If he does go and i hope not as i want the whole situation sorted, then who is there for the remainder of the season?

My vote is JOHN HOLLINS. Quality manager (ask Wisey to be assistant...lol). He is working within the club. Plaster the walls of the luxury changing rooms with pictures of JH, Dixon, Nevin, Rougvie, Eddie, Speedie, Pates, Droy, Chopper, Osgood, etc etc and show the current bunch real men who fought for the shirt. Teach them the meaning of the badge, the club, the history (yes we do have one).

Maybe it is the usual. The manager gets no say and is asked not to divulge info to the press. (contract clauses!!)

FFS CHELSEA get it sorted

At the moment it's Conte In.

We're back in the UEFA champions league because of him. We're still Top 4 and will likely remain there till the end of the season. I also believe our new signings will help make a difference in performance overall.

If we don't finish this season top 4 or at least beat Barcelona ... Then it'll be fair to say Conte out. Just not at the moment.

 

Conte should absolutely stay. 

No one should even be looking at the Bouremouth match as any indicator of Chelsea's current state.

We had no recognized striker, no recognized CB, and our best playmaker was coming off injury and didn't start the match.

In addition, our next best player after Hazard, Willian, was out.

Can't forget we have been playing every 3 days, including 3 matches in the last 7 days and Bournemouth was coming off an 11 day break.

Until Cahill took over at CB we were still ok even. Not sure why Cahill is the one that plays central, maybe Ampadu should have come in. 

How did we get in this position....

 

Same story as always - Chelsea board dragging their feet in the summer while rivals strengthen. A one in and one out policy when we needed more depth at every position was never going to help Conte. 

Edited February 1, 20188 yr by Saaladin

5 hours ago, Famous CFC said:

Real are a little different to us. There extremely strict on what a manager most win each year. Have a few Real coaches been dropped after winning a league title? Chelsea amongst the top teams in England are a joke for the way managers have come and gone. If there not good enough, fair play. But some sackings have been a a little harsh to say the least. Maybe Roman needs to lower his expectations. There can only ever be one champion a season. And now the EPL, as it has been for a good few years, is very tough to win. And, it's only getting tougher. The Arsenal board have been absolute stars the way they've treat Arsene. Imagine how long he'd have lasted at Chelsea. 

So why are we a joke in England then? Is it as Spurs are a joke for the way they change their managers?

I  ask because they've had more managers than us in same time period or is it maybe the perspective the media tunnels your vision towards?

Conte in, and Ken Bates and Colin Hutchison in to get the players he wants in and to teach our board how to do transfer business.

I want him to stay. Stop spending money on players others don’t want and pay more for ones they want to keep. In the long run it wont lead to people saying “why did we buy him?” If we look at current squad. How many out on loan or in the squad that have cost big money are just squad players or not good enough!

3 minutes ago, Richard P said:

How many out on loan or in the squad that have cost big money are just squad players or not good enough!

Enough to pay for a new stadium.

If Conte is pushed out or leaves on his own accord, I think I will finally stop being so passionate about this club. To think I finally made it to Stamford Bridge after following the team for 17 years last year.The board has their own agenda and do not back the manager. Somebody put it aptly that they expect a Ferrari for the cost of a Hyundai. It is fine being prudent with the stadium cost but at least be a little intelligent in it rather than saving pennies and nickels. There is no long term thinking at this club. I will still watch the games but my passion will definitely wane. To me, Conte is the best we can do right now. All the people looking for flavor of the month (Enrique, etc. ) will be here saying the same thing about that guy next year. These people would have wanted to fire Pep after his failure last year. 

1 hour ago, abister1 said:

So why are we a joke in England then? Is it as Spurs are a joke for the way they change their managers?

I  ask because they've had more managers than us in same time period or is it maybe the perspective the media tunnels your vision towards?

For a club that's won the trophies it has, domestically and in Europe, it's been a bit of a joke how many manager have been shown the door. Tottenham haven't won anything of note. Poc still going strong at Spurs. I wonder how long Poc would have got before the chop at Chelsea. I remember Robbie D winning the CL and Fa Cup. We all know what happened after that. Opinions and all that. Chelsea run things their way. 

Edited February 1, 20188 yr by Famous CFC

38 minutes ago, Famous CFC said:

For a club that's won the trophies it has, domestically and in Europe, it's been a bit of a joke how many manager have been shown the door. Tottenham haven't won anything of note. Poc still going strong at Spurs. I wonder how long Poc would have got before the chop at Chelsea. I remember Robbie D winning the CL and Fa Cup. We all know what happened after that. Opinions and all that. Chelsea run things their way. 

What is it 12 trophies in 12 years?.. some joke that is.

41 minutes ago, Famous CFC said:

For a club that's won the trophies it has, domestically and in Europe, it's been a bit of a joke how many manager have been shown the door. Tottenham haven't won anything of note. Poc still going strong at Spurs. I wonder how long Poc would have got before the chop at Chelsea. I remember Robbie D winning the CL and Fa Cup. We all know what happened after that. Opinions and all that. Chelsea run things their way. 

Would you rather we stuck by managers after things are clearly broken? 

1 minute ago, coco said:

What is it 12 trophies in 12 years?.. some joke that is.

Exactly my point. The trophies that have been won, yet managers still getting the sack still. Imagine if Wenger won the Champions League, they'd make a statue of him outside the Emirates. Anyways. 

Grass is not always greener on the other side. Robbie for one shoulda been given more time for sure. 

10 hours ago, coco said:

What is it 12 trophies in 12 years?.. some joke that is.

Thanks Coco. People want managerial consistency and success. But the thing they fail to realise is consistent success means the manager is doing his job (winning and therefore remaining in-situ) or not doing his job (failing to win and being replaced by someone else who can), ..... rinse and repeat process. 

Now what they should be glad about is more times than not our board have gotten it right in terms of the next man in always steadied ship to an extent and maybe win the odd cup here or there. We've been fortunate with winning league titles several times.  Alex left Utd what 4 or 5 seasons ago and they're already on their 3rd manager. A man they swore to hate and despised so much and it is well recorded and open knowledge that one of their legends upstairs hates him passionately. That's who they turned to because of his serial winner rep. 

It's a bit funny to me every time I hear people go that route because though I never support sacking a manager or player on the basis of lack of time to deliver, I am never one to stand in the way of moving people on for non performance or to favour long term goals and plan. 

In a democratic set up as we have in the westernized world where far more is at stake than football and where we have long term planning considered in generational terms rather than as one would consider 5 - 10 years in football, the manager( prime minister/President) is generally given 4 or 5 year terms during within which they can even be sacked (impeached/leadership change) if things arent going well. 

11 hours ago, Famous CFC said:

For a club that's won the trophies it has, domestically and in Europe, it's been a bit of a joke how many manager have been shown the door. Tottenham haven't won anything of note. Poc still going strong at Spurs. I wonder how long Poc would have got before the chop at Chelsea. I remember Robbie D winning the CL and Fa Cup. We all know what happened after that. Opinions and all that. Chelsea run things their way. 

Fair point on Poc. Do you think they can do better than him at the moment? Once they think they can he gets the chop. He's taken them closest in years with a style previously unseen and as one of the upcoming managers in the game it will be foolish of them to get rid before he starts underachieving (or in another way status quo resumed as right now he has spurs overachieving on the money they are willing to spend)

RDM is a legend on these hallowed pages but I guarantee you, you'd be hard pressed to find 10% or even making it simpler for you 10 people who can hold up their hands with a straight face and say the CL and FA cup wins were his tactical genius on display.

He was given a chance which was the job full time and it was rightfully seen and correctly too, if I may add as a reward for what he "achieved". When the hammer fell there was disappointment but also a sense of acceptance of what most felt would be the natural outcome as the season went on.

50 minutes ago, abister1 said:

Thanks Coco. People want managerial consistency and success. But the thing they fail to realise is consistent success means the manager is doing his job (winning and therefore remaining in-situ) or not doing his job (failing to win and being replaced by someone else who can), ..... rinse and repeat process. 

Now what they should be glad about is more times than not our board have gotten it right in terms of the next man in always steadied ship to an extent and maybe win the odd cup here or there. We've been fortunate with winning league titles several times.  Alex left Utd what 4 or 5 seasons ago and they're already on their 3rd manager. A man they swore to hate and despised so much and it is well recorded and open knowledge that one of their legends upstairs hates him passionately. That's who they turned to because of his serial winner rep. 

It's a bit funny to me every time I hear people go that route because though I never support sacking a manager or player on the basis of lack of time to deliver, I am never one to stand in the way of moving people on for non performance or to favour long term goals and plan. 

In a democratic set up as we have in the westernized world where far more is at stake than football and where we have long term planning considered in generational terms rather than as one would consider 5 - 10 years in football, the manager( prime minister/President) is generally given 4 or 5 year terms during within which they can even be sacked (impeached/leadership change) if things arent going well. 

I think people have fallen into the trap of "It's what Chelsea do". Coach comes in, does well for a year - 18 months, things start slipping so he gets the boot and so the cycle continues. We've got very blase about it.

Sure, we can look back and that has worked. That by no means guarantees it will continue to work and I do fear, in the cat world, we have used up our 9 lives and we are now about to face reality and see what happens when you continually think it's a good idea to change the coach after not backing him and have no eye on a long-term plan. In the past we had the Insurance of a very good squad with the core of Cech, JT, Lamps, Drogs etc. Now we look like a side with little identity and not too many players who our rivals lust after.

I had faith in Conte, if he was backed, to guide us and build something for the seasons to come. I honestly think if the club gets this next appointment wrong - and I don' see too many worthy candidates out there, we are about to spend a good few seasons in the wilderness.

 

11 minutes ago, Nibs said:

I think people have fallen into the trap of "It's what Chelsea do". Coach comes in, does well for a year - 18 months, things start slipping so he gets the boot and so the cycle continues. We've got very blase about it.

Sure, we can look back and that has worked. That by no means guarantees it will continue to work and I do fear, in the cat world, we have used up our 9 lives and we are now about to face reality and see what happens when you continually think it's a good idea to change the coach after not backing him and have no eye on a long-term plan. In the past we had the Insurance of a very good squad with the core of Cech, JT, Lamps, Drogs etc. Now we look like a side with little identity and not too many players who our rivals lust after.

I had faith in Conte, if he was backed, to guide us and build something for the seasons to come. I honestly think if the club gets this next appointment wrong - and I don' see too many worthy candidates out there, we are about to spend a good few seasons in the wilderness.

 

There is no trap, Conte hasn't wanted to stay at Chelsea long term. Contract extension wasn't signed and some even thought he would leave last summer. It's never really felt long term from the start, it's just been constant moaning and no board will be happy with that.

I reckon more people have fallen into the trap it's all the boards fault that the football has been sh*t and so has Conte's tactics for at least a month now. Doesn't matter what players you have the way Chelsea have been playing is awful, people keep forgetting that for some reason.

2 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

There is no trap, Conte hasn't wanted to stay at Chelsea long term. Contract extension wasn't signed and some even thought he would leave last summer. It's never really felt long term from the start, it's just been constant moaning and no board will be happy with that.

I reckon more people have fallen into the trap it's all the boards fault that the football has been sh*t and so has Conte's tactics for at least a month now. Doesn't matter what players you have the way Chelsea have been playing is awful, people keep forgetting that for some reason.

The football wasn't "awful" last season when Conte had a good squad of players he was able to work with.

To achieve what he did last season was phenomenal but we all knew this season would be tougher - a LOT tougher, with the additional strain on the thin squad of European matches. The Board should have bent over backwards to give him the ammunition to go into this season but instead they expect our coach to work miracles. He's Conte not Paul f**king Daniels!

Still, those happy to back and trust the Board, fine. I wish I shared your faith - let's see where we go from here.

    

Since i've been going to the bridge we've gone through 30 managers   By the time i finish i reckon it'll be around 120

14 minutes ago, Nibs said:

The football wasn't "awful" last season when Conte had a good squad of players he was able to work with.

To achieve what he did last season was phenomenal but we all knew this season would be tougher - a LOT tougher, with the additional strain on the thin squad of European matches. The Board should have bent over backwards to give him the ammunition to go into this season but instead they expect our coach to work miracles. He's Conte not Paul f**king Daniels!

Still, those happy to back and trust the Board, fine. I wish I shared your faith - let's see where we go from here.

    

The football has been awful the last month though, that's not all down to the players or board but mostly the manager, he lost the semi final himself. Doesn't matter what players you have got its no excuse the way Chelsea have been playing. If you think Conte has been perfect then so be it, I don't trust or back the board but some seem to be taken in by Conte's excuses already.

23 minutes ago, Kev56 said:

Since i've been going to the bridge we've gone through 30 managers   By the time i finish i reckon it'll be around 120

I just want to have a manager last longer than a couple of seasons, is that too much to ask? 

20 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

The football has been awful the last month though, that's not all down to the players or board but mostly the manager, he lost the semi final himself. Doesn't matter what players you have got its no excuse the way Chelsea have been playing. If you think Conte has been perfect then so be it, I don't trust or back the board but some seem to be taken in by Conte's excuses already.

Not saying he's been perfect. No coach is perfect and all make mistakes at times - he admitted that himself the other day. But he's done more than enough to have earned some backing so he should have been given the tools to help him do his job. The position we found ourselves in against Bournemouth is inexcusable for a supposed top club. No Striker available for the game - how is that even possible? Piss Poor.

4 minutes ago, Nibs said:

The position we found ourselves in against Bournemouth is inexcusable for a supposed top club. No Striker available for the game - how is that even possible? Piss Poor.

But even when Antonio had a striker option on the bench he turned his nose up at it, despite saying last week he wanted Michy to stay, i still cannot work that one out for the love of God.

Personally, I would love Conte to stay. But I think we all know, he doesn't really want to. I shall be gutted when he goes because I believed he could be the man to bring a stability to the club and develop a unique identity for Chelsea. He's not perfect for sure; he fails to deviate from three at the back even in the most dire of situations (Bournemouth aside) and his judgement of players is questionable. But he won us the title last year with Victor Moses at RWB. Come on, he deserves some respect for that. I would definitely say he is overachieving with the squad he has available to him. The Barcelona ties will be make or break for him; if he can pull off an RDM and get us to the semi's or even final then the board may be tempted to put more faith in him. 

People are fast to forget. Hahahahhaha, some of you says we didn`t play good fotball, it`s boring and blq, blq, blq ...

You are so fast to forget. Last season we scored 85 goals(only Tottenham) scored 1 goal more then us, and that is because their latest matches opponent was not playing and there they score a lot of goals.

City was 5 goals behind us. But now the rats leave their hole and come to say what bad football we play ....

How quick our fan is forgeting, for the first time in many years, the rest of the team in the world was copy out tactics and system. So many teams starting to play 3-4-3, because they see it from Conte .....

I`m done with this forum. Some folks never learn, for them it`s always manager to blame. I would say more, but i would get banned.
They are so smart, they say he can`t pick his best player, not know what player to play and so on. How exactly he forget his touch and what is the best 11 for 2 months in the break ? Cause last season he get all right. How is someone lose his touch in 2 months ?

It`s so obvious it`s the board fault, weak transfer windows we have and the tensity between them and the manager.

Conte is leaving in the summer, and the next manager will have the same faith, but he won`t win anything for us. He will probably not last the half season.

If Guardiola stay at City, no way we catch them with changing manager every year or so. No way.