I think yes we should take him. 
 

he is a proven goal scorer, has worked with tuchel, 

he just turned 33, so we could get 2 seasons out of him. 
 

We can’t rely on havertz and broja for the whole season 

He has a pi** poor attitude , would be on serious wages and when it starts to go belly up 

would sulk more than Lulu .. no thanks no Arse rejects here please ✌️

oh ffs!

My biggest question is. 

How is his pressing ability. Because we often play we high pressure of the entire team. 

Is he able to do this while he is on the pitch (even if it is for 60 min and then get subbed)? 

If so, then I'm not too worried with him as a solution for a year or 2 as he is a very complete player.

People say he is slowing down due to his age.

He still is very fast, maybe not in his absolute peak, but he'll outrun most of the defenders.

I think most people just look at the age and assume that he has now the pace of a 50 year old man. 

He surely has the experience. (with that comes playing smarter, good placement, knowing your strengths and weaknesses better)

He has always been a good header with a great and well timed jumping ability

Defenitely a killer. So I do not have any worries skillwise.

My only concerns are is he willing to work for the team and put a lot of pressure and maybe at a later stage his mentality. 

I'm sure that in the beginning he will give his 100% to make a statement, but what at a later stage or when he gets benched a bit more often.

Will he then cause havoc or be a professional. 

4 minutes ago, Night-T said:

My biggest question is. 

How is his pressing ability. Because we often play we high pressure of the entire team. 

Is he able to do this while he is on the pitch (even if it is for 60 min and then get subbed)? 

If so, then I'm not too worried with him as a solution for a year or 2 as he is a very complete player.

People say he is slowing down due to his age.

He still is very fast, maybe not in his absolute peak, but he'll outrun most of the defenders.

I think most people just look at the age and assume that he has now the pace of a 50 year old man. 

He surely has the experience. (with that comes playing smarter, good placement, knowing your strengths and weaknesses better)

He has always been a good header with a great and well timed jumping ability

Defenitely a killer. So I do not have any worries skillwise.

My only concerns are is he willing to work for the team and put a lot of pressure and maybe at a later stage his mentality. 

I'm sure that in the beginning he will give his 100% to make a statement, but what at a later stage or when he gets benched a bit more often.

Will he then cause havoc or be a professional. 

Well said Night-T. It is his pressing that will be the question. 

Regarding possession style  it worked out just fine at Barca who more or less invented the possession game. But that's a reasonable question to.

24 minutes ago, Night-T said:

My biggest question is. 

How is his pressing ability. Because we often play we high pressure of the entire team. 

Is he able to do this while he is on the pitch (even if it is for 60 min and then get subbed)? 

If so, then I'm not too worried with him as a solution for a year or 2 as he is a very complete player.

People say he is slowing down due to his age.

He still is very fast, maybe not in his absolute peak, but he'll outrun most of the defenders.

I think most people just look at the age and assume that he has now the pace of a 50 year old man. 

He surely has the experience. (with that comes playing smarter, good placement, knowing your strengths and weaknesses better)

He has always been a good header with a great and well timed jumping ability

Defenitely a killer. So I do not have any worries skillwise.

My only concerns are is he willing to work for the team and put a lot of pressure and maybe at a later stage his mentality. 

I'm sure that in the beginning he will give his 100% to make a statement, but what at a later stage or when he gets benched a bit more often.

Will he then cause havoc or be a professional. 

Fast players are great. 

Unfortunately we don't play to their strengths. 

We have fast players already, just look at Werner.  I see Auba in the same mold. Needs space in behind to flourish and make use of the pace.

11 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Fast players are great. 

Unfortunately we don't play to their strengths. 

We have fast players already, just look at Werner.  I see Auba in the same mold. Needs space in behind to flourish and make use of the pace.

Contrary to Werner, Auba has very good positioning / instinct combined with excellent finishing qualities. By default he isn't suited to Barca's system as well but still was able to score his goals. He's not solely relying on his 50-100m sprints, which I agree would be a massive no-go with his age, but is also very threatening with his short sprints within the box to beat his man and make a "simple" tap in. As a back-up I think he'd be very useful. 

Edited August 4, 20223 yr by weetee

1 hour ago, ducavis said:

Problem with this is Dortmund play a counter attack style of football, Arsenal under Arteta and the previous manager when he was highest scorer in the league play a counter attacking style of football. He is getting so much space to run behind in La Liga because teams don’t sit deep.

How is he meant to work when Tuchel insists on playing possession style of football, and has changed it this preseason. It would be a disaster; Depay I could stomach on the same 2-year deal + option for a further year, on the same wages he is on at Barca if they release him on a free.

spot on! & that is because the manager is putting pressure on him, and convinced him he can win the league if he gets the players he asks for. I just don’t see it when he has finished 19pts behind them in the last 2 seasons. If this goes wrong & blows up in our faces we are screwed big time. Fans moan about Marina sticking players on big wages, but this will be way worse as we are throwing bigger wages around. And unlike with Roman I just don’t see these guys throwing more money at it to rectify mistakes if it fails.

Well I'll eat my hat if we win the league; TT is having a larf if he thinks this team can (a) Make up the 19 points just to catch where City ended up last season (b) City have improved which will likely mean more points (c) He has to leap frog Larfapool in the process to get to City.  Unless these two have disastrous seasons, the very best we can hope for is 3rd place and maybe a bit of other Silverware if the pieces fall into place.  Even if we half the number of draws we had into wins gives us 10 points, we then have to win 3 / 6 games we lost to give us another 9....yeah, just don't see it unless we have literally an unbeaten season and only drop points with draws against Larfapool and City.  TT is in La la land and PEA is definitely not the answer.....unless he scores 6 against Arsenal 🤣🤣  

2 hours ago, Jezq8 said:

I think yes we should take him. 
 

he is a proven goal scorer, has worked with tuchel, 

he just turned 33, so we could get 2 seasons out of him. 
 

We can’t rely on havertz and broja for the whole season 

Hold on a 36yr old CB, a 31yr old CB, and a 33yr old FW in a PL played at rapid pace, where you need legs to press. 
What is our goal here? Then look at the 2 teams that finished above us & their 1st team. Conte bought a 33yr old Perisic (who many wanted here), & has been hooking him around the 60min mark because he doesn’t have the legs anymore. Presently, our 3 man defence has to be careful how they step up because a ball over the top will leave Thiago Silva exposed.

1 hour ago, weetee said:

Contrary to Werner, Auba has very good positioning / instinct combined with excellent finishing qualities. By default he isn't suited to Barca's system as well but still was able to score his goals. He's not solely relying on his 50-100m sprints, which I agree would be a massive no-go with his age, but is also very threatening with his short sprints within the box to beat his man and make a "simple" tap in. As a back-up I think he'd be very useful. 

Barca don’t play tik-taka anymore, and haven’t played that system in the last 3 seasons. Xavi relies on fast transitions, and getting the ball upfield quickly which is why Aubameyang has thrived. Those are 2 things we don’t do.

4 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Barca don’t play tik-taka anymore, and haven’t played that system in the last 3 seasons. Xavi relies on fast transitions, and getting the ball upfield quickly which is why Aubameyang has thrived. Those are 2 things we don’t do.

Hence the failure of Morata, Luakau and Werner...the fact that there are more balls found in row ZZZZZZ than the net might also suggest that they were poor at finishing which didn't help either

5 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Barca don’t play tik-taka anymore, and haven’t played that system in the last 3 seasons. Xavi relies on fast transitions, and getting the ball upfield quickly which is why Aubameyang has thrived. Those are 2 things we don’t do.

You make it sound as if they'd play Liverpool style, they don't. And if anybody was responsible to bring the ball quickly upfront it was mainly Dembele. Look at those goals and assists and tell me this is counter attacking style. I stand by my point: he still got the right instinct, positioning and speed to still beat his man in the box combined with the correct technique and coolness to finish those chances more often than not. 

 

 

 

if we would go for him i hope we have some build in damage limitations in the deal

- free transfer

- 1 year deal with optional 2nd year

- average wages with bonus incentives based on performance

- a clear understanding that he is not guaranteed to be the main striker and he has to compete to stay in the team 

Edited August 4, 20223 yr by azpi28

34 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Hold on a 36yr old CB, a 31yr old CB, and a 33yr old FW in a PL played at rapid pace, where you need legs to press. 
What is our goal here? Then look at the 2 teams that finished above us & their 1st team. Conte bought a 33yr old Perisic (who many wanted here), & has been hooking him around the 60min mark because he doesn’t have the legs anymore. Presently, our 3 man defence has to be careful how they step up because a ball over the top will leave Thiago Silva exposed.

For me, 

aubaymeyang would be used as rotation with whoever is upfront. I wouldn’t expect him to start every game. But I think he will be a good option to have. 
 

 

It is totalling galling to see us in this situation when we could have bought Jesus and Sterling in one swoop and sorted the forwards positions out at once. Jesus was the kind of striker that fitted us to a T . Very intelligent, exceptional work rated, good speed, and with a very good goal scoring sense in him, with ability to drop deep and play as a false 9 or interchange wings with Sterling. Instead we twiddled our thumbs and waited until Arsenal got him. Now we are looking for a old guy whose only grace as far as I am concerned is being coached by Tuchel before and who relies on quick transitions to succeed in a team that quick transitions are an anathema too. Is it not obvious that all strikers that failed in chelsea since the days of Torres all rely on quick transitions, and ball into space behind defenders? Countless number or times in that last two seasons have seen Werner and later Lukaku break into space.. the later pointing at where he wants to ball only for Jorginho et al to decide to pass the ball sideways? What as changed in the midfield to warrant adding another speedster? A lot of us on this site and others have said a creative midfielder is of utmost importance to the team but none seems to be on the horizon.. I daresay Lukaku and Werner would have had a far more successful careers had someone like Fabregas or Eriksen for that matter had been in our midfield. Tuchel needs to get his acts together please. This shambolic scattergun approach is becoming nauseous

 

12 minutes ago, d-one said:

It is totalling galling to see us in this situation when we could have bought Jesus and Sterling in one swoop and sorted the forwards positions out at once. Jesus was the kind of striker that fitted us to a T . Very intelligent, exceptional work rated, good speed, and with a very good goal scoring sense in him, with ability to drop deep and play as a false 9 or interchange wings with Sterling. Instead we twiddled our thumbs and waited until Arsenal got him. Now we are looking for a old guy whose only grace as far as I am concerned is being coached by Tuchel before and who relies on quick transitions to succeed in a team that quick transitions are an anathema too. Is it not obvious that all strikers that failed in chelsea since the days of Torres all rely on quick transitions, and ball into space behind defenders? Countless number or times in that last two seasons have seen Werner and later Lukaku break into space.. the later pointing at where he wants to ball only for Jorginho et al to decide to pass the ball sideways? What as changed in the midfield to warrant adding another speedster? A lot of us on this site and others have said a creative midfielder is of utmost importance to the team but none seems to be on the horizon.. I daresay Lukaku and Werner would have had a far more successful careers had someone like Fabregas or Eriksen for that matter had been in our midfield. Tuchel needs to get his acts together please. This shambolic scattergun approach is becoming nauseous

 

we just changed owners, give it some time and i'm sure we would change strategy to a less chaotic approach 

11 hours ago, azpi28 said:

cons

he has a bad attitude 

he does stupid celebrations

 

I will overlook ALL of the cons, if as a bare minimum, he scores both Home and Away against the Arsenal  !!

20 minutes ago, d-one said:

It is totalling galling to see us in this situation when we could have bought Jesus and Sterling in one swoop and sorted the forwards positions out at once. Jesus was the kind of striker that fitted us to a T . Very intelligent, exceptional work rated, good speed, and with a very good goal scoring sense in him, with ability to drop deep and play as a false 9 or interchange wings with Sterling. Instead we twiddled our thumbs and waited until Arsenal got him. Now we are looking for a old guy whose only grace as far as I am concerned is being coached by Tuchel before and who relies on quick transitions to succeed in a team that quick transitions are an anathema too. Is it not obvious that all strikers that failed in chelsea since the days of Torres all rely on quick transitions, and ball into space behind defenders? Countless number or times in that last two seasons have seen Werner and later Lukaku break into space.. the later pointing at where he wants to ball only for Jorginho et al to decide to pass the ball sideways? What as changed in the midfield to warrant adding another speedster? A lot of us on this site and others have said a creative midfielder is of utmost importance to the team but none seems to be on the horizon.. I daresay Lukaku and Werner would have had a far more successful careers had someone like Fabregas or Eriksen for that matter had been in our midfield. Tuchel needs to get his acts together please. This shambolic scattergun approach is becoming nauseous

 

Jesus never scored more than 14 premier league goals in one season for Citeh. I don't think auba is a long term solution and it may not work out even if we do get him but I personally am really glad Chelsea crossed Jesus off the list.

3 hours ago, hawkster said:

He has a pi** poor attitude , would be on serious wages and when it starts to go belly up 

would sulk more than Lulu .. no thanks no Arse rejects here please ✌️

Ashley Cole, Cesc Fabregas (and his magic hat) Olivier Giroud ???? I'd have them all again if it were possible !!

11 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Well these journos love to write about Chelsea and Barca. A real Romeo and Juliet story.

Romano and Juliet?

Ah so this is why the Alonso and Azpi to Barca deal is taking so long, we're trying to do a swap deal for Aubameyang, De Jong, Depay, and this guy called lever.

3 hours ago, hawkster said:

He has a pi** poor attitude , would be on serious wages and when it starts to go belly up 

would sulk more than Lulu .. no thanks no Arse rejects here please ✌️

False. Among those rejected by Arsenal: Yaya Toure, Ibrahimovic, Messi, Ronaldo, Kante, Van Persie, Fabregas, Ashley Cole, Serge Gnabry, Olivier Giroud are a very good crop of players. 

It's the crocked Arse players that you want to avoid

I don't mind this as long as it doesn't cost us an arm and a leg.  I think he could still do good job back in the EPL and he could actually be quite similar to what Eto'o did for us for a season, maybe even better.

Rather ronaldo. He was average with le arse but we need a forward

Not seeing any good sauces, My hotdog is...dry!

Would take him as long as he accepts he is nothing more than a substitute at this point and signs a 1 + 1 deal (next season optional). Could be a very good option to come from the bench.