1 hour ago, Whats_The_Mata? said:

I don't get the Carney hype.

Has he even had a single good game in his career?

He's had moments but he's very much another kid who's shown nothing to suggest he's good enough in a team full of them.

1 or 2 of these kids in the squad is fine,  gives people excitement and if they struggle like usual the experienced quality usually steps up but we don't have the quality he's looked as lost as all our other young players for most his time here.

Carney wasn't even looking that great but he scored a goal and the hype train soon came. Chelsea fans haven't had much to cheer for from the 50 new signings and scoring being a problem so scoring a goal might be worthy of some hype 😂

9 minutes ago, Amputechture said:

Some have had it in for him from the very moment he joined. That much is obvious. They couldn't wait to see the back of him even if it meant we were no longer challenging for anything.

And the main reason for that was because he replaced Lampard, who went on to nearly get Everton relegated for the first time in 104 years, if it wasn't for Dyche rescuing them. Roman 100% made the right decision in sacking him, yet he was villified for it. 

6 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

I can kind of see where he is coming from, there were a few times in the game where I thought there were one too many players on the right side of the attack and Gusto should have probably been playing a bit deeper. However, I don't think that was our biggest problem.

Our biggest problem at the moment is a lack of obvious goalscorers. That has been pretty clear even since pre-season once Nkunku got injured. Instead of bringing in an another striker with some experience, we signed a bunch more young players with 'potential' in positions where they weren't needed. So now our best hope is that we can find a source of a few goals for next couple of months until the likes of Nkunku return, and then hope that these key players stay fit and free of injury. Short term it doesn't look promising at all.

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

I know we drew 0-0 but am sure someone will post how amazing our stats are so far this season, how we are bossing xg and are right up their with Arsenal and City because of that and that is all tht really matters, right?

My favourite part of the week, all that matters to me

A loser is a loser is a loser 

7 minutes ago, forbzy said:

Our biggest problem at the moment is a lack of obvious goalscorers. That has been pretty clear even since pre-season once Nkunku got injured. Instead of bringing in an another striker with some experience, we signed a bunch more young players with 'potential' in positions where they weren't needed. So now our best hope is that we can find a source of a few goals for next couple of months until the likes of Nkunku return, and then hope that these key players stay fit and free of injury. Short term it doesn't look promising at all.

A proven goal scorer would not score in this Team at the moment as there is no chemistry. Halaand would not get any goals with this team currently until there start to be a some form of  cohesion. Fans underestimate how important knowing your teammates and having a good understanding.

5 games played, 5 goals scored, 5 goals conceded, points gained.

Potter - relegation form.

Lampard - Relegation form.

Pochettino- relegation for. 

 

3 different managers, same way of playing, same useless attacking play and lack of goals.

Is it the managers, or the people picking the managers and players to sign, to blame?

Poch - loser at Southampton

Poch - loser at Spurs

Posh - loser at PSG

Post - ....

Just now, Gonoir Beniashile said:

Poch - loser at Southampton

Poch - loser at Spurs

Posh - loser at PSG

Post - ....

Are we about to see a TimesUpPoch account? 😂

Just now, Drogba1 said:

Are we about to see a TimesUpPoch account? 😂

f**k knows mate.

Just haven't a clue what this loser is doing at my club 

11 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Potter - relegation form.

Lampard - Relegation form.

Pochettino- relegation for. 

Then maybe, just maybe, the manager isn’t the issue.

We should’ve stuck it out with Bruno for a bit, at least he had a better record in games!

 

1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

I have no idea what Pochettino is even talking about here. I can't make sense of it.

Worried about counters it sounds like to me. It's a very Jose-esque quote to me and I not one I understand when there's literally 3 CB's on the pitch already.
I assume it's aimed at Gusto who overlapped and tried to attack on a few occasions today and left some room behind him by doing so but either he's been left behind in footballs rapid developement or there is some other reason but I don't get it either way.

Been a disasterous start for Poch.

25 minutes ago, Modueke said:

Then maybe, just maybe, the manager isn’t the issue.

We should’ve stuck it out with Bruno for a bit, at least he had a better record in games!

 

I will say before the rest I want Pochettino to be give time, any manager deserves that chance. At least till the new year and assess where we are.

 

I will also sat I don't believe he has what it takes and there will be multiple calls from even sensible posters on here for him to be sacked in the second half of the season.

He is not a Jose, Carlo, a motivated Conte or a Tuchel. He does not have that something special to make average players look amazing, and he has been lumbered with average to sh*t players and no striker worth the name, except a possibly handicapped Broja.

Time to make tough choices because this simply is not working.  To me that includes starting more attacking players, and benching some of the players that simply slow us down.  I'll get flamed for this, but Silva and Gallagher are too slow and see too much of the ball to dictate our tempo.  Enzo should be deeper where Gallagher is playing, and attackers with pace should be in the no.10 role.

Seriously, how can a group of people spend so much time together and be so bad.  I actually can't get my head around just how pathetic this team continues to be.  Every week they seem to find a new way to disappoint, and I'm bloody bored of it.  40 years of Chelsea, and the absolute worse representation of the club I have ever seen.  Top to bottom, side to side, the club is in an appalling state.

Pochettino would be an even bigger spuds legend if he sends us on our way down...

So even if he loses, he wins lmao.

Even if we had got Luis Enrique, people would probably never have been happy if we weren't getting immediate results. I mean it's not ideal and obviously frustrating, but crazy to doubt Poch after so few games with key injuries and a system that isn't up to point yet. 

13 minutes ago, enigma said:

Even if we had got Luis Enrique, people would probably never have been happy if we weren't getting immediate results. I mean it's not ideal and obviously frustrating, but crazy to doubt Poch after so few games with key injuries and a system that isn't up to point yet. 

I believe he will fail, as he has been set up to fail by our recruitment. 

33 minutes ago, enigma said:

Even if we had got Luis Enrique, people would probably never have been happy if we weren't getting immediate results. I mean it's not ideal and obviously frustrating, but crazy to doubt Poch after so few games with key injuries and a system that isn't up to point yet. 

Luis Enrique isn't that good, anybody could have won with Prime Messi, Neymar and Suarez up front. Even at PSG he's struggling already

36 minutes ago, enigma said:

Even if we had got Luis Enrique, people would probably never have been happy if we weren't getting immediate results. I mean it's not ideal and obviously frustrating, but crazy to doubt Poch after so few games with key injuries and a system that isn't up to point yet. 

This is just shockingly bad though. Like we are scraping the barrel for any kind of positive.  Not one player is carrying the club on his back at the very least.

27 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

I believe he will fail, as he has been set up to fail by our recruitment. 

If you are right though the manager doesn't really matter as the recruitment team has set up just about anybody to fail.

45 minutes ago, enigma said:

Even if we had got Luis Enrique, people would probably never have been happy if we weren't getting immediate results. I mean it's not ideal and obviously frustrating, but crazy to doubt Poch after so few games with key injuries and a system that isn't up to point yet. 

I don't agree with all of poch's decisions but i have sympathy for him because I don't think Enrique or Pep or Klopp could challenge for a Europa spot if he spent 4 years here with our young untalented squad.

Faffing about with 12 year old Brazilian kids might be some fetish for Clearlake and Todd Boehly but it doesn't address the big problems in the squad. We didn't attempt to fix them in the summer and we're seeing the consequences of that now.

There isn't enough goal scoring talent in the squad for the manager to work with, I'm really not sure how any manager could be competitive with this team.

Edited September 17, 20232 yr by Whats_The_Mata?

 

2 minutes ago, enigma said:

 

No real Chelsea supporter asked for the squad to exclusively sign Children.

I'd have loved to see Spurs or Arsenal do it. Not us.

Other clubs supporters will obviously try and push us to continue with this strategy as long as possible because it's in their best interest.

Feels like when I kept telling my Gunner mate that Chamakh needed more time to be the next Thierry Henry.

Edited September 17, 20232 yr by Whats_The_Mata?

1 minute ago, enigma said:

 

That's one hell of a sh*t post you have pulled up there. Any u23 player will need some time to develop but I don't think fans expected a squad of mainly 25 and under, I've read many fans on here mention experience and youth together. Fans would also like some decent football and let's remember, Chelsea's first 5 games have included 10 man West Ham, Luton, Forest and Bournemouth and it's been awful.

5 minutes ago, Whats_The_Mata? said:

No real Chelsea supporter asked for the squad to exclusively sign Children.

And who gives a sh*t about developing youngsters? Sure, it's a good thing if you've got the basics right otherwise but I doubt anyone had a burning desire to see Chelsea FC turn into a full blown development club only to see the ones who actually becomes good picked up by clubs who are actually competing.

Spent a billion to become discount Arsenal from a decade ago.