"Arsenal are a bigger club than Chelsea"?...  You what?!!

Is this some kind of joke? Or maybe it's because they won 5/6 old 1st div titles in the 1930s and most of their trophies came before the 1966 world cup... Have they ever won a European trophy?

In the last 10 years Chelsea have won every major trophy available to them... Multiple times...

Long time lurker, since 2006. ST holder for a few years etc..

 

Been following everything real close, I could probably start a sub stack about it all!

Mana could well be a poster that i saw banned from another forum - talkchelsea (ghost town)

Be interesting to know how many rival fans and supporters have accounts on all our forums!!

We could use some solid deets from the supporters trust with regards to the bids

For me, I think I'd prefer supporters to own some of the club and take a lesser billionaire like candy over potentially the biggest bidder but ends up using us as an asset like the rest of the big boys! (Although potential squabbles could arise) 

Bayern Munich over man utd in terms of how the clubs are being run etc

I'd also like to see a serious reduction in ticket costs, A bid that includes agreements to expand the bridge ideal.

 

Cheers guys! KTBFFH

Edited March 25, 20224 yr by MasonsMount

I don't know, I would say Arsenal are bigger. They have 13 league trophies, 14 FA Cups. League titles are tough to win. Cup competitions can involve kinder draws, some luck etc. League titles requires consistency for 38 games during a season.

They also have an unbeaten season. For me that is impressive. I would say Arsenal are bigger. In Europe they've been failures though. Even with their best teams they failed to capture a European trophy. 

Also if anyone connected to the club read this PLEASE sort out the PL tickets debacle for the love of jesus!

All about optics for the gov so what exactly is going on for me raises the eyebrow. It stinks!

17 minutes ago, ash1407 said:

"Arsenal are a bigger club than Chelsea"?...  You what?!!

 

2 hours ago, evissy said:

We have taken massive steps towards that. Roman was eager to make us great and he did. After seeing that happen we have been taking big steps towards sustainability. 

I don't want any type of Arsene Wenger type philosophies around our club. I'd much rather be Real Madrid than hippie-dippie Arsenal. When you talk about money for guys like Roman it is just money. I don't understand why the money has to be "human-sized". John or Jane don't own top clubs and they don't have to. People always reflect their own lives to things. The way Roman has got his wealth is another question. I rather we have an owner with a cleaner background.

I think the way our academy works we have Great basis for a sustainable system. Now I don't suggest we have guys like Mount or James coming through every year but one or two top guys in 5 years would be great.

Our academy goes from strength to strength. Gallagher, Broja and Colwill all to slot in as long as they stay clear of the RLC like injuries.

29 minutes ago, enigma said:

I don't know, I would say Arsenal are bigger. They have 13 league trophies, 14 FA Cups. League titles are tough to win. Cup competitions can involve kinder draws, some luck etc. League titles requires consistency for 38 games during a season.

They also have an unbeaten season. For me that is impressive. I would say Arsenal are bigger. In Europe they've been failures though. Even with their best teams they failed to capture a European trophy. 

I guess you live in the past.  20 years ago your statement would have made sense  but to say Arsenal is Bigger than Chelsea today is borderline Blasphemous 

Edited March 25, 20224 yr by The Don Antonio

27 minutes ago, enigma said:

I don't know, I would say Arsenal are bigger. They have 13 league trophies, 14 FA Cups. League titles are tough to win. Cup competitions can involve kinder draws, some luck etc. League titles requires consistency for 38 games during a season.

They also have an unbeaten season. For me that is impressive. I would say Arsenal are bigger. In Europe they've been failures though. Even with their best teams they failed to capture a European trophy. 

This must be a joke, historically i'd agree Arsenal were a bigger club, but they've won 6 league titles since the 70/71 season, that's 50 years ago.... they are no longer bigger than us... it's a fact...  no League title since 2004... a gap of 18 years now.... come on let's be realistic, it's like saying Aston Villa are bigger than us because they won five league titles in the 1800's, football moves on. You cannot consider Arsenal to be in the same bracket as us now...yes they may have the Fan base and win the odd cup but look at their league title winning seasons below.

Winners (13): 1930–31, 1932–33, 1933–34, 1934–35, 1937–38, 1947–48, 1952–53, 1970–71, 1988–89, 1990–91, 1997–98, 2001–02, 2003–04

Yes they have won the FA Cup 14 times, but so what, i'd swap 14 FA cups for 1 European Cup let alone 2!!!!! 

11 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Our academy goes from strength to strength. Gallagher, Broja and Colwill all to slot in as long as they stay clear of the RLC like injuries.

I'd add Mbuyamba, Gilmour, Vale and Maatsen to that list in the next couple of seasons.

5 minutes ago, Trueblue76 said:

I'd add Mbuyamba, Gilmour, Vale and Maatsen to that list in the next couple of seasons.

Maybe. I am unsure if they have what it takes to make it at Chelsea. The other 3 are nailed on to be top players of they keep their heads straight and are injury free most of the time.

35 minutes ago, Trueblue76 said:

This must be a joke, historically i'd agree Arsenal were a bigger club, but they've won 6 league titles since the 70/71 season, that's 50 years ago.... they are no longer bigger than us... it's a fact...  no League title since 2004... a gap of 18 years now.... come on let's be realistic, it's like saying Aston Villa are bigger than us because they won five league titles in the 1800's, football moves on. You cannot consider Arsenal to be in the same bracket as us now...yes they may have the Fan base and win the odd cup but look at their league title winning seasons below.

Winners (13): 1930–31, 1932–33, 1933–34, 1934–35, 1937–38, 1947–48, 1952–53, 1970–71, 1988–89, 1990–91, 1997–98, 2001–02, 2003–04

Yes they have won the FA Cup 14 times, but so what, i'd swap 14 FA cups for 1 European Cup let alone 2!!!!! 

Yup, in the last 50 years.. 

Leagues = 5 each

FA Cups = 10 to them, 7 to us

European cup = 0 to them, 2 to us

Secondary European cups = 1 to them, 3 to us

League cup = 2 to them, 4 to us.

 

We got them beat on trophies. But that means f**k all. London is Blue. 

Edited March 25, 20224 yr by bisright1

9 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Yup, in the last 50 years.. 

Leagues = 5 each

FA Cups = 10 to them, 7 to us

European cup = 0 to them, 2 to us

Secondary European cups = 1 to them, 3 to us

League cup = 2 to them, 4 to us.

 

We got them beat on trophies. But that means f**k all. London is Blue. 

What about the biggest trophy of all though - The Community Shield! You can’t leave that titan of footballing achievement out of the equation!

13 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Yup, in the last 50 years.. 

Leagues = 5 each

FA Cups = 10 to them, 7 to us

European cup = 0 to them, 2 to us

Secondary European cups = 1 to them, 3 to us

League cup = 2 to them, 4 to us.

 

We got them beat on trophies. But that means f**k all. London is Blue. 

Might have to use this one when my Arsenal mates start spouting sh*t. We have considerably more in the last 20yrs, more and more important ones in the last 50yrs. Its only when it goes back 100yrs that it actually becomes debatable.

13 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

What about the biggest trophy of all though - The Community Shield! You can’t leave that titan of footballing achievement out of the equation!

Pales into insignificance compared to the Full Members Cup and the Zenith Data Trophy we really have won it all 😁

2 minutes ago, bluehaze said:

Pales into insignificance compared to the Full Members Cup and the Zenith Data Trophy we really have won it all 😁

We love silverware that much we even dropped down a division, rather than suffer mid table mediocrity.

Apparently there is a mystery bidder amongst the shortlist including BWG ad Sir Martin. Still also no news on who is backing Sir Martin's consortium.

Just my observations and opinions today, they could change tomorrow the way its going 🙂  and this is all based on what I have ready in the press which goes from the sublime to the ridiculous.

However on balance I think we are probably, in terms of ownership the most sort after club in the country, maybe the world. (however if Real or Juve were up for sale it would be interesting for example) 

I don't understand the politics or the financials. all I know that to me the future looks good, I would rather Roman over any other owner but looks like we are going to be alright, maybe even better than alright. There maybe a few months where we have to step back, re-assess, think about our strategy as a club. I am personally ready for that. 

Lets hope the players and management are 

KTBBFH (What ever the outcome)  

 

"The process has been complicated by some of the people who were told they weren't on the shortlist refusing to take no for an answer and fighting to get onto it. There's even a suggestion some bidders might get together to try to get onto the shortlist, it's become really, really messy."

From Sky Sports.  Wonder who us kicking up a fuss? WJ?

 

Looks like the ricketts made it.. 

As per reports, Raine’s #Chelsea takeover shortlist:

🔹 Todd Boehly's consortium
🔹 Sir Martin Broughton's consortium
🔹 The Ricketts family
🔹 Mystery bidder

Just now, JM7 said:

As per reports, Raine’s #Chelsea takeover shortlist:

🔹 Todd Boehly's consortium
🔹 Sir Martin Broughton's consortium
🔹 The Ricketts family
🔹 Mystery bidder

Could it be the Sultan of Brunei, long speculated to be interested in buying a PL club.

Interesting the other 3 have done PR but the press can figure out a mystery bidder.

I have to admit I really don't want it to be an American owner. Kroenke at Arsenal, the Glazers at Uniterd, FSG at Liverpool, none of them have good records. Most of them would be wanting Chelsea for their own financial gain rather than improving/maintaining the fortunes of the club.

 

Do we know which bidders are using debt to buy the club and how much they are using?

36 minutes ago, JM7 said:

As per reports, Raine’s #Chelsea takeover shortlist:

🔹 Todd Boehly's consortium
🔹 Sir Martin Broughton's consortium
🔹 The Ricketts family
🔹 Mystery bidder

Stephen Pagliuca .

Not a bad earner for Raine either 30m

Edited March 25, 20224 yr by charierre

What happened to the 4 season ticket holders running that London based investment company with £29b worth of assets? Not heard anything since their final day bid. 

Curious to know who the mystery bidder is too.

So what are thinking is our likely best option? Seen so many negative comments from fair weather fans on facebook about how we can't have British or American owners, surely whoever is buying the club for a record amount of money for a sports club ever, will have our future success in mind?!