3 hours ago, Nibs said:

His FIRST ever trophy where we played no-one of any note all the way through!!

Conte was in a different class and it's no wonder he will be remembered fondly by many whereas Sarri will be soon forgotten by all but a small minority (you + one or two others!!)

 

His first trophy at the first big club he managed, Conte didn't win his first major trophy until he was at Juventus? Also took us to another final which we arguably should have won.

Conte was a different class for one season only. Second season he was worse than Sarri. No way should Conte be kept on some pedestal by Chelsea fans whilst Sarri is ridiculed. 

37 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

His first trophy at the first big club he managed, Conte didn't win his first major trophy until he was at Juventus? Also took us to another final which we arguably should have won.

Conte was a different class for one season only. Second season he was worse than Sarri. No way should Conte be kept on some pedestal by Chelsea fans whilst Sarri is ridiculed. 

Yeah I keep neither of them on a pedestal. I worship none of our ex managers. 

Except Robbie. 

5 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

 

Shock horror!  People have different personalities, who'd have thunk it!

6 minutes ago, Valerie said:

Shock horror!  People have different personalities, who'd have thunk it!

One nil up against Newcastle at home after 20 minutes and he doesn't dive into the crowd. 

Shock horror

8 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

I'd rather take a manager that wins European trophies tbh. Second season Conte was a prick. 

Give me the league title over the 2nd tier of Europe every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.

Teams tend to adopt the personality of their coach.  In Conte's first year, he was excited (as above), and the team were solid and won the league.  In his second season, he sulked and moped, and so did the team's performances.

Sarri was subdued and robotic on the sideline, and so was the play of his team.  

Conte is among the top managers and one of our top 3 managers ever, forever Don Conte over Sarri.

League titles are by far most important and will always remembered in years to come, Conte will be forever written in our history as a title winning manager,

Sarri won a lesser cup competition so will probably have a nice sentence or 2 wrote about him in the history book in future years.

Anybody who says they prefer Sarri over Conte is wrong, how can you prefer not winning the league ?

ktbffh

4 hours ago, Valerie said:

Shock horror!  People have different personalities, who'd have thunk it!

Precisely my point.

It’s  not really a question of whether Sarri or conte was best. Both were very good but with quite different philosophies and using people differently. Moses was a hero for conte and a zero for Sarri. Luiz was a hero then a zero the a hero. Yet neither manager could last more than 2 season. That’s really the problem. Players bought for one system are not used in another. Both mangers have had to work with much diminished squads compared to the 2006-2012 team. Chelsea haven’t had a striker that would be first choice for any top 10 team since costa left. We haven’t had a goal scoring midfielder since frank left. Or at least we did, de Bruyne, but José ruined that. The idea that Sarri didn’t achieve much is laughable but it is history. This season as things stand I can only think of two Chelsea players, Kante and Jorginho that would have real prospects starting at citeh or liverpuddle. So any manager is going to struggle. I

Edited June 29, 20197 yr by ozboy

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11750407/kalidou-koulibaly-recalls-maurizio-sarri-demands-hours-after-birth-of-his-son?fbclid=IwAR3O4eRDaCl_6GYFIV6VmGOdtUY45B2PJX_0ydeAyBOuGziWVt8LT__IPxA

7 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

Precisely my point.

I know 

6 hours ago, ozboy said:

It’s  not really a question of whether Sarri or conte was best. Both were very good but with quite different philosophies and using people differently. 

You really underlined your point 

It’s not even a debate, Conte is and will continue to be a superior manager than Sarri.

A league win against one of the best City sides means much more than a Europa League where we only beat one decent side. 

Conte left in a sour situation but his achievements prior to that made him a fan favourite and his relationship with the fans  was one of respect and adulation unlike Sarri who continues to leave little petulant digs at a club who made him a winner.

1 hour ago, Munkworth said:

You really underlined your point 

Somehow. 

9 hours ago, WalterWhiteCFC said:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11750407/kalidou-koulibaly-recalls-maurizio-sarri-demands-hours-after-birth-of-his-son?fbclid=IwAR3O4eRDaCl_6GYFIV6VmGOdtUY45B2PJX_0ydeAyBOuGziWVt8LT__IPxA

This is hilarious, I certainly wouldn't let a cigarette stinking scruff bag tell me what to do,

What kind of man leaves his family his wife in hosptial and newborn son to go "play" run about a field with his mates chasing a ball. 

Koulibaly should of grown a pair as big as kepa's ?

10 hours ago, WalterWhiteCFC said:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11750407/kalidou-koulibaly-recalls-maurizio-sarri-demands-hours-after-birth-of-his-son?fbclid=IwAR3O4eRDaCl_6GYFIV6VmGOdtUY45B2PJX_0ydeAyBOuGziWVt8LT__IPxA

What a d**khead thing to do.

 

3 hours ago, tmarmsi said:

This is hilarious, I certainly wouldn't let a cigarette stinking scruff bag tell me what to do,

What kind of man leaves his family his wife in hosptial and newborn son to go "play" run about a field with his mates chasing a ball. 

Koulibaly should of grown a pair as big as kepa's ?

Koulibaly went off to play professional football, I went off to an over 35 game in the local Sydney league after my second or third kid, I can’t recall. I am still happily married with 4 kids and 3 grandkids. What am I going to do in hospital, hold my wife’s hand for ten hours and say “well done” another 1 million times. 

28 minutes ago, ozboy said:

Koulibaly went off to play professional football, I went off to an over 35 game in the local Sydney league after my second or third kid, I can’t recall. I am still happily married with 4 kids and 3 grandkids. What am I going to do in hospital, hold my wife’s hand for ten hours and say “well done” another 1 million times. 

That would depend on what your wife wanted, I think  

That Sarri was reluctant to let Koulibaly go for the birth itself (if indeed that is what happened), is harder to stomach than recalling him after it, even for the bench. But I'm not a parent, and it's probably different for everybody.

2 hours ago, ozboy said:

Koulibaly went off to play professional football, I went off to an over 35 game in the local Sydney league after my second or third kid, I can’t recall. I am still happily married with 4 kids and 3 grandkids. What am I going to do in hospital, hold my wife’s hand for ten hours and say “well done” another 1 million times. 

Bit strange to defend the decision obviously touched a nerve with you about your decision.

Still it's only a game being played wether it's your profession or not, that being said any job wether it's a game or not you shouldn't have to ask to go to hospital for time needed it should be a human right.

Edited June 29, 20197 yr by tmarmsi

10 hours ago, Chelsbear said:

It’s not even a debate, Conte is and will continue to be a superior manager than Sarri.

A league win against one of the best City sides means much more than a Europa League where we only beat one decent side. 

Conte left in a sour situation but his achievements prior to that made him a fan favourite and his relationship with the fans  was one of respect and adulation unlike Sarri who continues to leave little petulant digs at a club who made him a winner.

City weren't a dominant side in Pep's first year, not even close. 

We'll see who is the better manager now they're both in Serie A.

26 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

We'll see who is the better manager now they're both in Serie A.

How do we measure their ability? Sarri’s inheriting a Juventus side that’s won Serie A for the last, what, eight years? 

He’s got Ronaldo and their about to sign De Ligt for over £100m... and that’s just for starters.

What chance do the other teams have of getting close to Juventus short of Sarri having an absolute disaster of a season?

45 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

City weren't a dominant side in Pep's first year, not even close. 

We'll see who is the better manager now they're both in Serie A.

I’m sorry but that comment isn’t very clever is it?

You do realise It’s akin to someone walking now in and taking over Barcelona while Madrid are in turmoil.

I think just about every footballing person out there knows who the superior manager is and it’s got nothing to do with what will happen this season:

Juventus will walk the league next season like they normally do whoever is in charge, already signed Ramsey and De Ligt and looks like Rabiot is on his way, there squad is quality.

Edited June 29, 20197 yr by Ernie_blue

 

16 hours ago, Ernie_blue said:

Juventus will walk the league next season like they normally do whoever is in charge, already signed Ramsey and De Ligt and looks like Rabiot is on his way, there squad is quality.

That’s what’s galling about it really. Sarri has taken a promotion.