was out and out class, Fan reaction channels were not so regular 3/4 years ago when that crazy sob was losing the plot.

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I admit he was class but watching some fan reactions these days, A part of me thinks they try to hype it in a hope that their video can go viral, Claude became famous because he was out and out class, Fan reaction channels were not so regular 3/4 years ago when that crazy sob was losing the plot.

 

What about the Pirate twat who was saying Cech is a pussy for wearing a helmet after having his skull crushed. I can't stand that gooner, should go back to scrubbing decks on Captain Birdseye's fleet.

I completely agree, he's an innovator and quite possibly a genius who has been responsible for some of the best football I have ever seen in my life.

 

I can understand a certain level of rivalrous irritation based on his history with Barca, but genuine hatred seems completely excessive.

 

 

My only negative of him is he always choses the path of least resistance. At Barca he gave them a changed format but he was managing a high percentage of footballing Gods. The odds in his favour to succeed were high. Likewise at Bayern, in an even more uneven league. And at City, with the caveat that they have still to win the biggest prize and ultimately, at that club, that is how he will be judged. Win the CL or he will be deemed a flop.

 

I would like to see him to do a Jose with Porto or us. Take a team that wasn't achieving their potential and take them past it.

Cillissen isn't an overconfident, inconsiderate, arrogant prick? Not sure you're right on that to be honest.

I don't follow him super closely, but he's never given me the impression that he's an overconfident inconsiderate arrogant prick the way plenty of other Dutch players have. I was in a serious long term relationship with a Dutch guy, so I know that Dutch culture in general is blunt and comes across to us as rude.

What makes you think that about Cillessen?

My only negative of him is he always choses the path of least resistance. At Barca he gave them a changed format but he was managing a high percentage of footballing Gods. The odds in his favour to succeed were high. Likewise at Bayern, in an even more uneven league. And at City, with the caveat that they have still to win the biggest prize and ultimately, at that club, that is how he will be judged. Win the CL or he will be deemed a flop.

 

I would like to see him to do a Jose with Porto or us. Take a team that wasn't achieving their potential and take them past it.

 

Ultimately the best managers will always go to the best clubs. Why should Ancelotti, Emery and Mourinho be criticised for not taking (for example) the Everton job? They have nothing to prove to anyone. In a similar vein, do you think Benitez is worthy of praise for taking on the masochistic challenge which is the Newcastle job?

 

When he took the Barca job, he inherited a side which had finished third in the previous season, gutted it of its most listless elements, and remoulded it into an unstoppable force which won everything and did so in style. He took the world's top prospect, doubled his goal tally, and made him one of the best players in the history of the sport. He did all this in the space of a year.

 

Guardiola has set the bar impossibly high for himself - how on earth can he top what he achieved at Barcelona? He created one of the greatest club sides the world has ever seen. In all honesty, I think the reason that he gets these sorts of 'path of least resistance' criticisms is that it is simply the only way people can esteem him to have bettered his past achievements - basically by doing the exact same thing again at a worse club.

 

I also don't think the Man City job is going to be an easy ride at all. They were a mess last season, haven't mounted a serious title challenge in two years, and have never achieved anything of note in the Champions League. I can imagine Guardiola watching Pellegrini's Man City operating off the ball last season and crying into his cerveza. This challenge is only made more difficult by the presence of the old spoiler José spending unprecedented amounts of money across the city, fiery Antonio in charge of an unpredictable Chelsea side, Pochettino at a young, talented Tottenham side, as well as Klopp and Wenger in the mix. If he wins the league that would be a pretty impressive achievement; if he wins the Champions League it would be outrageous - the City side he inherited would struggle to get into the top 10 sides in Europe.

 

If he wanted a side where he could piss the league and concentrate on making a Champions League run, he would have just taken the PSG job!

Ultimately the best managers will always go to the best clubs.

 

But City aren't one of the best clubs, not even the best club in England, not for over two years now.

But City aren't one of the best clubs, not even the best club in England, not for over two years now.

 

Which surely suggests that Guardiola hasn't gone for the path of least resistance?

Which surely suggests that Guardiola hasn't gone for the path of least resistance?

 

I agree, he's gone for the path with sh*t loads of money on it, both in wages and transfer funds.  And it's his biggest test by far in his career. So the jury remains out, for now.

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