2 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

He's never played counter attacking football and sat back though? Quite the opposite in fact, you're just saying what you want to hear. 

Sorry, he knows how to coach against teams that play a high line. He clearly has no idea how to break down a low block, hence why we've scored 29 goals this season. 

 

It's funny how people used to criticise Tuchel for being too defensive and not getting the best out of our attackers, when we were the 3rd highest scoring team in the league. Now we're the 13th highest scoring team in the league, with better attackers, yet Potter is hardly getting any stick in comparison.

1 minute ago, Drogba1 said:

Sorry, he knows how to coach against teams that play a high line. He clearly has no idea how to break down a low block, hence why we've scored 29 goals this season. 

 

It's funny how people used to criticise Tuchel for being too defensive and not getting the best out of our attackers, when we were the 3rd highest scoring team in the league. Now we're the 13th highest scoring team in the league, with better attackers, yet Potter is hardly getting any stick in comparison.

Utd had Maguire, they certainly weren't playing a high line when Brighton pumped 4 past them. 

11 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Potter has consistently beat bigger teams. Did the double over Arsenal in his first year at Brighton, consistently put 4 goals past Utd. 

You keep talking about the crime to 'build' the club. That was to balance books, look at their transfer history. You're making out like they spent 100's of millions on talent. They consistently spent nothing.

Still talking about individual games here.

Show me a full season that was so impressive from Potter that he should be managing us right now.

1 minute ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Utd had Maguire, they certainly weren't playing a high line when Brighton pumped 4 past them. 

They most certainly were playing a high line under Ten Hag, Harry Maguire just made it worse 

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18 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

You seem to have it out for managers who actually win. Odd. Arteta no good, Conte no good, Mourinho no good etc etc.

Coming from someone who repeatedly blamed Uefa Champions League winning footballers for Romelu Lukaku's incompetence.

You really cannot make it up sometimes 🤣

4 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Still talking about individual games here.

Show me a full season that was so impressive from Potter that he should be managing us right now.

Didn't you use a friendly against France (which Belgium even lost) as one of your main go to defenses with Lukaku?

10 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Still talking about individual games here.

Show me a full season that was so impressive from Potter that he should be managing us right now.

Taking Ostersund into European competition (regardless of some dodgy asset sales you keep mentioning that weren't even invested into the team), Consistently breaking records at Brighton for highest points and finishes. Whether Potter is the right man to take us forward is another discussion altogether, the point is replacing him with Nagelsmann isn't an upgrade worth risking.

Past achievements only tell a very small chapter of the story. Truth is some managers are made for the big clubs, some are not. There are tons of positive and negative examples to fit our own narrative. For example Gasperini turned Atalanta into one of the hottest clubs in Europe for the past 4-5 seasons, but before that he couldn't make Inter string two passes together or have a shot on target. 

Working for a huge club comes with having other attributes, too, like charisma, modern drills, modern tactics etc. You can't have Chelsea play the exact same football as a midtable club like Brighton and expect the squad to buy into your methods just because you took Brighton from 16th to 9th or because you took some average Swedish club to play European football.

 

19 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

They most certainly were playing a high line under Ten Hag, Harry Maguire just made it worse 

07/05/22. 4-0 Brighton v Utd.

Ten Haag became Utd manager the season after. 

39 minutes ago, petre ispirescu said:

Past achievements only tell a very small chapter of the story. Truth is some managers are made for the big clubs, some are not. There are tons of positive and negative examples to fit our own narrative. For example Gasperini turned Atalanta into one of the hottest clubs in Europe for the past 4-5 seasons, but before that he couldn't make Inter string two passes together or have a shot on target. 

Working for a huge club comes with having other attributes, too, like charisma, modern drills, modern tactics etc. You can't have Chelsea play the exact same football as a midtable club like Brighton and expect the squad to buy into your methods just because you took Brighton from 16th to 9th or because you took some average Swedish club to play European football.

 

Exactly, I feel like people just don't want to admit they were wrong about Potter at this point, rather than being objective about the situation

what hurts is that was not necessary a unbelieveble performance to reach to4 this season as several teams are inconsistent

hired potter was a mystake of huge proportions 

what a sh*t decision by our board 

our record in epl is abysmal. 

13 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Exactly, I feel like people just don't want to admit they were wrong about Potter at this point, rather than being objective about the situation

Were all those thousands of Arse fans wrong about Arteta ?

Miserably !

Hardly anyone says Potter is the right man, the majority are currently giving him time to prove he is or isn't, anyone that has made their mind up already one way or another are quite simply being unrealistic. Just like the Arse fans were last season.

Any posts that are not relevant to this thread will be deleted. 

Apparently the Bayern board weren’t convinced on Nagelsmaan’s coaching and believe player quality has been steering them thus far. 

2 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Apparently the Bayern board weren’t convinced on Nagelsmaan’s coaching and believe player quality has been steering them thus far. 

Yeah, Nagelsmann could be a risk for us. Personally I think player quality is the only reason we haven't been dragged into low mid table under Potter. 

 

Honestly, I'd look at Luis Enrique/Zidane/Flick as first choices, if not them then Pochettino/De Zerbi/Amorim/Nagelsmann 

5 hours ago, petre ispirescu said:

Past achievements only tell a very small chapter of the story. Truth is some managers are made for the big clubs, some are not. There are tons of positive and negative examples to fit our own narrative. For example Gasperini turned Atalanta into one of the hottest clubs in Europe for the past 4-5 seasons, but before that he couldn't make Inter string two passes together or have a shot on target. 

Working for a huge club comes with having other attributes, too, like charisma, modern drills, modern tactics etc. You can't have Chelsea play the exact same football as a midtable club like Brighton and expect the squad to buy into your methods just because you took Brighton from 16th to 9th or because you took some average Swedish club to play European football.

 

If we played the "exact same football as Brighton" I would be delighted 

9 hours ago, Mudders said:

We had a coach coveted by the top clubs and we can’t wait to rid of him. We are officially clown of all clubs. 
 

he was our best coach after Mourinho. 

Well stats will tel you that Avram Grant had the best win rate of any manager under Roman.

Anyway Tuchel wasn't sacked because of football on the pitch , even though it was f**king awful.

7 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

How many top Premier League teams did Ostersund beat exactly?

Every single one they've played?

1 hour ago, The Rising Sun said:

Every single one they've played?

And moreover, Ostersunds have beaten more top half PL teams than Potter's Chelsea !

Go Ostersunds ! LOL

Yall have to give Potter this at least, is some achievement by him to be more disliked on The Shed End than Rafa was...

4 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Yall have to give Potter this at least, is some achievement by him to be more disliked on The Shed End than Rafa was...

Rafa finished 3rd and won the Europa League, whilst also getting 22 goals out of a finished Fernando Torres. He wasn't popular here because of what he said at Liverpool but he objectively did a decent job for us.

 

Potter has us 10th on goal difference going into April after spending 600m. If anything we've held him to a lower standard than any other Chelsea manager, Roman would've sacked him 10 times over by now

1 minute ago, Drogba1 said:

Rafa finished 3rd and won the Europa League, whilst also getting 22 goals out of a finished Fernando Torres. He wasn't popular here because of what he said at Liverpool but he objectively did a decent job for us.

 

Potter has us 10th on goal difference going into April after spending 600m. If anything we've held him to a lower standard than any other Chelsea manager, Roman would've sacked him 10 times over by now

Ah don't go acting all Rafa with "facts" here drogs  😉

6 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Yall have to give Potter this at least, is some achievement by him to be more disliked on The Shed End than Rafa was...

Amusing take, albeit in reality it's practically impossible to dislike Potter ... I think most people like him, but are simply incredulous that (a) he was appointed in the first place ... and (b) that he is still here after a dismal first 6 months !

6 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Rafa finished 3rd and won the Europa League, whilst also getting 22 goals out of a finished Fernando Torres. He wasn't popular here because of what he said at Liverpool but he objectively did a decent job for us.

 

Potter has us 10th on goal difference going into April after spending 600m. If anything we've held him to a lower standard than any other Chelsea manager, Roman would've sacked him 10 times over by now

Rafa walked into a club that was stable,  JT, Lampard, etc.

He hadn't lost players to transfers, the owner hadn't sacked the staff running the club, or sacked the medical staff in the middle of our biggest ever injury crisis.

He also had the best keeper ever to play for our club in goal and not the expensive disaster we have now.

I'm as unhappy as you about the state we are in, we are not that much better than we were under TT's horror start to this season, the club seem disjointed, record spending on players that Potter seemingly had no say in only adds to the confusion.

I don't know what the answer is, I don't care about Todd's feelings or Potter's reputation, but I do care about our club. 

We live in hope !😁😁😁

 

 

 

 

Todd is grooming Potter to be the next Pep and Arteta. Just watch.