Seems Fulham bid £25m for the kid, which we rejected and are holding out for £35m.

 

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/sources-chelsea-reject-armando-broja-offer-from-major-premier-league-rival-clubs-10m-pounds-apart-valuation

19 minutes ago, Gonoir Beniashile said:

Seems Fulham bid £25m for the kid, which we rejected and are holding out for £35m.

 

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/sources-chelsea-reject-armando-broja-offer-from-major-premier-league-rival-clubs-10m-pounds-apart-valuation

Loan with buy obligation, which is what we want apparently so the funds come in, in the summer, along with Hall and likely Maatsen and Chalobah.

50 minutes ago, Gonoir Beniashile said:

Seems Fulham bid £25m for the kid, which we rejected and are holding out for £35m.

 

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/sources-chelsea-reject-armando-broja-offer-from-major-premier-league-rival-clubs-10m-pounds-apart-valuation

Yes, I saw that article also Gordon. As it says I think we will probably have to sell him to help stay on the right side of the PSR / FFP regulations. There does seem to be quite a bit of interest in him. He hasn't set the world alight since his return from injury but it is still very early days. His potential is clear to see IMO and at just 22 years old he has years of football ahead of him IF he is fully over the injury.

Edited January 28, 20242 yr by just

3 hours ago, jack_super_class said:

100% i still think he has huge potential, hes not playing well but i think its so harsh how many are turning on him. 

But the club want to sell him. It has been said by every single person involved in football and everyone commentating on the football environment that Chelsea desperately need a proven striker that knows where the goal is. With the club wishing to move him on, then it needs to happen soon and on his form it wouldn't take a lot to get better than him in through the door.

1 hour ago, WhiteWall said:

But the club want to sell him. It has been said by every single person involved in football and everyone commentating on the football environment that Chelsea desperately need a proven striker that knows where the goal is. With the club wishing to move him on, then it needs to happen soon and on his form it wouldn't take a lot to get better than him in through the door.

I dont think they are selling him because they dont rate his potential its because hes pure profit and they probably know they are getting Osimehn in the summer.

With Jackson looking better atm he can be the backup so Broja isnt needed.

2 hours ago, jack_super_class said:

I dont think they are selling him because they dont rate his potential its because hes pure profit and they probably know they are getting Osimehn in the summer.

Don't think it's fair to suggest it's about profit.

The fact he's got 3 goals in his last 58 for Chelsea and Southampton might have something to do with it as well.

15 hours ago, Whats_The_Mata? said:

Don't think it's fair to suggest it's about profit.

The fact he's got 3 goals in his last 58 for Chelsea and Southampton might have something to do with it as well.

Its not because most of our team is about potential and this guy has plenty of good attributes.

26 minutes ago, jack_super_class said:

Its not because most of our team is about potential and this guy has plenty of good attributes.

Think our "analysts" don't value him and don't see him reaching any potential that screams elite. 

Edited January 29, 20242 yr by Sconnie Blue

21 hours ago, just said:

Yes, I saw that article also Gordon. As it says I think we will probably have to sell him to help stay on the right side of the PSR / FFP regulations. There does seem to be quite a bit of interest in him. He hasn't set the world alight since his return from injury but it is still very early days. His potential is clear to see IMO and at just 22 years old he has years of football ahead of him IF he is fully over the injury.

My problem is that I can see him becoming a good player in time, just not at Chelsea.

We can't afford to keep giving game time to someone who's struggling to find their place. I think he's had many chances now and games just seem to pass him by. I don't think he's bollocks like Whats_The_Mata is suggesting who's always extremely hyperbolic about players. But I can't see him scoring more than 3 goals in the league if we were to start him from now until the end of the season, and that right there isn't good enough. 

It's best for both parties if he leaves. 

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Think our "analysts" don't value him and don't see him reaching any potential that screams elite. 

I disagree i just think we are getting Osimehn they is no place for him. Also given his bad injury might not be the same potential so cash in get a buyback and see how it goes.

5 hours ago, Victor90 said:

My problem is that I can see him becoming a good player in time, just not at Chelsea.

We can't afford to keep giving game time to someone who's struggling to find their place. I think he's had many chances now and games just seem to pass him by. I don't think he's bollocks like Whats_The_Mata is suggesting who's always extremely hyperbolic about players. But I can't see him scoring more than 3 goals in the league if we were to start him from now until the end of the season, and that right there isn't good enough. 

It's best for both parties if he leaves. 

Begs the question what exactly is your criteria of bollocks?

I just disagree he's got potential, for me he's a prime example of an untalented lower league journeyman and that's likely how he'll end up after flopping at his next club.  He's tall and he's apparently fast not that he ever makes a run to prove it but he hasn't shown any techical ability, work ethic, intelligence or a good attitude.

Had a look at a data driven report on his strengths and weaknesses

 https://www.whoscored.com/Players/393407/Show/Armando-Broja 

"Player has no significant strengths" 

Think it's telling how the fanbases of every club linked with him are unhappy at the prospect of signing him.

Edited January 29, 20242 yr by Whats_The_Mata?

6 hours ago, Victor90 said:

My problem is that I can see him becoming a good player in time, just not at Chelsea.

We can't afford to keep giving game time to someone who's struggling to find their place. I think he's had many chances now and games just seem to pass him by. I don't think he's bollocks like Whats_The_Mata is suggesting who's always extremely hyperbolic about players. But I can't see him scoring more than 3 goals in the league if we were to start him from now until the end of the season, and that right there isn't good enough. 

It's best for both parties if he leaves. 

You have been around while USA Tim was about right Vic? Remember how he was when Pulisic was our player?

Just reverse that with WTM. 

16 hours ago, Whats_The_Mata? said:

Begs the question what exactly is your criteria of bollocks?

I just disagree he's got potential, for me he's a prime example of an untalented lower league journeyman and that's likely how he'll end up after flopping at his next club.  He's tall and he's apparently fast not that he ever makes a run to prove it but he hasn't shown any techical ability, work ethic, intelligence or a good attitude.

Had a look at a data driven report on his strengths and weaknesses

 https://www.whoscored.com/Players/393407/Show/Armando-Broja 

"Player has no significant strengths" 

Think it's telling how the fanbases of every club linked with him are unhappy at the prospect of signing him.

I don't disagree with everything you say on Broja, but you talk about him and Madueke as if they are League Two players. I think Broja is a good player who's just not looked anywhere near as good since the injury. I think he can still become good, I just don't think we as a club can afford to give him the time he needs to progress. The club has to come first.  

15 hours ago, axman2526 said:

You have been around while USA Tim was about right Vic? Remember how he was when Pulisic was our player?

Just reverse that with WTM. 

I think a better example of that was HazardousChoice, who spoke about Pulisic as if he was a League Two player, and speaking of HazardousChoice... 

Does seem to be very, very similar to HazardousChoice @Victor90. Perhaps the same person?

Wolves said to be interested in Broja according to Romano.

Fulham and Wolves are working to get him. 

44 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Fulham and Wolves are working to get him. 

That is the speculation.

Both offered loans. Fulhams offer was better, had loan fee and full wages covered, but was just a buy option not obligation and only for 20mill.

Wolves offer was less than fulham and had no buy option.

Difficult to get 25M up front from the likes of Fulham and Wolves. They aren't stupid, they know his injury record, so pay as little as possible upfront and only pay up if he turns out to be good value. I don't think a pure loan does any good for anyone, if they want a taste, they must be willing to pay at the end.

Unfortunately, I hope he is sold as he isn’t good enough. If we can use that money to get a top quality target then I think the club should do it. To get £30-35m for him would be great business for a guy that has shown very little. 

Same trajectory and type of player as Solanke. The injury has been a major blow for him obviously but he's the type that could do with a season or 2 in the Championship.

On 29/01/2024 at 18:59, Whats_The_Mata? said:

Begs the question what exactly is your criteria of bollocks?

I just disagree he's got potential, for me he's a prime example of an untalented lower league journeyman and that's likely how he'll end up after flopping at his next club.  He's tall and he's apparently fast not that he ever makes a run to prove it but he hasn't shown any techical ability, work ethic, intelligence or a good attitude.

Had a look at a data driven report on his strengths and weaknesses

 https://www.whoscored.com/Players/393407/Show/Armando-Broja 

"Player has no significant strengths" 

Think it's telling how the fanbases of every club linked with him are unhappy at the prospect of signing him.

- Been at the same club since he was 8.

- Wanted by premier league clubs. 

 

So he's not a prime example of that?

4 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

- Been at the same club since he was 8.

- Wanted by premier league clubs. 

 

So he's not a prime example of that?

Wanted? We've not managed to get a bid other than a free loan for the fella yet and it's deadline day.

Clubs are cautious as It's not hard to see him going the way of Mceachran or Mancienne or Lewis Baker or any of the 1000s that spent a long time at top academies but never really got going at senior level and fell down the leagues.

5 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

- Been at the same club since he was 8.

- Wanted by premier league clubs. 

 

So he's not a prime example of that?

Hes a prime example of an untalented lower league journeyman in every way, other than you know, never actually playing in the lower league, only ever been contracted to one club and being talented. So amazingly the clueless tool managed to get it wrong in every single aspect of that sentence, very impressive.

4 minutes ago, dkw said:

Hes a prime example of an untalented lower league journeyman in every way, other than you know, never actually playing in the lower league, only ever been contracted to one club and being talented. So amazingly the clueless tool managed to get it wrong in every single aspect of that sentence, very impressive.

I'm still waiting on his list of talented youngsters we should have signed.

On 29/01/2024 at 18:59, Whats_The_Mata? said:

Begs the question what exactly is your criteria of bollocks?

I just disagree he's got potential, for me he's a prime example of an untalented lower league journeyman and that's likely how he'll end up after flopping at his next club.  He's tall and he's apparently fast not that he ever makes a run to prove it but he hasn't shown any techical ability, work ethic, intelligence or a good attitude.

Had a look at a data driven report on his strengths and weaknesses

 https://www.whoscored.com/Players/393407/Show/Armando-Broja 

"Player has no significant strengths" 

Think it's telling how the fanbases of every club linked with him are unhappy at the prospect of signing him.

That’s just bollocks though.

“Lower league journeyman “

😂😂