4 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

People saying let's get Flick but he too had issues with defence and loves playing players out of position. 

Get Jose mk 1, even he would fail with these owners.

So…will home fans start chanting against the owner anytime soon?

 

or at the very least protest outside the bridge?

45 minutes ago, cfcforeverfan said:

So…will home fans start chanting against the owner anytime soon?

 

or at the very least protest outside the bridge?

They won't care. Has it bothered the Glazers?

Want the owners to pay attention? Don't by the merch, don't buy tickets. Home and away attendances drop, a hit to their pockets they will care.

But I don't see us ever doing that on an organized level. We just let the government get rid of Roman and hand us over to a group who clearly should have failed the fit and proper owners test.

4 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

They won't care. Has it bothered the Glazers?

Want the owners to pay attention? Don't by the merch, don't buy tickets. Home and away attendances drop, a hit to their pockets they will care.

But I don't see us ever doing that on an organized level. We just let the government get rid of Roman and hand us over to a group who clearly should have failed the fit and proper owners test.

The Glazers don't want to sell United because they carve off healthy revenue every season despite the club being massively in debt. But protestors will still try to encourage them to leave because the Glazers are free to sell any time they choose. Our owners have a 10 year commitment so any protests against them will be totally pointless.

1 hour ago, forbzy said:

The Glazers don't want to sell United because they carve off healthy revenue every season despite the club being massively in debt. But protestors will still try to encourage them to leave because the Glazers are free to sell any time they choose. Our owners have a 10 year commitment so any protests against them will be totally pointless.

Indeed, but of they are hit in the pocket they may see sense and handle the club properly.

3 hours ago, axman2526 said:

They won't care. Has it bothered the Glazers?

Want the owners to pay attention? Don't by the merch, don't buy tickets. Home and away attendances drop, a hit to their pockets they will care.

But I don't see us ever doing that on an organized level. We just let the government get rid of Roman and hand us over to a group who clearly should have failed the fit and proper owners test.

Glazers just sold 1/4 of the club and would sold 100% in couple of years to Sir Jim because of the pressure from fans

Poch explained the decision to play Enzo and Caicedo against Arsenal when they returned straight from internationals in South America by " joking" that Todd would have killed him had they not both started .

I wonder if there's any pressure on him to play expensive signings purely based on what Todd and the club has forked out from them ?

Maybe it was just a " joke" but still an odd thing to say 

10 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Get Jose mk 1, even he would fail with these owners.

We'd never bring him back but I honestly believe Jose would be the best long term bet for our future now.

Purely because he's bin so many of these sh*te untalented young players in January and actually attempt to build a real football club.

8 hours ago, axman2526 said:

They won't care. Has it bothered the Glazers?

Want the owners to pay attention? Don't by the merch, don't buy tickets. Home and away attendances drop, a hit to their pockets they will care.

But I don't see us ever doing that on an organized level. We just let the government get rid of Roman and hand us over to a group who clearly should have failed the fit and proper owners test.

They may not be " fit and proper" in the football sense, but isn't the test all about finance and that sort of stuff ?

They've certainly made millions available and are not syphoning off money, but Clearlake and its clients are investors and will want to make money off of our club eventually.

A period of stability after the forced sale was absolutely vital for the club and the new owners to settle in and calmly assess the situation before making any decisions.

But we got the opposite 

36 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Maybe it was just a " joke" but still an odd thing to say 

About zero chance that was a joke.

I think Poch is right on the brink at the moment. Wouldn't be shocked if he was sacked tomorrow but a loss or draw at Goodison almost certainly does him in. Results is one thing, Eghbali and Boehly are not going to sit idle and watch their prized investments (Enzo, Caicedo) dwindle away and not do anything about it. No chance.

36 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

About zero chance that was a joke.

I think Poch is right on the brink at the moment. Wouldn't be shocked if he was sacked tomorrow but a loss or draw at Goodison almost certainly does him in. Results is one thing, Eghbali and Boehly are not going to sit idle and watch their prized investments (Enzo, Caicedo) dwindle away and not do anything about it. No chance.

Can’t see Poch getting fired. We need stability. Most baffling factor for me, despite our unprecedented outlay, is that we don’t seem to possess a single match winner. Payers like Hazard don’t grow on trees however haven’t seen anyone with the spark to score or create goals which require a bit of verve/ brilliance 

40 minutes ago, Timmy Elms said:

Can’t see Poch getting fired. We need stability. Most baffling factor for me, despite our unprecedented outlay, is that we don’t seem to possess a single match winner. Payers like Hazard don’t grow on trees however haven’t seen anyone with the spark to score or create goals which require a bit of verve/ brilliance 

Agreed. I think many on here thought we were getting something like that with Mudryk but instead we appear to have picked up Gronkjaer mk 2, and if anything that is probably harsh on Gronkjaer.

The amount of money squandered by these owners on dross is astonishing.

No wonder Enrique wanted completely new wingers. 

Mudryk and Madueke simply aren't ready and the time it'll take to develop them in this current mess of a team will take goodness knows. 

28 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

No wonder Enrique wanted completely new wingers. 

Mudryk and Madueke simply aren't ready and the time it'll take to develop them in this current mess of a team will take goodness knows. 

Think a big part of our 2 managerial have been they're not winners and don't demand excellence both Potter and Poch are used to working with poor players.  They don't win much but they're used to the low level of talent we have.

If we'd hired Enrique, Mou, Conte, Pep etc in the summer they'd have all walked a day before the season started as we simply didn’t give them a competitive squad.

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

No wonder Enrique wanted completely new wingers. 

Mudryk and Madueke simply aren't ready and the time it'll take to develop them in this current mess of a team will take goodness knows. 

Well he's got Mbappe, Dembele, Kolo Muani and Ramos and he got stuffed against Newcastle as well.

5 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Well he's got Mbappe, Dembele, Kolo Muani and Ramos and he got stuffed against Newcastle as well.

Not saying he was the answer (still believe Poch was the best on paper) but its becoming clearer why Enrique who wanted to compete immediately wanted the club to get new wingers. 

my wonky eye prediction... Fans turn on the owners and they'll start asset stripping the club, try to sell the ground and house us at the Wasps stadium in Twickenham and take the brand name to the States to play as a Franchise in the MLS

 

 

6 minutes ago, olderschoolcfc said:

my wonky eye prediction... Fans turn on the owners and they'll start asset stripping the club, try to sell the ground and house us at the Wasps stadium in Twickenham and take the brand name to the States to play as a Franchise in the MLS

 

 

I don't think that's possible tbh.

The buyout conditions prevents all sorts of things for 10 years.

Anyway, it'll be the team and Poch that will get stick .

If the owners get stick they'll just stay away, the game doesn't matter to them  anyway , money and investment returns are their main focus

 

 

12 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

I don't think that's possible tbh.

The buyout conditions prevents all sorts of things for 10 years.

Anyway, it'll be the team and Poch that will get stick .

If the owners get stick they'll just stay away, the game doesn't matter to them  anyway , money and investment returns are their main focus

 

 

True. But return on investment relies somewhat on success on the field. Unlike the American sports franchises where teams can continue to be profitable despite years of miserable performances, financial rewards with football are much more aligned with success. If we spend years in mid-table I imagine the owners will lose a ton of money on their investment.

26 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

I don't think that's possible tbh.

The buyout conditions prevents all sorts of things for 10 years.

Anyway, it'll be the team and Poch that will get stick .

If the owners get stick they'll just stay away, the game doesn't matter to them  anyway , money and investment returns are their main focus

 

Just now, Timmy Elms said:

35 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

I don't think that's possible tbh.

The buyout conditions prevents all sorts of things for 10 years.

Anyway, it'll be the team and Poch that will get stick .

If the owners get stick they'll just stay away, the game doesn't matter to them  anyway , money and investment returns are their main focus

 

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None of us have access to Clearlake’s contract. At the end of their denture will depts be passed on to the club? Btw at risk of sounding like a miserable sod, our front three of Sterling, Jackson and the Ukraine is possibly our weakest front three in 40 years

I agree with Pat on the idea we are 2 seasons away from CL football. 

This young side will go on a rollercoaster ride as they have been on for the entire season. At some point the core starts to form and consistency will come. Then we can start talking about competing with the Prem's elite.

 

11 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Indeed, but of they are hit in the pocket they may see sense and handle the club properly.

Right idea, but I think we need to do something to affect the valuation of the club.

Get the CPO to vote to re-name the stadium to 'We Love Paedos Bridge' or something

31 minutes ago, Timmy Elms said:

None of us have access to Clearlake’s contract. At the end of their denture will depts be passed on to the club? Btw at risk of sounding like a miserable sod, our front three of Sterling, Jackson and the Ukraine is possibly our weakest front three in 40 years

True mate. If Todd was the only owner I would be less concerned about a vanity project that might cost him a few job.

He brought Clearlake Investors in on deadline day, that might be a concern.

As for the forwards ?

Has our Academy been demolished? An 18 year old scored for Brighton last week against us after a few months in their Academy after buying him from abroad, and a different 18 year old straight from the Academy ( not loaned out )  kid scored the winner for them last night .

Few kids on our bench last night to be fair though

1 hour ago, forbzy said:

True. But return on investment relies somewhat on success on the field. Unlike the American sports franchises where teams can continue to be profitable despite years of miserable performances, financial rewards with football are much more aligned with success. If we spend years in mid-table I imagine the owners will lose a ton of money on their investment.

That would seem to make sense, but during our 20 years of success under Roman I think we only had 2 years of profit and over a £ billion of debt. But certainly success will generate more income. If I had money to invest in anticipation of profit I wouldn't be putting into our club 🤣

Maybe after 10 years they sell us on for a profit ?