Sadly I think it's probably time to call Enzo a flop. He had his moments and seemed to be picking up some form last year, but not nearly enough to justify even half of his price tag. I just don't know what he brings exactly. If you watch him during our build-ups he just disappears. When he drops down to help with build-up all he does is slow us down. If he plays further up he doesn't do much to affect our attacks, he can't do even 10% of what Palmer does.

If he'd cost 50 mill I think we would probably say he's just average, but given what he cost you expect much more.

Short term I think he should be benched, and if Lavia is fit then play him, if not I'd rather see more of Santos. Long term I think we should try to sell him to La Liga or Serie A which would be more suited for him, but forget about recouping most of the money. It wouldn't be the worst thing to keep him if we can work something out but he needs Lavia behind him or a change in the system.

I see you Enzo.

Just now, GarnachoCheese said:

I see you Enzo.

What’s that

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

What’s that

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I would like to see Lavia start ahead of Enzo against Spuds, but it won't happen.

It bugs me that a player who got touted as some hybrid of Modric/Xavi/Kroos/Pirlo can't dribble the ball 2 metres without tripping over himself

I still can't reconcile in my head how Fernandez is somehow a technical luxury player just not cut out for English football but also moments like the above seem to suggest his technical ability is somewhere between Jonjo Shelvey and Duncan Ferguson

I'd say he's similar to James Rodriguez due to the fact he got a big move off the back of a World Cup campaign as a youngster, but Rodriguez actually had multiple world class seasons to his name.

Somehow managed to be one of the only disappointments (other being Neto, who appeared gassed) in a dominant win over Spurs.

Lost count of how many times he tripped over himself on the ball (again), underweighted passes or straight out ignored his teammates. Made good runs to allow Garnacho space but that is all he offered.

1 minute ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Somehow managed to be one of the only disappointments (other being Neto, who appeared gassed) in a dominant win over Spurs.

Lost count of how many times he tripped over himself on the ball (again), underweighted passes or straight out ignored his teammates. Made good runs to allow Garnacho space but that is all he offered.

I think we need to invent another hernia to sort out to try and explain his current levels and protect his potential transfer fee !

26 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

I think we need to invent another hernia to sort out to try and explain his current levels and protect his potential transfer fee !

But he was rated a 7.00 on Whoscored for today's performance against Tottenham. That's 646.79% x 6 >10 higher than Jackson atm.

14 minutes ago, just said:

But he was rated a 7.00 on Whoscored for today's performance against Tottenham. That's 646.79% x 6 >10 higher than Jackson atm.

I'd suggest you have a Zoom call with NNNJ to discuss further !

3 hours ago, just said:

But he was rated a 7.00 on Whoscored for today's performance against Tottenham. That's 646.79% x 6 >10 higher than Jackson atm.

And therein lies the problem. Hopefully if he ever does have suitors, they’ll do what our SD’s do, and not actually ‘watch’ him play.

I think criticisms are fair but he would've had 2 assists and made a couple of plays that would result in goals.

He's the resident scapegoat so he'll get trashed on even when he plays brilliant

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53 minutes ago, Deino said:

I think criticisms are fair but he would've had 2 assists and made a couple of plays that would result in goals.

He's the resident scapegoat so he'll get trashed on even when he plays brilliant

He is always a top performer in big matches and the bigger the occassion and the bigger the intensity, he always delivers. Yesterday against Spurs he was again very good.

I wouldn’t say very good but he wasn’t bad at all. Just okay, I think the 7 rating quoted above is about correct tbh.

As mentioned already he should have got at least 1 assist so it’s hard to fault him too much when he’s done his job.

7 hours ago, Deino said:

I think criticisms are fair but he would've had 2 assists and made a couple of plays that would result in goals.

He's the resident scapegoat so he'll get trashed on even when he plays brilliant

That’ll be nice, let me know when it happens.

6 hours ago, petre ispirescu said:

He is always a top performer in big matches and the bigger the occassion and the bigger the intensity, he always delivers. Yesterday against Spurs he was again very good.

I recommend watching the matches, not just the highlights.

39 minutes ago, GarnachoCheese said:

That’ll be nice, let me know when it happens.

Be nice ... he's only played 129 games ... still time !

I genuinely thought watching Jorginho's performances for us was the ultimate example of a player looking out of his depth and managing to milk a career out of the occasional good pass to break up 88 minutes lf being a passenger. Also being supported by a handful of seemingly obsessed fans who followed him rather than the club he played for.

Imagine my horror when, in next to no time, I find a Chelsea player who ticks those boxes even more!

How the f**k can anyone watch his performances and think he brings anything positive to the team?

It's not his fault he got signed for massive money. It's not his fault he gets picked. So I don't hold a grudge against him

He is just, from a talent perspective, hideously far away from being a player that will ever offer anything consistently good. We need to bin him as soon as we can.

We know he is pony in midfield and at #10 ... maybe try him at centre back ?

At the very least, we'll be able to have one consistent selection in defence LOL

10 minutes ago, loz said:

I genuinely thought watching Jorginho's performances for us was the ultimate example of a player looking out of his depth and managing to milk a career out of the occasional good pass to break up 88 minutes lf being a passenger. Also being supported by a handful of seemingly obsessed fans who followed him rather than the club he played for.

Imagine my horror when, in next to no time, I find a Chelsea player who ticks those boxes even more!

How the f**k can anyone watch his performances and think he brings anything positive to the team?

It's not his fault he got signed for massive money. It's not his fault he gets picked. So I don't hold a grudge against him

He is just, from a talent perspective, hideously far away from being a player that will ever offer anything consistently good. We need to bin him as soon as we can.

It's not really about supporting Enzo as much as people are misguided contrarians. They picked a 'side' early on and feel compelled to justify it.

It's pretty obvious on other social media where the majority of Enzo's support is from Americans who also uncritically support the new ownership. Enzo was BlueCo's first 'statement signing' and is emblematic of the new ownership, so any criticism of Fernandez is indirectly criticising BlueCo too.

3 minutes ago, SydneyChelsea said:

It's not really about supporting Enzo as much as people are misguided contrarians. They picked a 'side' early on and feel compelled to justify it.

It's pretty obvious on other social media where the majority of Enzo's support is from Americans who also uncritically support the new ownership. Enzo was BlueCo's first 'statement signing' and is emblematic of the new ownership, so any criticism of Fernandez is indirectly criticising BlueCo too.

Thank god I picked the right side in hating Enzo squared and Clearlake early doors. Could have been embarrassing if I had to pretend he was good now.

4 minutes ago, GarnachoCheese said:

Thank god I picked the right side in hating Enzo squared and Clearlake early doors. Could have been embarrassing if I had to pretend he was good now.

I don't hate the fella. Never met him! Could well be a right laugh in the pub. Maybe gives money to the blind, likes dogs, puts on street carnivals and always asks after your mah!

Just think he is a bang average footballer who needs more time and space than a Tardis can deliver before he impresses on a football pitch.

6 minutes ago, loz said:

I don't hate the fella. Never met him! Could well be a right laugh in the pub. Maybe gives money to the blind, likes dogs, puts on street carnivals and always asks after your mah!

He was happy to turn a blind eye to xenophobia and he abandoned his wife and kids first chance he got because it was "too hard"

If he can't have a backbone off the pitch, he sure as hell won't have one on it.

Abysmal when he came on. An insult to Santos to sub him off for Enzo.