Don't think the season should go on just because it's Liverpool's turn to win it, 30 years wait or not. Playing closed door, a game every 48 hours, all valid options if the players are ready. With the lock down, I don't think anyone is ready to get back onto the field tomorrow if all the covid-19 drama end tonight. I reckon the lock down will last 3-4 months at least, so we are talking  about well into the next season..

Discussions about a quarantined camp to finish off the games. Could work I guess

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/coronavirus-premier-league-isolated-camps-remaining-fixtures-dates-suspension-latest-a9432961.html?jwsource=cl
 

17 hours ago, Slojo said:

Playing out the season at this rate will only have a big knock on effect for years to come, whereas if it's voided it could potentially start again in September when things have cleared up, if they have by then. Trying to play it out at this rate will be a stupid move, because you're only going to be pushing everything else back, by the time we start playing it, it's going to go through June and August, players have stopped playing have to get them fit again, contract situations, etc. 

I think the smartest thing to do right now is void the season instead of cramming it all in and causing a big knock off effect for years to come. 

 

It only really has that effect if you're fixated with the August-May calendar which has already been compromised with this virus and the next world cup anyway.

I just don't personally think a void is fair. I'm not even talking about Liverpool as out of all the clubs that will suffer they probably will the less as they're still overwhelming favourites next season regardless, in the grand scheme of things it will just be a minor irritation to them.

I'm talking about the likes of Sheffield United, their long term future likely depends on their position this season. Get CL football (even Europa) they have funds to truly build and make themselves a long term top half team in the PL, however a voided season means they are back to square one, technically a newly promoted team but every chance they will be deflated, suffer second season syndrome and back down they go for another decade. They have CL football in their hands, they deserve the chance to play those final games and see through what they started.

If the seasons voided Spurs and Arsenal will get rewarded with CL football despite both having their worst season for years ahead of Leicester and Sheffield United who have had superb season's and as it stands are both in (factoring SHU game in hand), how is that even remotely fair? Let's not forget the free money the likes of Norwich will get on top of that.

I don't know how they will do it, but somehow for the integrity of the sports and so clubs like Sheffield don't unwarrantly suffer long term damage, this season has to be finished somehow.

Edited March 30, 20206 yr by Argo

Not a fan of the idea of playing the remaining games behind closed doors in a short space of time. Surely the only motive for that is pure greed. And it will still leave the final standings with an asterisk next to them. 

If they are going to finish the season, just wait until it's safe for supporters to return and play as normal even if that's in the autumn or winter. Either that or void the season and just wait as long as it takes to start the new season.

11 minutes ago, Argo said:

I just don't personally think a void is fair.

Its not fare that thousands will die a lonely death on a hospital bed with no family around them over the coming weeks. Its not fare that a lot of those people will be health/social care workers.

 

6 minutes ago, coco said:

Its not fare that thousands will die a lonely death on a hospital bed with no family around them over the coming weeks. Its not fare that a lot of those people will be health/social care workers.

 

I'm getting quite sick of this notion that if you care about football that must automatically mean you want people to die.

This isn't mutually exclusive, you do realise you can care for life and want football to restart?

2 minutes ago, Argo said:

 

This isn't mutually exclusive, you do realise you can care for life and want football to restart?

Of course thats true, but your use of the word 'fair' is out of place, its just unlucky.

The only benefit to completing this season is to allow half of the population of Liverpool to rob the houses of the other half when they are away down the West Derby Road, celebrating the fact that they really really are just as good as Blackburn and Leicester, it's just taken them several years longer to get there.

40 minutes ago, coco said:

Of course thats true, but your use of the word 'fair' is out of place, its just unlucky.

I think fairness comes out of decisions made, if anything people who get the virus are the unlucky ones. 

5 hours ago, JM7 said:

Discussions about a quarantined camp to finish off the games. Could work I guess

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/coronavirus-premier-league-isolated-camps-remaining-fixtures-dates-suspension-latest-a9432961.html?jwsource=cl
 

That shouldn't even be considered, its a ridiculous idea.

Why should only the prem be finished, what about the other leagues?

How on earth can you isolate that many people at once, taking a=them away from their families. Where will they live, train, eat? Your looking at thousands of players, officials, coaches, media staff, physios, first aid, doctors etc.

They will all need to be tested continuously, I for one dont give enough of a sh*t about football to see them take away loads of vital testing/treatment equipment from much more deserving people who desperately need this equipment.

What about players/Coaches/managers who will be out of contract by then? Its ok saying they can extend the contract bu what if they dont want to? What if a team in the relegation zone offer massive contracts to an opposition teams players?

Edited March 30, 20206 yr by dkw

3 hours ago, coco said:

Of course thats true, but your use of the word 'fair' is out of place, its just unlucky.

Point is, just because one thing is more unfair doesn't mean the party in the "less unfair" thing don't have a right to feel aggrieved.

For example Barca 2009 happened to us during the Swine Flu pandemic, in the heat of the moment after the game did you shrug your shoulders and say "oh well others have it worse"? That game wasn't more important than human life just like Sheffield's CL qualification isn't now, but their fans will still have the right to be upset.

1 hour ago, dkw said:

That shouldn't even be considered, its a ridiculous idea.

Why should only the prem be finished, what about the other leagues?

How on earth can you isolate that many people at once, taking a=them away from their families. Where will they live, train, eat? Your looking at thousands of players, officials, coaches, media staff, physios, first aid, doctors etc.

They will all need to be tested continuously, I for one dont give enough of a sh*t about football to see them take away loads of vital testing/treatment equipment from much more deserving people who desperately need this equipment.

What about players/Coaches/managers who will be out of contract by then? Its ok saying they can extend the contract bu what if they dont want to? What if a team in the relegation zone offer massive contracts to an opposition teams players?

Strangely I don't miss the football as much as I thought I would. Although I do miss meeting the people I go to the games with. Match day is normally the only time I see them. Perhaps as the years have gone by football has moved down the list of my priorities. Health and well-being of people is far more important. If football is played and as you say it's not just the Premier League, what about other leagues. Also it's not just the players and support staff. What about ambulance staff? They have far more important things to deal with than attend to a footballer who has been injured in what some would describe as a meaningless event.

I read an article the other day and in in it a number of shirt sponsors and providers are due to change soon (the end of June?). Would there be contractual repercussions if a season is extended i.e. would a current shirt sponsor or provider expect to see their name or product on display until the season is over? Is it that important. I don't know.

I've posted this elsewhere but consideration being given to scrapping the season in Scotland.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52092857

Bizarrely games are still being played in Belarus.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52084121

Whatever happens, I for one don't want next season affected,all play one game crap.

Playing out the season has got nothing to do with Liverpool. It lends  integrity to that season, all leagues should do the same.Even if it has to start very late, after a pre season etc.

At first I thought it was great that the Scousers would be denied the title, now, I don't really care it was nailed on anyway, it's all the other teams, relegation, European places and promotion that need to finish .

The next season will have to be jigged around anyway to make it meaningful regardless of finishing this season

19 hours ago, Boyne said:

And this could be the reaction of fans of one club. From that great day in 2005.

 

I was just happy enough that Gerrard is still waiting to win a league title .

1 hour ago, Argo said:

Point is, just because one thing is more unfair doesn't mean the party in the "less unfair" thing don't have a right to feel aggrieved.

For example Barca 2009 happened to us during the Swine Flu pandemic, in the heat of the moment after the game did you shrug your shoulders and say "oh well others have it worse"? That game wasn't more important than human life just like Sheffield's CL qualification isn't now, but their fans will still have the right to be upset.

If the 9 remaining games are to be played in July that alone makes the season irregular, it will look like pre-season with teams being out of shape and many results might not reflect how things actually are to say the least, add that games would be played behind closed doors and the season will be highly different from a normal season because 9-10 games played in such different circumstances is a large enough sample that would make the whole season very unusual.

We might end up losing most of those 9 games as a result simply because we might just be one of those teams that simply couldn't adapt, after all our best players are our young players this season.

Now you may think that it's still more fair to play out the rest of the games in these much less than normal circumstances and that any team that doesn't do well can only blame themselves because it's all the same for everyone but that still wouldn't make the real essence of a normal season, it would be just filling in some type of a form of it.

2 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

Playing out the season has got nothing to do with Liverpool. It lends  integrity to that season, all leagues should do the same.Even if it has to start very late, after a pre season etc.

At first I thought it was great that the Scousers would be denied the title, now, I don't really care it was nailed on anyway, it's all the other teams, relegation, European places and promotion that need to finish .

The next season will have to be jigged around anyway to make it meaningful regardless of finishing this season

So ruin next season as well, a season thats going to be much more important to the survival of clubs than finishing this one will? 

The sooner this one is voided the better, clubs associations can then start planning their contingency plans. 

Edited March 30, 20206 yr by dkw

It wasnt fair when Liverpool got away with a ghost goal in the semis and went on to win the CL in 05.

27 minutes ago, dkw said:

So ruin next season as well, a season thats going to be much more important to the survival of clubs than finishing this one will? 

The sooner this one is voided the better, clubs associations can then start planning their contingency plans. 

Next season will be ruined regardless , it won't be a normal season at all , football will be last thing to get the ok as restrictions are lifted , then an  early finish for the euros.

Plus mass legal challenges in the event of a voided season will cause all sorts of problems..

Finish this season, draw a line under it, then work out how to play the next shortened season. 

Just now, The Rising Sun said:

Next season will be ruined regardless , it won't be a normal season at all , football will be last thing to get the ok as restrictions are lifted , then an  early finish for the euros.

Plus mass legal challenges in the event of a voided season will cause all sorts of problems..

Finish this season, draw a line under it, then work out how to play the next shortened season. 

Forget about Liverpool .

1 hour ago, The Rising Sun said:

Next season will be ruined regardless , it won't be a normal season at all , football will be last thing to get the ok as restrictions are lifted , then an  early finish for the euros.

Plus mass legal challenges in the event of a voided season will cause all sorts of problems..

Finish this season, draw a line under it, then work out how to play the next shortened season. 

But how do we finish it, it's impossible without putting people at risk, and that's the single most important thing now. 

Edited March 30, 20206 yr by dkw

I agree with Boyne I don't really miss football at all what I miss is the routine of daily life. Chelsea rarely play on a Saturday so what I miss is going to the bookies to put on a football and racing bet on a Saturday afternoon. I can't see football coming back for months and it's debatable if this season could or even should be finished. Six month lockdown if it happens well football is going to face some hard facts BT and Sky money will be gone leaving some clubs on very thin ice financially and inevitably some lower league clubs going to the wall.

Am I right in thinking that the PL can’t carry on into July because they’ve all agreed that end of June is the cut off? Also, we would have to fit in with the rest of Europe. We could carry on our season in August etc because CL, EL begin around that time. 

2 hours ago, coco said:

It wasnt fair when Liverpool got away with a ghost goal in the semis and went on to win the CL in 05.

It was for the greater good. Imagine if it’d been disallowed and we went through in extra time or on penalties. The victimisation levels would go off the scale. 

And this could be the reaction of fans of one club. From that great day in 2005.
 

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