On 13/03/2024 at 21:03, icecoolguy22 said:

Think the ex-Forest manager was right on the money, why would they ( a struggling team) helps Chelsea to develop a young player?  If he's one of their own, sure they will take a few chances and help him to progress

Yeah but see what I don't understand with these loans, is it the club or loanee club that pushes for the move. 

If Forest did which I always thought then surely they didn't need to ask for the loan if they are of that mindset. 

I know sometimes the clubs will look for a team to send their players too for a chance at developing but not sure the dynamic these days.... 

Starts again. Seems like he at long last gets a run of games

Two successive starts for Santos .. and two successive wins for Strasbourg !

He's done well in both games and especially so considering how few minutes he's played this season.

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

Two successive starts for Santos .. and two successive wins for Strasbourg !

He's done well in both games and especially so considering how few minutes he's played this season.

He does seem to have some talent, so does Casadei. 

3 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

He does seem to have some talent, so does Casadei. 

Some, talent axman?

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

Some, talent axman?

Well we ain't seen much of him to say more really.

 

BTW the partnership between you and Rice seems to be going good, fancy you will get a winners medal?

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

Two successive starts for Santos .. and two successive wins for Strasbourg !

He's done well in both games and especially so considering how few minutes he's played this season.

Wonder why he wasn't picked earlier. 

They've been playing awfully and Santos only got called up when there was a bunch of injuries.  

41 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Wonder why he wasn't picked earlier. 

They've been playing awfully and Santos only got called up when there was a bunch of injuries.  

Probably just getting up to speed with the new club, system, fitness etc etc

3 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Well we ain't seen much of him to say more really.

 

BTW the partnership between you and Rice seems to be going good, fancy you will get a winners medal?

Can't even beat washed City away, not good enough to win anything.

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

Can't even beat washed City away, not good enough to win anything.

Still got the CL to fight for, chin up ;)

Let's end the day on a positive note.

A third successive start and excellent performance from Andrey today ... Strasbourg unbeaten when he starts !

He has now moved up to 2nd in their squad on the season Whoscored average rating ... small game sample granted, but encouraging all the same, and doubly commendable after the fiasco of his Forest loan.

Edited April 7, 20242 yr by Sexyfootball

He'll be a regular next season along with Kepa, Lukaku, Ziyech, Hall, Angelo, Fofana and Maatsen!

Apparently he just won the Ligue 1 young player of the month award. Sounds like this loan is doing a good job of rebuilding his confidence.

Playing in a midfield 2 in a back 5. 

1 hour ago, forbzy said:

Apparently he just won the Ligue 1 young player of the month award. Sounds like this loan is doing a good job of rebuilding his confidence.

Aye he did:

 

https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2024/4/11/24127589/chelsea-loanee-andrey-santos-wins-ligue-1-young-player-of-the-month-award-for-march

Maybe had Steve Cooper realised he is vastly more talented that the midfielders Forest have he would still be in a job and Forest not so close to going down.

Where's he operating for Strasbourg?

As a 6 or more or a box to box 8? Surely stays with the squad next season.

Lavia / Ugochukwu / Caicedo / Enzo / Andrey

1 hour ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Where's he operating for Strasbourg?

As a 6 or more or a box to box 8? Surely stays with the squad next season.

Lavia / Ugochukwu / Caicedo / Enzo / Andrey

Needs another season of regular football on loan at Strasbourg. 

38 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Needs another season of regular football on loan at Strasbourg. 

We've played the entire season with no suitable backup to Enzo/Caicedo and Gallagher is likely to be sold. Plenty of minutes available at Chelsea and saves us wasting even more money on some other youngster that will need a season or two to integrate. 

23 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

We've played the entire season with no suitable backup to Enzo/Caicedo and Gallagher is likely to be sold. Plenty of minutes available at Chelsea and saves us wasting even more money on some other youngster that will need a season or two to integrate. 

Doesn’t have to a youngster though; we could pick up a midfield presence on a bosman on a 2yr deal to add much needed experience. One of  Rabiot, Zielinski, Ndidi or  Idrissa Gueye can be added into the mix, while he develops on loan.

Personally would prefer us exploring free transfer market to add experience in certain positions, and spending big on either a CF or a CB.

1 hour ago, ducavis said:

Doesn’t have to a youngster though; we could pick up a midfield presence on a bosman on a 2yr deal to add much needed experience. One of  Rabiot, Zielinski, Ndidi or  Idrissa Gueye can be added into the mix, while he develops on loan.

Personally would prefer us exploring free transfer market to add experience in certain positions, and spending big on either a CF or a CB.

I'd like Joshua Kimmich. 29, relationship at Bayern souring. One year left so not a free but hopefully doable. Would add real structure, strength and discipline, and allow all of them to develop, Lavia, Ugo and Santos, for a couple of years.

Pipe dream, never happen in a million years.

3 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

I'd like Joshua Kimmich. 29, relationship at Bayern souring. One year left so not a free but hopefully doable. Would add real structure, strength and discipline, and allow all of them to develop, Lavia, Ugo and Santos, for a couple of years.

Pipe dream, never happen in a million years.

Tbh I'd take a 34 year old Kroos over Kimmich. 

Kimmich and Goeretzka have regressed immensely. 

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

Tbh I'd take a 34 year old Kroos over Kimmich. 

Kimmich and Goeretzka have regressed immensely. 

Worse than Caicedo and Enzo have? Really?

2 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

Worse than Caicedo and Enzo have? Really?

Yeah they've been shocking. Much of it could be down to Tuchel so who knows, given this is the same man that said no to Tchouameni, thought Gallagher in a pivot was a good idea and wanted to bring in McTominey to replace Kimmich. 

11 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Yeah they've been shocking. Much of it could be down to Tuchel so who knows, given this is the same man that said no to Tchouameni, thought Gallagher in a pivot was a good idea and wanted to bring in McTominey to replace Kimmich. 

Its a fair point, hence why i think Kimmich is possibly gettable. He has seriously fallen out with Tuchel and may be ready to bail altogether, even with a new guy going in there.

4 hours ago, ducavis said:

Doesn’t have to a youngster though; we could pick up a midfield presence on a bosman on a 2yr deal to add much needed experience. One of  Rabiot, Zielinski, Ndidi or  Idrissa Gueye can be added into the mix, while he develops on loan.

Personally would prefer us exploring free transfer market to add experience in certain positions, and spending big on either a CF or a CB.

Oh absolutely i'd love some experience in the team, it was suicide going into this season with T.Silva and Sterling as our only players with experience that can last a season.

I was just playing devils advocate as i couldn't see Clearlake willing to sign anyone old enough to grow armpit hair.