Probably found it moot considering UEFA already limited it to 5 years. 

4 hours ago, RMH said:

We can accuse the owners of being clueless but not of not trying or stripping the club from its assets as what is happening at ManU. They tried the experienced, established players last season and we ended up with the likes of Koulibaly, Aubameyang and Joao Felix. Everybody was annoyed and we were only too happy that they managed to get rid of them this summer. They've tried now to unearth some young gems and we've got at least done so with Palmer. Plus, we've got some players other teams were after, like Enzo and Caicedo. The owners have shed loads to learn, I agree, but we can't say that they are at the same level of the Glazers. This club has gone through sh*t in the last two years, not all on the present owners as the government made sure to hit us hard because the owner happened to be Russian, so how can anyone be surprised that all this is finally catching up? The owners are new to the PL and have made some bad decisions. We also have got some good players in the team, which for reasons unknown to me are not properly functioning (and don't tell me that a midfield of Enzo-Caicedo was not on paper one to dream of). Be aware of what you wish, you might want to change owners but we could end up with the likes of what ManU have.

Right, some of the conspiracy theories here are ridiculous. Clearlake clearly wanted the club to do well and remain successful it’s simply the case of them being overly ambitious and clueless owners that thought they could do things their way and innovate the premier league but their plan blew up in their face. Sometimes good intentions can go wrong. Comparing them to the glazers or saying there is some grand plan to rip Chelsea of its fortunes is ridiculous.

On 10/12/2023 at 16:07, forbzy said:

Yes. The best we can hope is that Clearlake don't have to make too many decisions. Because as we have seen almost every decision they make is terrible.

Haha, the Ross Barkley of club owners.

2 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

I think Matt Law has done irreparable damage to his credibility and reputation as a journalist this season. Him and about a hundred others as well LOL

I would like to agree, but for some reason, these people keep getting quoted.

6 hours ago, RMH said:

We can accuse the owners of being clueless but not of not trying or stripping the club from its assets as what is happening at ManU. They tried the experienced, established players last season and we ended up with the likes of Koulibaly, Aubameyang and Joao Felix. Everybody was annoyed and we were only too happy that they managed to get rid of them this summer. They've tried now to unearth some young gems and we've got at least done so with Palmer. Plus, we've got some players other teams were after, like Enzo and Caicedo. The owners have shed loads to learn, I agree, but we can't say that they are at the same level of the Glazers. This club has gone through sh*t in the last two years, not all on the present owners as the government made sure to hit us hard because the owner happened to be Russian, so how can anyone be surprised that all this is finally catching up? The owners are new to the PL and have made some bad decisions. We also have got some good players in the team, which for reasons unknown to me are not properly functioning (and don't tell me that a midfield of Enzo-Caicedo was not on paper one to dream of). Be aware of what you wish, you might want to change owners but we could end up with the likes of what ManU have.

Good to see someone that has some common sense on the subject of our owners. Our owners are massively ambitious which is something that most teams can't say about theirs, but unfortunately they have made big mistakes so far but nothing irreparable. Hopefully they've learned a lot since they've come in but we'll see how they amend the mistakes they've made going forward, we'll see in 2/3 years how we're progressing as a club.
 

I think we've now got a very good base of young players tied to the club but over the next couple of transfer windows we need to mainly focus on players that can come in as established pros that can have an immediate impact and help gel the team together.

Of course this will be met with things such as:

- Our young players are all terrible

- The owners are clowns

- We're getting relegated

But quite frankly I don't care, the doomsayer opinions mean nothing to me in regards to changing my mind on it.

5 hours ago, yaz said:

I don't see how that's a ''blow for Chelsea'', we've already signed so many player on those extended contracts. If anything it's a blow for other teams that won't be able to copy the model (whether they'd want to or not is a different discussion).

The media narrative recently has been that we're screwed because we're stuck with these players for a long time, and now the fact that we won't be able to sign more players on long contracts is a blow?

And let's not forget the narrative that we've somehow exploited a loophole that has now been closed, rather than stating the real truth that the rules have always been there and available to all. We signed Kepa on a7 year deal years ago now. That fact that other clubs have chosen not to use the strategy is somewhat different in reality to dirty Chelsea rascals ducking and diving.

Sadly the reality of the situation is nowhere near sensationalist enough to get Jim fking White wetting his knickers and screaming his usual bollox

5 hours ago, RMH said:

And what is the reason for it? Any actual logic behind other than "Chelsea have done it, we must stop it"? If it had been one of the media darlings, Liverpool, Arsenal or ManU, there wouldn't have been any issue at all about it. It's getting to a point with the FA and PL (and UEFA) that I'd actually now welcome a Superleague just to give the two fingers to those haters.

Would we qualify with this mob in charge now

1 hour ago, timetowaste said:

Good to see someone that has some common sense on the subject of our owners. Our owners are massively ambitious which is something that most teams can't say about theirs, but unfortunately they have made big mistakes so far but nothing irreparable. Hopefully they've learned a lot since they've come in but we'll see how they amend the mistakes they've made going forward, we'll see in 2/3 years how we're progressing as a club.
 

I think we've now got a very good base of young players tied to the club but over the next couple of transfer windows we need to mainly focus on players that can come in as established pros that can have an immediate impact and help gel the team together.

Of course this will be met with things such as:

- Our young players are all terrible

- The owners are clowns

- We're getting relegated

But quite frankly I don't care, the doomsayer opinions mean nothing to me in regards to changing my mind on it.

What it will definitely entail is some financial creativity I order to fund any further changes due to the likely FFP implications.  It is therefore not a major leap to assume that the club will cash in on 8ts most marketable assets in order to fund a change in the dynamics on the pitch to increase the value of the club and its remaining assets.

Regarding this post

“They tried the experienced, established players last season and we ended up with the likes of Koulibaly, Aubameyang and Joao Felix. Everybody was annoyedand we were only too happy that they managed to get rid of them this summer”

talk about rewriting history to suit an agenda 

they signed those players, Todd did personally, he copped to it. They got extremely fortunate that Clearlake is co owned by the Saudi loads a money  Fund so they could unload the 2 turkey signings and after paying 10 mill for Felix were lucky it was only a loan. 

41 minutes ago, General said:

Regarding this post

“They tried the experienced, established players last season and we ended up with the likes of Koulibaly, Aubameyang and Joao Felix. Everybody was annoyedand we were only too happy that they managed to get rid of them this summer”

talk about rewriting history to suit an agenda 

they signed those players, Todd did personally, he copped to it. They got extremely fortunate that Clearlake is co owned by the Saudi loads a money  Fund so they could unload the 2 turkey signings and after paying 10 mill for Felix were lucky it was only a loan. 

Nonsense ... we got a low fee or no fee for the players that went to Saudi. Compare and contrast to what the Saudis were paying other clubs for players  ... and the guys we sold were a great fit culturally as well, so were far more natural transfers than some of the others that went.

Talk about rewriting history to suit an agenda 🙂 

Interesting story on LA Dodgers here today.  You may be aware, but they have signed Shohei Ohtani who became a free agent after his LA Angels contract expired.  The important point being it was the largest contract in sports history - 10 years, $700M.  Todd enjoys these long expensive contracts. 

Now, the interesting part is news today that Ohtani will defer $680M will be deferred until after conclusion of the deal, to be paid out 2034 to 2043, with Ohtani taking a $2M annual salary per year for the next ten years.

We thought we had long contracts - this is a whole other level of mortgaging your future, and shows the money flowing through sports.  Wonder how many players at Chelsea will be on deferred wages in years to come (I'm sure that will be banned immediately, and probably for the best).

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39092632/shohei-ohtani-defer-680m-deal-dodgers-sources

 

1 hour ago, PhilH930 said:

Interesting story on LA Dodgers here today.  You may be aware, but they have signed Shohei Ohtani who became a free agent after his LA Angels contract expired.  The important point being it was the largest contract in sports history - 10 years, $700M.  Todd enjoys these long expensive contracts. 

Now, the interesting part is news today that Ohtani will defer $680M will be deferred until after conclusion of the deal, to be paid out 2034 to 2043, with Ohtani taking a $2M annual salary per year for the next ten years.

We thought we had long contracts - this is a whole other level of mortgaging your future, and shows the money flowing through sports.  Wonder how many players at Chelsea will be on deferred wages in years to come (I'm sure that will be banned immediately, and probably for the best).

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39092632/shohei-ohtani-defer-680m-deal-dodgers-sources

 

I know that is a crazy amount of dept the Dodgers have just committed to. They will have to pay interest on that too. Even without interest that is almost 70m a year on a player that will probably have retired by then.

5 hours ago, PhilH930 said:

Interesting story on LA Dodgers here today.  You may be aware, but they have signed Shohei Ohtani who became a free agent after his LA Angels contract expired.  The important point being it was the largest contract in sports history - 10 years, $700M.  Todd enjoys these long expensive contracts. 

Now, the interesting part is news today that Ohtani will defer $680M will be deferred until after conclusion of the deal, to be paid out 2034 to 2043, with Ohtani taking a $2M annual salary per year for the next ten years.

We thought we had long contracts - this is a whole other level of mortgaging your future, and shows the money flowing through sports.  Wonder how many players at Chelsea will be on deferred wages in years to come (I'm sure that will be banned immediately, and probably for the best).

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39092632/shohei-ohtani-defer-680m-deal-dodgers-sources

 

Think Barcelona will be licking their lips over this. Move over levers, balloon payments, come on down!

Deferred payments are illegal in football. 

Shohei Ohtani must be a really nice guy, I mean who only takes a tiny proportion of their pay and wait the full payment for another 10 years. Some tax accountant may explain the logic behind it. Maybe Boehly could find another loop hole and defer all operational payment for 10 years 🤔

Baseball is a f**ked up sport when it comes to salaries, theres some players who retired 20 years ago that are still being paid part of their salary now, couple of million dollars a year paid to retire.

Slightly straying from the topic, but why did Roman have to be forced out for simply acting in a way that avoided him being flung out of an upper story window or becoming 'mysteriously' ill from poisoning whilst state owned Man City are fine despite their OPEC member owners voluntarily inviting Putin and laying on this welcome for him?

Who exactly is enabling Putin out of the two?

34 minutes ago, Snedger said:

Slightly straying from the topic, but why did Roman have to be forced out for simply acting in a way that avoided him being flung out of an upper story window or becoming 'mysteriously' ill from poisoning whilst state owned Man City are fine despite their OPEC member owners voluntarily inviting Putin and laying on this welcome for him?

Who exactly is enabling Putin out of the two?

Looks a bit like Sarri to me actually

47 minutes ago, Snedger said:

Slightly straying from the topic, but why did Roman have to be forced out for simply acting in a way that avoided him being flung out of an upper story window or becoming 'mysteriously' ill from poisoning whilst state owned Man City are fine despite their OPEC member owners voluntarily inviting Putin and laying on this welcome for him?

Who exactly is enabling Putin out of the two?

Not to boil it down to my owners worse than your owner but Cities are undoubtedly worse, Cities owner was sat with Assad at the same time the British Gov was closing down on Abramovich. They have a far worse history of human rights abuses. 

Completely corrupt game, I just hope they get their comeuppance at some point. 

2 hours ago, Victor90 said:

Not to boil it down to my owners worse than your owner but Cities are undoubtedly worse, Cities owner was sat with Assad at the same time the British Gov was closing down on Abramovich. They have a far worse history of human rights abuses. 

Completely corrupt game, I just hope they get their comeuppance at some point. 

Similarly, i suspect that this is why Newcastle's owners have remained benignly out of view. Having spent £300m for the club please don't tell me the current incarnation is the end goal with Joelinton acting as the fulcrum for the entire team.

With the 115 charges against Man City and the pant wetting hysteria surrounding those murky, flashy bling boys from West London, why put your head above the parapet now. Just trundle along in the background whilst the circus plays on and be ready to step it up when the time is right. This from Wiki.

Still it's Eddie and the boys. The entertainers, and what about their injuries, i mean wow. So its all alright yeah.

Govenment still sitting on the 2.6Bn taken from Roman before drumming him out. Still, 2 years later they have unearthed some shady boardroom dealing that alledgedly touches part of Chelsea, so it was all justified, Well done everyone.

 

 

Roman era is officially RIP! It has been for a year. 

Boehly era is on and we have not performed like we wanted. By we I mean fans. Did Boehly expect this, I don't know. Did they plan for this, still don't know. 

We are a mid-table side until we are a functioning team once more. If we do well rest of the season we finish 7th, if we play like we play now 10th. Next season maybe with new players we are at maximum performance 5th but most likely 8th. Season after that maximum performance 4th, most likely 7th. 

This is even if we sell and buy well. Young players, young inexperienced core doesn't have consistency to be that much better. 

We lack true leaders but people are growing into those shoes atm. 

25 minutes ago, evissy said:

Roman era is officially RIP! It has been for a year. 

Boehly era is on and we have not performed like we wanted. By we I mean fans. Did Boehly expect this, I don't know. Did they plan for this, still don't know. 

We are a mid-table side until we are a functioning team once more. If we do well rest of the season we finish 7th, if we play like we play now 10th. Next season maybe with new players we are at maximum performance 5th but most likely 8th. Season after that maximum performance 4th, most likely 7th. 

This is even if we sell and buy well. Young players, young inexperienced core doesn't have consistency to be that much better. 

We lack true leaders but people are growing into those shoes atm. 

What makes you think we will reach 10th? 

I think Palace will lose to City this weekend but it is a distinct possibility that we could be 14th after this weekend's games.

1 hour ago, evissy said:

Roman era is officially RIP! It has been for a year. 

Boehly era is on and we have not performed like we wanted. By we I mean fans. Did Boehly expect this, I don't know. Did they plan for this, still don't know. 

We are a mid-table side until we are a functioning team once more. If we do well rest of the season we finish 7th, if we play like we play now 10th. Next season maybe with new players we are at maximum performance 5th but most likely 8th. Season after that maximum performance 4th, most likely 7th. 

This is even if we sell and buy well. Young players, young inexperienced core doesn't have consistency to be that much better. 

We lack true leaders but people are growing into those shoes atm. 

While I don't have faith in the owners to build us back in to a top football team, nevermind about elite one, I also very much believe in their ability to both handle finances and make money.

We are an asset to Clearlake, they are worth billions and answer to their investors. One way or another they will make money for their investors of Chelsea FC. I am sure of that.

3 hours ago, axman2526 said:

While I don't have faith in the owners to build us back in to a top football team, nevermind about elite one, I also very much believe in their ability to both handle finances and make money.

We are an asset to Clearlake, they are worth billions and answer to their investors. One way or another they will make money for their investors of Chelsea FC. I am sure of that.

Yes, operational cost is and will go down, as we have most players on long contract with lower pay, which somewhat offset the loss of revenue in CL and finishing higher in the table. Keep selling academy players ( got a few more left) from the Roman era to make some profit. My guess is they had in mind we will be able to make profits in a few years by selling those wonder kids they purchased, and that's a big IF even we are being kind 🤔 I doubt Boehly even watches the round ball football game before he took over, so profit will come before winning a football game.

On 12/12/2023 at 17:19, Frankie8Lampard said:

Right, some of the conspiracy theories here are ridiculous. Clearlake clearly wanted the club to do well and remain successful it’s simply the case of them being overly ambitious and clueless owners that thought they could do things their way and innovate the premier league but their plan blew up in their face. Sometimes good intentions can go wrong. Comparing them to the glazers or saying there is some grand plan to rip Chelsea of its fortunes is ridiculous.

They're much worse than the Glazers that isn't disputable

You can argue they have better intentions and you'd almost certainly be right but as they say the road to relegation is paved with good intentions

Our owners are dangerously stupid to the point a simple questionnaire on how to run a football club would have excluded them from the process.

"We plan to sell everyone and spend a billion a bunch of 18 year olds that will make us a super team in 5 years"

Right, Next!