February 24, 20224 yr 41 minutes ago, enigma said: Give us a Saudi owner. I couldn't give a f**k. Morality went out the window a LONG time ago in football and politics alike. Nobody seems to care who owns what, or where our products come from in this country, or most countries for that matter, so from a footballing standpoint I would rather see a wealthy arab own us. Get us that title again. Can I just say. I really don’t like you. I’ve thought for some time that you’re on a windup, never having anything positive to say about the club, any of the players, or the fans. I’m fact you seem to take a delight in slagging us off left right and centre. And by “us”, I mean the club and the it’s supporters, because I’m absolutely convinced that you are no Chelsea fan. In face the only “enigma” about you is that you’ve managed to survive so long on this site without anyone calling you out for your endless snideyness. I’m not going to get into an argument with you, or about you. I’m merely stating that I’ve got you well and truly sussed.
February 24, 20224 yr 11 minutes ago, Upsetter said: Can I just say. I really don’t like you. I’ve thought for some time that you’re on a windup, never having anything positive to say about the club, any of the players, or the fans. I’m fact you seem to take a delight in slagging us off left right and centre. And by “us”, I mean the club and the it’s supporters, because I’m absolutely convinced that you are no Chelsea fan. In face the only “enigma” about you is that you’ve managed to survive so long on this site without anyone calling you out for your endless snideyness. I’m not going to get into an argument with you, or about you. I’m merely stating that I’ve got you well and truly sussed. I think he is a Chelsea fan but every comment is extremely down and defeatist. I like to have a moan as much as the next guy in the match threads but he takes it to the next level. I guess he never posted consistently enough for me to really have a go but I thought about it many times before lol.
February 24, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, enigma said: Give us a Saudi owner. I couldn't give a f**k. Morality went out the window a LONG time ago in football and politics alike. Nobody seems to care who owns what, or where our products come from in this country, or most countries for that matter, so from a footballing standpoint I would rather see a wealthy arab own us. Get us that title again. Rather a wealthy Brit own us, I think we did have some interest from that Jim Ratcliffe guy a year or 2 back? Not sure if he ever bought another English club mind.
February 24, 20224 yr It's very much possible that the club goes bankrupt because of racism towards Roman. This would be like the US gathering all ethnic Japanese while WW2 was going on, just because they are ethnically Japanese. At least we will always be able to say that we had a team that won the CL twice.
February 24, 20224 yr I’m trying to avoid the news now as I can’t take anymore after the last two years and now todays catastrophe. But out of curiosity, is this actually happening or highly likely to that we’ll be confiscated by the government? To be honest though, given the state of the world, I’m not sure I really care anymore.
February 24, 20224 yr 13 minutes ago, Snedger said: I’m trying to avoid the news now as I can’t take anymore after the last two years and now todays catastrophe. But out of curiosity, is this actually happening or highly likely to that we’ll be confiscated by the government? To be honest though, given the state of the world, I’m not sure I really care anymore. They are trying to justify it happen. Soon enterly possible.
February 24, 20224 yr So not happening but being called for. I certainly don’t know very much about the guy and I have no idea if he is close or not to Putin, but I am sure that whether they dissolve CFC or anything else aimed at Abramovic, it will absolutely, without any shadow of a doubt, not result in Putin saying sorry and going home. I think they could kidnap and torture his daughters and he’d shrug and carry on. Still, I suppose that we have to be seen to do something regardless of how futile it is. Can we get Ken back? I do like a bit of nostalgia and despite the lack of success, they were much happier times.
February 24, 20224 yr https://www.google.com/amp/s/fortune.com/2022/02/24/roman-abramovich-owner-chelsea-oligarch-ukraine-invasion-putin/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10547277/amp/Take-Chelsea-Abramovich-Bombshell-documents-accuse-billionaire-links-corruption.html#scso=_2eoXYv7UHIex0PEP3-6vyAg15:0 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mp-calls-for-roman-abramovich-to-be-stripped-of-chelsea-ownership-39b2qq37t https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/24/roman-abramovich-linked-to-russian-state-and-corrupt-activity-mp-says Just a taste of the media reporting. Is gathering pace with a few determined to take advantage of it and knock us down.
February 24, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, AlwaysRight said: Rather a wealthy Brit own us, I think we did have some interest from that Jim Ratcliffe guy a year or 2 back? Not sure if he ever bought another English club mind. Doesn't he own Nice in Ligue 1? If I remember correctly, it would be against the rules for him to own us and Nice at the same time.
February 24, 20224 yr 48 minutes ago, Gol15 said: It's very much possible that the club goes bankrupt because of racism towards Roman. This would be like the US gathering all ethnic Japanese while WW2 was going on, just because they are ethnically Japanese. At least we will always be able to say that we had a team that won the CL twice. It's not like that at all. Take your blinkers off. Roman is tied to Putin. Always has been. Whatever happens happens. Chelsea will always be Chelsea.
February 24, 20224 yr 8 minutes ago, bisright1 said: It's not like that at all. Take your blinkers off. Roman is tied to Putin. Always has been. Whatever happens happens. Chelsea will always be Chelsea. If he wasn't Russian there wouldn't be a problem.
February 24, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, Gol15 said: If he wasn't Russian there wouldn't be a problem. If he wasn't Russian and cosy with Putin he wouldn't be a billionaire and wouldn't own Chelsea. If Putin wasn't Russian then Ukraine wouldn't be being invaded right now. Your argument isn't the slam dunk you think it is. Chelsea is bigger than Roman.
February 24, 20224 yr Just now, bisright1 said: If he wasn't Russian and cosy with Putin he wouldn't be a billionaire and wouldn't own Chelsea. If Putin wasn't Russian then Ukraine wouldn't be being invaded right now. Your argument isn't the slam dunk you think it is. Chelsea is bigger than Roman. The point is that they are trying to shut down the club because the owner is Russian. That's racism.
February 24, 20224 yr Seen a few less comments that the government could simply devolve us. Sell of the bridge and hotel, release the players and staff as a show of "we are doing this because it is right not to make money" sort of thing. Least that seems to be the thoughts/hope of some rival fans.
February 24, 20224 yr 31 minutes ago, Gol15 said: The point is that they are trying to shut down the club because the owner is Russian. That's racism. No they are using the fact our owner is Russian as an excuse to go after our club. If he owned Liverpool or United it would not have even come up. Edited February 24, 20224 yr by axman2526
February 24, 20224 yr 50 minutes ago, Gol15 said: The point is that they are trying to shut down the club because the owner is Russian. That's racism. 19 minutes ago, axman2526 said: No they are using the fact our owner is Russian as an excuse to go after our club. If he owned Liverpool or United it would not have even come up. I was going to buy a machine to make steel helmets and gas masks, i think i'll start making tin foil hats instead.
February 24, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, coco said: I was going to buy a machine to make steel helmets and gas masks, i think i'll start making tin foil hats instead.
February 24, 20224 yr 50 minutes ago, Gol15 said: The point is that they are trying to shut down the club because the owner is Russian. That's racism. No, they are not. I don't think you have quite grasped the seriousness of the situation right now. I can guarantee you right now that the last thing they want to do is shut down Chelsea football club. The number 1 club in London, which is the capital of one of the biggest cities in the world, in the biggest sport in the world, we will be viewed as a major asset to the country. There is a reason why Roman Abramovich wasn't one of the names listed to be affected by sanctions put on Russia a few days ago, it's because it's not something the government wants to do. Things have escalated greatly since then though, and anything can happen at this point. From my own point of view, I don't know how seizing Abramovich's assets hurts Russia, but maybe there is something more to it that I am not aware of. 19 minutes ago, axman2526 said: No they are using the fact our owner is Russian as an excuse to go after our club. If he owned Liverpool or United it would not have even come up. This is just getting silly now. You can't seriously believe that there is a conspiracy in the government to bring Chelsea down.....
February 24, 20224 yr Maybe the plan is to seize Chelsea from Abramovich and then to run it as a nationalised company with Jacob Rees-Mogg appointed our Director of Football?
February 24, 20224 yr I think realistically if/when Roman gets sanctioned (I have no idea if he’s involved but he is the most famous Russian billionaire in the UK hence being mentioned everywhere) the worst I can see happening to us is needing to be self sufficient for a while IE no Roman “loaning” us any more money.
February 25, 20224 yr 46 minutes ago, Blueboys said: I think realistically if/when Roman gets sanctioned (I have no idea if he’s involved but he is the most famous Russian billionaire in the UK hence being mentioned everywhere) the worst I can see happening to us is needing to be self sufficient for a while IE no Roman “loaning” us any more money. Given we lost 150mill while winning the CL we would not carry on for long then most likely. 1 hour ago, Scott Harris said: This is just getting silly now. You can't seriously believe that there is a conspiracy in the government to bring Chelsea down..... No, tongue in cheek there Scott. I believe the powers that be within football itself have their favorites, and we are not one of them. Far as the UK government go I feel no different to them than the Canadian government here or the majority of world leaders elsewhere in politics. They end up attracting a certain kind of person. Alternating between the Greedy, Corrupt and/or useless.
February 25, 20224 yr Pretty much every Russian oligarch will have a connection with Putin, but it's a stupid move to seize all Roman's assets in the UK just to stop the war. A better response would have been to hold talks with the rest of the world to impose sanctions on Russia and it's banks. I'm sure MI6 is currently being mobilized to end Putin. A football club is a money sink, the club doesn't generate enough cash for it to be economically viable as a source of war fund. Fordstam Ltd can easily change it's CEO and the problem would be solved. Can't imagine Putin to be someone who stops a war because his friends are losing money. If anything, it will just prove to justify his propaganda even further
February 25, 20224 yr 11 minutes ago, Deino said: Pretty much every Russian oligarch will have a connection with Putin, but it's a stupid move to seize all Roman's assets in the UK just to stop the war. A better response would have been to hold talks with the rest of the world to impose sanctions on Russia and it's banks. I'm sure MI6 is currently being mobilized to end Putin. A football club is a money sink, the club doesn't generate enough cash for it to be economically viable as a source of war fund. Fordstam Ltd can easily change it's CEO and the problem would be solved. Can't imagine Putin to be someone who stops a war because his friends are losing money. If anything, it will just prove to justify his propaganda even further If the UK government and the US government in particular are so outraged by this then why are the politicians talking and talking instead of sending their respective militaries to help the Ukraine?
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