4 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

I know you’re asking Argo but my answer is hell no. Any FFP penalties is worth paying if it meant we kept Mount and Colwill. Chalobah too.

Agreed, was just curious as, out of everyone on here, Lukaku gets Argos goat more than anyone else.

On 24/05/2023 at 13:09, Argo said:

If he was anything like Drogba he wouldn't have left us the first time as he'd have seen Diego Costa arriving as a challenge not an excuse to run away to Everton.

So ironic Drogba is his idol, they couldn't be more different as players or professionals.

So true.

But WE were the ones who decided to pay a fortune and bring him back to Chelsea, despite everything we knew about him.  Slag him off all you like , but  this one  is on us, we created another expensive f**k up for ourselves 

On 24/05/2023 at 11:59, evissy said:

So why on earth did Marina and Roman seal the deal?

TT wanted the " final piece of the jigsaw"

On 24/05/2023 at 12:58, just said:

And there is the problem with Lukaku in a nutshell. He truly believes he is brilliant.

If he was even a quarter as good a player as HE thinks he is. He would be superstar. Unfortunately, he isn't anywhere near it. Drogba's shadow was better than Lukaku has EVER been.

Not only did HE think he was brilliant, so did Chelsea, otherwise we wouldn't have forked out almost £100 million for him.

 

 

 

I'm more annoyed with our club thanwith the player.  He didn't want to come here anyway, that was obvious,  he was only interested when we dangled his new wages in front of him whereupon he discovered he had " unfinished business" in England.  

Milan get a fortune , he's playing for them and it's as if they haven't even sold him !

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

TT wanted the " final piece of the jigsaw"

He also wanted Koulibaly, Sterling and Auba. His transfer record is...not great.

4 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

I'm more annoyed with our club thanwith the player.  He didn't want to come here anyway, that was obvious,  he was only interested when we dangled his new wages in front of him whereupon he discovered he had " unfinished business" in England.  

Milan get a fortune , he's playing for them and it's as if they haven't even sold him !

 

 

 

 

 

When you put it like that, its pretty sickening how this panned out.  A few months ago I was willing to open the door given our striker needs, but a few goals and his ego is right back.  He'd be toxic back at the club.  He needs to be sold permanently. 

4 hours ago, axman2526 said:

He also wanted Koulibaly, Sterling and Auba. His transfer record is...not great.

Tuchels Signings.

Bettinelli - Meh

Lukaku - FFS! A donkey and car crash of a signing

Saul - Better not call saul.

Raheem - Overpriced under achiever. A car crash of a signing

K2 - Overpriced washed up donkey. A car crash of a signing

Carney - Overpriced - but might come good.

Cucu - Overpriced. A car crash of a signing.

Wesley - Overpriced. But hopeful for the long term

Auba - FFS! Washed up. Doesnt try. A car crash of a signing.

Zakaria - Is he still with us? Not really done much, other than a run of 3 or 4 games where he looked average.

 

With Managers wanting players like this, who needs enemies....

 

 

 

1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

Carney - Overpriced - but might come good.

Overpriced? We could sell Carney for at least double what we paid for him right now if we wanted.

We know you hate Tuchel but come on.

As a matter of fact I think Casadei & Carney for £30 million total is two of the best deals we've made under this ownership.

4 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Overpriced? We could sell Carney for at least double what we paid for him right now if we wanted.

Then we should. Not seeing what many seem too (or want to out of desperation for there to be a top alternative to the underperformers) but more than happy to be wrong.

33 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Overpriced? We could sell Carney for at least double what we paid for him right now if we wanted.

We know you hate Tuchel but come on.

As a matter of fact I think Casadei & Carney for £30 million total is two of the best deals we've made under this ownership.

I don’t hate Tuchel - Although I hated the football he had us playing towards the end.

If we can double our money on Carney, then that would be some business, hat we should probably jump at.

Both he and Casadei are young players with big potential - So I do hope they come good. But to judge Tuchels transfers positively based on these 2, is blinkered.

Tuchels time at Chelsea in regards to transfers were an unmitigated disaster - even if we were to say Casadei and Carney have good futures

2 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Tuchels time at Chelsea in regards to transfers were an unmitigated disaster - even if we were to say Casadei and Carney have good futures

It's to early to conclude on that.

Unless you want to conclude on the back of this unmitigated disaster of a season but that would be unwise. Sterling for example who you are hammering got enough quality to turn his Chelsea-career around. And so does most of the other players you mentioned too.

If you want to go deeper the real problem was that Tuchel was allowed to sign players for one particular system only to be fired a week later. It's ridiculous to assume his signings would look as poor as they have been if they were allowed to play for the manager that signed them - in the short period he was allowed to use them both Sterling & Cucu looked quite good for example.

 

18 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Unless you want to conclude on the back of this unmitigated disaster of a season but that would be unwise

And just to expand on this one.

Because if you want to draw broad conclusions on this 1 season is isolation you also have to conclude that for example Mason Mount is indeed a very, very average football player, that Kovacic is a terrible midfielder and that Reece James is no more than an average rightback.

Few people would draw those conclusions on them on the back of this season. So if you aren't prepared to judge the three beforementioned down and out on the back of this season you should grant the likes of W.Fofana, Sterling and Cucurella the same grace as they too have proved to be top class Premier League players in previous years. 

3 hours ago, OriginalS said:

And just to expand on this one.

Because if you want to draw broad conclusions on this 1 season is isolation you also have to conclude that for example Mason Mount is indeed a very, very average football player, that Kovacic is a terrible midfielder and that Reece James is no more than an average rightback.

Few people would draw those conclusions on them on the back of this season. So if you aren't prepared to judge the three beforementioned down and out on the back of this season you should grant the likes of W.Fofana, Sterling and Cucurella the same grace as they too have proved to be top class Premier League players in previous years. 

Once they prove that they can play well, and perform consistently for us, then I will re-evaluate. At the moment, they have both been poor for us, and therefore, poor transfers.

Lots of media reports today that it is a 98% certainty Lukaku is coming back.

Reports also saying that we are putting the final touches to a new three year £1.4 million shirt sponsorship deal with "Greggs" the bakers

 

Never known a bloke to have such a hard on for a club he isn't even owned by and most of the fans don't even like him.

10 minutes ago, just said:

Lots of media reports today that it is a 98% certainty Lukaku is coming back.

Reports also saying that we are putting the final touches to a new three year £1.4 million shirt sponsorship deal with "Greggs" the bakers

 

Lukaku, who will be the face of the deal is rumoured to be getting paid in unlimited sausage rolls and chocolate chip cookies.

Shareholders in Creggs are concerned that the CEO has over stepped and the cookie deal may burst them.

3 minutes ago, goose said:

Lukaku, who will be the face of the deal is rumoured to be getting paid in unlimited sausage rolls and chocolate chip cookies.

Shareholders in Creggs are concerned that the CEO has over stepped and the cookie deal may burst them.

6 hours ago, just said:

Lots of media reports today that it is a 98% certainty Lukaku is coming back.

Reports also saying that we are putting the final touches to a new three year £1.4 million shirt sponsorship deal with "Greggs" the bakers

 

I hope they're wrong but if they're not let's hope the guy loses some weight...

Cannot see how he'll fit into the high press that Pooch likes to play... maybe they'll just leave him hanging around the edge of the 18 yd box on the goalie.

9 hours ago, Bebe1980 said:

I hope they're wrong but if they're not let's hope the guy loses some weight...

Cannot see how he'll fit into the high press that Pooch likes to play... maybe they'll just leave him hanging around the edge of the 18 yd box on the goalie.

I think he is almost back at his weight. Outran Atalanta defenders and scores last game. but I don’t know why he would come back. The only reason I see him staying if we can’t sign a decent striker to replace him. If we let him go on loan again without signing anyone people gonna start asking about Felix and Havertz role in the team.

Edited May 30, 20233 yr by Gcgoal2012

Think that on top of the opener last weekend we need to hope that he follows it up with a stormer and tears Man City's defenders a new one next week. Hopefully it will a) make Inter want him or b) make some other punter want him.

I think we'll be looking at cheaper options that fit Pochettino's system. Lukaku is inconsistent as a ST  

1 hour ago, enigma said:

I think we'll be looking at cheaper options that fit Pochettino's system. Lukaku is inconsistent as a ST  

In Tuchel system the attackers are liability. He needs a false 9. Havertz , Werner , Lukaku all not fit the system. Now with Bayer he got Lucky( Dortmund failed under pressure) with the win otherwise he got sacked already.

he is having the same scoring problem as in Chelsea. Sadio Mane(proven striker), Musiala, Sane, Choupo-Moting waste a lot of chances.

I saw Hlojund playing for 90 “min but he is not ready yet.

It is smart for us to make every effort to include Lukaku. If we don't Inter will come at us and be like clearly you don't want him, he only wants us, so if you want to shift this problem you pay us again...

45 minutes ago, Gcgoal2012 said:

In Tuchel system the attackers are liability. He needs a false 9. Havertz , Werner , Lukaku all not fit the system. Now with Bayer he got Lucky( Dortmund failed under pressure) with the win otherwise he got sacked already.

he is having the same scoring problem as in Chelsea. Sadio Mane(proven striker), Musiala, Sane, Choupo-Moting waste a lot of chances.

I saw Hlojund playing for 90 “min but he is not ready yet.

Market is bleak right now. 

Mitrovic is arguably looking the best option money for value.