5 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Hmm his style is more direct. Apparently they want a possession based manager who will make us solid and yet score lots of goals.

I was thinking more of the fit with the data driven "moneyball" type of approach, and coaching without rocking the boat on transfers in/out etc, 

5 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

I'm proper baffled as to why so many people are against RDZ, is it just the Brighton connection?

Coached Caicedo and Colwill before (and had both looking better than they do here), also coached Mudryk briefly at Shakthar.

 

Plays 4-2-3-1 so not a huge shift from what we were already doing

 

Was able to get 6th with about 4-5 decent players in the team, with our squad he's likely to do a lot better

13 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

I'm proper baffled as to why so many people are against RDZ, is it just the Brighton connection?

For me, this is one of the reasons....

25 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

I'm proper baffled as to why so many people are against RDZ, is it just the Brighton connection?

You tell us ! You went for Thiago Motta LOL.

9 out of 72 posters have voted for RDZ so far. 

If Pochettino is considered not good enough, why would we want the guy who was played 4 lost 4 against him this season as his replacement ? And that's before you consider that RDZ is a bit of an arrogant arse who fell out with Tony Bloom over recruitment, (alarm bells - ring ring ... 🙂 ) and has generally stuffed up Brighton's season by being stubborn and sulky, and having no plan B when they're getting spanked by the likes of Luton. Have a look on Brighton's forum ... they aren't exactly crying buckets at his departure LOL

Edited May 22, 20242 yr by Sexyfootball

Long but interesting read that sheds some light on the situation (if what's being said is true of course)

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5511549/2024/05/22/pochettino-chelsea-eghbali-boehly-winstanley-stewart/

So to re-cap:  Poch has gone. Meh. He was always a little Spursy. We could have won the League Cup and we could have won the FA Cup Semi final, but Poch choked. Maybe Poch did enough to get another season as manager, but he didn't really 'deserve' another season.  Our young team is ready to win trophies and with the right manager we could do.

I just read that Poch is looking to go to the Saudi Pro-League and cash in for a few years before retiring.

Our owners are clowns. They are yanks. All of the top teams in England are owned by yanks or some blokes from the Middle East.  What is the timeline for finding our new manager? Have they been working on this for a while?  Are they just waiting to announce the new man?  Who are the leading candidates?

Thomas Frank is one of the latest candidates to emerge.
No contact with Roberto de Zerbi, according to Fabrizio Romano.
Romano also ruled out the likes of Thomas Tuchel, Hansi Flick, Sergio Conceicao, Antonio Conte and Jose Mourinho. The Blues are, however, admirers of Ipswich Town boss Kieran McKenna and Stuttgart's Sebastian Hoeness.

𝐏𝐞𝐫 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐀𝐭𝐡𝐥𝐞𝐭𝐢𝐜’𝐬 𝐞𝐱𝐜𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭: 

- Training sessions were ‘tactically primitive’. 

- Poch refused to accept that his training methods contributed to injuries. 

- Jesus Perez overworked players with excessive amounts of high-intensity running. 

- Poch had a tendency to bring recovering players back into full training rather than adapted training too quickly resulted in re-injuries. 

- Poch disliked using Enzo and Caicedo together and saw Gallagher as their superior. 

- He selected Levi Colwill at LB to ‘bolster the defence’. 

- Club’s recruitment team brought Cole Palmer and Poch wasn’t too convinced. 

- Tried to sign ex-Spurs players to join the club for ‘experience’. 

- Dismissed the need for hiring the best set-piece coach in England despite Chelsea’s lackluster record.

Removing Poch was the RIGHT decision. 

Question is if the club will make the RIGHT decision on his replacement. 
 

The above doesn’t paint Poch in a good Light. 

3 minutes ago, JM7 said:

𝐏𝐞𝐫 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐀𝐭𝐡𝐥𝐞𝐭𝐢𝐜’𝐬 𝐞𝐱𝐜𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭: 

- Training sessions were ‘tactically primitive’. 

- Poch refused to accept that his training methods contributed to injuries. 

- Jesus Perez overworked players with excessive amounts of high-intensity running. 

- Poch had a tendency to bring recovering players back into full training rather than adapted training too quickly resulted in re-injuries. 

- Poch disliked using Enzo and Caicedo together and saw Gallagher as their superior. 

- He selected Levi Colwill at LB to ‘bolster the defence’. 

- Club’s recruitment team brought Cole Palmer and Poch wasn’t too convinced. 

- Tried to sign ex-Spurs players to join the club for ‘experience’. 

- Dismissed the need for hiring the best set-piece coach in England despite Chelsea’s lackluster record.

Removing Poch was the RIGHT decision. 

Question is if the club will make the RIGHT decision on his replacement. 
 

The above doesn’t paint Poch in a good Light. 

I thought the whole article, allegedly by Twomey, Johnson "and more" (Eghbali, Winstanley and Stewart?) smacks of being a club briefed hatchet job to justify the decision, so your summary does not surprise me in the slightest 🙂 

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

You tell us ! You went for Thiago Motta LOL.

9 out of 72 posters have voted for RDZ so far. 

If Pochettino is considered not good enough, why would we want the guy who was played 4 lost 4 against him this season as his replacement ? And that's before you consider that RDZ is a bit of an arrogant arse who fell out with Tony Bloom over recruitment, (alarm bells - ring ring ... 🙂 ) and has generally stuffed up Brighton's season by being stubborn and sulky, and having no plan B when they're getting spanked by the likes of Luton. Have a look on Brighton's forum ... they aren't exactly crying buckets at his departure LOL

I think Thiago Motta is gonna be a top coach, if we were going for a young manager then he would have been my first choice but the Juve deal is basically done anyway. I think RDZ is a very good coach so I'd be happy, especially with the talent pool out there. 

 

Shame it's exclusively a young coach we're looking at, Gasperini at Atalanta would be a great shout.

18 minutes ago, JM7 said:

𝐏𝐞𝐫 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐀𝐭𝐡𝐥𝐞𝐭𝐢𝐜’𝐬 𝐞𝐱𝐜𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭: 

- Training sessions were ‘tactically primitive’. 

- Poch refused to accept that his training methods contributed to injuries. 

- Jesus Perez overworked players with excessive amounts of high-intensity running. 

- Poch had a tendency to bring recovering players back into full training rather than adapted training too quickly resulted in re-injuries. 

- Poch disliked using Enzo and Caicedo together and saw Gallagher as their superior. 

- He selected Levi Colwill at LB to ‘bolster the defence’. 

- Club’s recruitment team brought Cole Palmer and Poch wasn’t too convinced. 

- Tried to sign ex-Spurs players to join the club for ‘experience’. 

- Dismissed the need for hiring the best set-piece coach in England despite Chelsea’s lackluster record.

Removing Poch was the RIGHT decision. 

Question is if the club will make the RIGHT decision on his replacement. 
 

The above doesn’t paint Poch in a good Light. 

This looks like PR from the club to justify the removal.

8 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Shame it's exclusively a young coach we're looking at, Gasperini at Atalanta would be a great shout.

He's certainly schooled Alonso this evening ... 3-0 to Atalanta now !

Just now, Sexyfootball said:

He's certainly schooled Alonso this evening ... 3-0 to Atalanta now !

3-3 incoming

Just now, Drogba1 said:

3-3 incoming

If they pull that off it will be incredible. 

They've had such a good season and so many late comebacks that you wouldn't bet against it LOL

Could we somehow poach Emery? Much much better than the options doing the rounds. 

1 minute ago, dR3 said:

Could we somehow poach Emery? Much much better than the options doing the rounds. 

Not sure he'd forego Champions League to come and join Eghbali's little circus LOL

1 minute ago, Sexyfootball said:

Not sure he'd forego Champions League to come and join Eghbali's little circus LOL

Yeah I thought of that as soon as I hit submit haha. Good point.

15 minutes ago, dR3 said:

Yeah I thought of that as soon as I hit submit haha. Good point.

No one with champions league football and at top team in their respective league is joining dumb and dumber 🤡🎪 .

Which is why its baffling they got rid of Poch.

 

 

1 hour ago, JM7 said:

𝐏𝐞𝐫 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐀𝐭𝐡𝐥𝐞𝐭𝐢𝐜’𝐬 𝐞𝐱𝐜𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭: 

- Training sessions were ‘tactically primitive’. 

- Poch refused to accept that his training methods contributed to injuries. 

- Jesus Perez overworked players with excessive amounts of high-intensity running. 

 

 

1 hour ago, JM7 said:

 

We had a disgusting injury record way before Poch took over.

2 hours ago, timetowaste said:

I'm proper baffled as to why so many people are against RDZ, is it just the Brighton connection?

For me it's the murine appearance, lack of stature and his excessive self regard. Nothing to do with his ability as a coach then. 

He is a one trick pony though and has been found out this season.

 

5 minutes ago, Liam said:

For me it's the murine appearance, lack of stature and his excessive self regard. Nothing to do with his ability as a coach then. 

He is a one trick pony though and has been found out this season.

 

If he comes I want a change of haircut clause put in the contract, the year 6 disco hair has to go.

20 minutes ago, just said:

 

We had a disgusting injury record way before Poch took over.

Yep, you can even pinpoint the night it got to the point where it was going to damage us long term. November 23rd, 2021. It started with Kante and Chilwell's injuries against Juventus, and it's not gotten better ever since.

McKenna it is.

Football and tactics wise he has what the board want, but I'm very concerned about his lack of experience in a top league. It's all well and good having the tactics but being able to deal with the pressure of a team like Chelsea is a completely different ball game. It's a massive risk, this is a genuine make or break decision for the sporting directors, if this appointment fails then they HAVE to go.