12 hours ago, bisright1 said:

 You assume Potter won't get a full team of players that he trusts winning games. But you can't know that. I want to know that before we spend a sh*t tonne of money and damage our reputation on sacking him. 

His best Brighton team are midtable at best. Why would anyone with title aspirations want to play for him? 

13 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Nope give him more time. Sack him and we end up with someone like Pochettino.

We currently have an injury crisis unlike any club has ever seen before. A new medical department if more important. Give any manager this team without Reece, Chilly and Kante and they'll struggle. 

Or God forbid Jesse Marsch, to put us well and truly into Ted Lasso world

No, give him more time.

Sack / Get rid of / kick out all the dead wood / free loaders / all the arse holes that don't give a sh*t and are happy to pick up their ridiculous wages.

1 hour ago, WhiteWall said:

Or God forbid Jesse Marsch, to put us well and truly into Ted Lasso world

Christ no 😂😂

My mate sent me this text make of it what you want if it doesn't happen don't start giving me a hard time I'm going to post it verbatim.

My company do a lot of computer analytics work at Chelsea and yesterday we were asked by senior management to prepare an analysis pack on the team's individual performance since Potter arrived. We are presenting it on Monday they only ever ask us to do this when they are sacking someone.

However many times I am asked, the answer will be the same.

He took over a team that is rotten to the core; and has been stagnating for a long time. It has been hidden by cup wins, but it doesn’t change the fact that the downward spiral has been there for ages.

At least 10 senior squad members need to go. Azpi, K2, Jorgi, Puli, Ziyech, RLC, Kepa, Mendy, Kante and Kai can all be moved on.

Kova, Trevor, Mount and Sterling are all on final written warnings as well.

James and Chilly might need replacing as well if they can’t be relied upon to stay fit. 
 

If potter still struggles once they are all replaced - then I will be bang up for replacing him. But until then, I am not sure replacing will change a thing.

In a way I hope what you're saying is true. The problem, as some on here have already said, is that Boehly can't be trusted not to bring in Jesse Marsh or someone even more hopeless than GP. That, and the money it'll cost the club to get rid of him. We've already going to lose a shed-load (sorry!) not playing CL next season. Does Boehly even know what that would mean? For Chelsea FC, for f---'s s---? 'Soccer-ball? Sure, I know all about soccer-ball....'. He will get it when he sees the drop in revenue - all that matters to him. Surely no one really believes we haven't got some first-rate players in the squad right now (some dead wood and lousy performers notwithstanding)? But we stand to lose them at that moment. And for us supporters it's already hurting in very different ways. And what if we end up looking relegation in the face? Quite an achievement for the new owners, new manager, new everything - new 'culture', new 'long-term approach', fantasies about all-star leagues and feeder-clubs and all the rest. Sure we needed some of that long-term thinking, smarter loans thinking, academy-thinking (but look at the 1st-team players now who came through it, so it wasn't as bad as all that). And sure TT was looking (because he was told to, by a different owner remember) to success now and in the season to come. But where were we when he was sacked? 6th? Just a few games in? I know where I'd rather be today..... This was always going to happen the minute Boehly got his hands on the club and sacked TT, for an under-achieving mid-table 'man-manager', great at the consoling chat after losses apparently (wonder why he's so good at that?) A shoo-in for Southgate's job, maybe, but Chelsea? Pul-leese, as Boehly would say. Our players know what they're doing, just put them in the positions on the pitch where they do it best (something Potter has consistently refused to do, tnkering around with them instead) and let them go. I dread to think of how bad it's got to get before anything changes. 

58 minutes ago, bluehaze said:

My mate sent me this text make of it what you want if it doesn't happen don't start giving me a hard time I'm going to post it verbatim.

My company do a lot of computer analytics work at Chelsea and yesterday we were asked by senior management to prepare an analysis pack on the team's individual performance since Potter arrived. We are presenting it on Monday they only ever ask us to do this when they are sacking someone.

Do an honest work and do your best, good luck my friend

40 minutes ago, Myheartisblue said:

This was always going to happen the minute Boehly got his hands on the club and sacked TT, for an under-achieving mid-table 'man-manager', 

But that's not what happened, sacking Tuchel and hiring Potter aren't mutually exclusive, there is no correlation between the 2.

With reports that Boehly and co are looking to shift a load of players out in the summer I'd say Potter is going to be backed for the foreseeable. It's about time a stand was taken against the player power that has been ingrained into this club.

Anyone who is backing the players over the manager here needs to remember that these lot also downed tools for Tuchel. Sure we could sack Potter, but these players will turn on his replacement at the drop of a hat and this thread will be made once again with a different manager's name within 18 months.

Edited January 14, 20233 yr by timetowaste

2 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

 

Anyone who is backing the players over the manager here needs to remember that these lot also downed tools for Tuchel. Sure we could sack Potter, but these players will turn on his replacement at the drop of a hat.

Fair point. I don't think they have any motivation to work for Potter though - the assumption has to be that he was/is only temporary, so what would be the point? I was trying to say that there's a real difference in quality between TT and GP, as managers - tacticians, motivators etc. Tuchel's got it, Potter, to my mind, just hasn't. Tinkers and talks a good consoling melancholy talk when it goes wrong. Something went wrong for Tuchel - look at what was happening around him, and in his personal life too apparently - but that's not the same as not having it in the first place. I hope I'm proved wrong, and it looks liked Boehly's going to give him plenty of time to do that, I agree. More's the pity. 

13 hours ago, TimesUpPotter said:

I don't get comments like this given Pochettino is indisputably a better manager than Potter and our injury prone squad have just brought Potter the best 19 game run of results of his career in English football, at no point in his Brighton career did Potter win 8 out of 19 games. 

I'm not sure if it's the consistent PR he gets from his mates in the media but I feel Like a lot of people feel Potters record is a lot a better than it is.

What concerns me is with Villa winning today they're now level on points with us, Unai Emery took over in November and has won more than half his games seeing Villa rise up the table.  He's not had time or a window and his squad is dogsh*t but like Poch he's indisputably a better manager than Potter, their records show it so I wouldn't expect us to be able to compete with Villa this season or next season because their coach is a couple tiers above ours.

It's not like replacing prime Jose or Tuchel it's actually hard to find a manager in the premier league with a worse record than Potter.

He was managing Brighton, winning untold amount of games would have been unheard of. 

Potter is the man to take us forward, these short term glory fans won't stop that.

Edited January 14, 20233 yr by RIP Mourinho

16 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

He was managing Brighton, winning untold amount of games would have been unheard of. 

Potter is the man to take us forward, these short term glory fans won't stop that.

There is absolutely no evidence of Potter being the man to take us forward, 0. 

7 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

There is absolutely no evidence of Potter being the man to take us forward, 0. 

Took Ostersund to European football even beating Arsenal, built a shocking Brighton squad into a team that now challenges to European spots. If anything he's shown in his career he's exactly the man to help us rebuild, even if that's just for a couple of years until another manager comes in and takes over. 

The club will look like mugs if they sack him. All this talk of long term and sack him 4 months in. Why would any other manager believe us?

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Took Ostersund to European football even beating Arsenal, built a shocking Brighton squad into a team that now challenges to European spots. If anything he's shown in his career he's exactly the man to help us rebuild, even if that's just for a couple of years until another manager comes in and takes over. 

Like I said, 0.

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

There is absolutely no evidence of Potter being the man to take us forward, 0. 

If he is the manager who finally gets Jorginho out of the team - then as a minimum that will be a +1

9 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Like I said, 0.

I just gave you a couple of examples of why he's perfect for the rebuild, i know it's hard for you to grasp ideas sometimes though so i won't try. 

Out of curiosity, who do you want in charge?

2 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

I just gave you a couple of examples of why he's perfect for the rebuild, i know it's hard for you to grasp ideas sometimes though so i won't try. 

Out of curiosity, who do you want in charge?

Those weren't examples you just re-told his whole history which is something that everyone knows already and it doesn't mean sh*t.

8 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

If he is the manager who finally gets Jorginho out of the team - then as a minimum that will be a +1

Unfortunately for you, Jorginho is set to leave for free once his contract expires, unlike Timo that got sold as the flop he was.

13 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Those weren't examples you just re-told his whole history which is something that everyone knows already and it doesn't mean sh*t.

Answer the question.

His history is quite literally an example, what are you expecting lmao

Edited January 14, 20233 yr by RIP Mourinho

12 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Unfortunately for you, Jorginho is set to leave for free once his contract expires, unlike Timo that got sold as the flop he was.

Jorginho leaving for a free because no one wants to spend money on him lmao 

Should never have sacked Tuchel.

Now we're in a right pickle, well done new owners this is on you. 

9 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Answer the question.

His history is quite literally an example, what are you expecting lmao

His whole career is the example why he is going push us forward?

9 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Jorginho leaving for a free because no one wants to spend money on him lmao 

Why would they pay when they can get him for free in less than half a season...? You're epic mate!