3 hours ago, Jezz said:

 

 

Tells you everything you need to know when Terry was is Poch.

29 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

None. 

Media are grasping on one narrative when in reality there is probably a whole list of issues they brought up with Poch, likely starting with the Chilwell at LW/Colwill LB nonsense. 

Didn't he even play Maatsen at RW a couple of times as well? That's probably more shocking than Chilwell and Colwill positions.

1 minute ago, RMH said:

Didn't he even play Maatsen at RW a couple of times as well? That's probably more shocking than Chilwell and Colwill positions.

This is how I feel the meeting went. 

 

- Poch made his case on the season and felt he deserved an extension + more control. 

- Directors brought up the issues seen throughout the season and denied the extension/control but wanted Poch to continue his remaining year. 

- Poch refused and didn't want to continue. 

- Directors accepted his resignation. 

2 hours ago, Shug said:

We would have been playing someone else, not with 10 men, so who knows?

"Sorry ref we can't take this penalty because we didn't sign Cole Palmer"

2 minutes ago, RMH said:

Didn't he even play Maatsen at RW a couple of times as well? That's probably more shocking than Chilwell and Colwill positions.

Probably should have done it more often ... we won all three games when Maatsen played RW LOL

Also, Colwill had a slightly better average match rating as LB than he did as CB this season.  Again, somewhat inconvenient for the narrative LOL

Why should we trust the process if the owners can't trust the process themselves 

If we get de zerbi am gonna rage 

6 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Probably should have done it more often ... we won all three games when Maatsen played RW LOL

Also, Colwill had a slightly better average match rating as LB than he did as CB this season.  Again, somewhat inconvenient for the narrative LOL

He must be a genius then

https://www.whoscored.com/Articles/xf6rzE9cp06jVqcX3L2mNQ/Show/Sacking-Pochettino-halts-Chelseas-latest-attempt-at-progress 

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Judging by Matt Law's post, I think the sporting directors feel that with the inclusion of players brought in these past few years the football on the pitch should be far more technical/controlling vs the chaotic back and forth football we saw 80% of the season. 

I mean we should have only one sporting director anyways so make one of them first team coach. They picked the players so let's see them deliver that type of team.

28 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

I mean we should have only one sporting director anyways so make one of them first team coach. They picked the players so let's see them deliver that type of team.

It's virtually no difference to how Edwards and Klopp operate. Txiki and Pep. 

Directors set the identity of the club and recruit both players and managers that fit that identity. They f**ked up picking Poch but again, they gave him only a 2 year deal for a reason. 

1 hour ago, El regreso said:

Tells you everything you need to know when Terry was is Poch.

Poch bought one of his NFTs.

9 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

It's virtually no difference to how Edwards and Klopp operate. Txiki and Pep. 

Directors set the identity of the club and recruit both players and managers that fit that identity. They f**ked up picking Poch but again, they gave him only a 2 year deal for a reason. 

The difference is that Klopp and Pep are (were, in Klopp's case) heavily involved beyond just coaching. 

1 minute ago, dermott said:

The difference is that Klopp and Pep are (were, in Klopp's case) heavily involved beyond just coaching. 

Managers will always have input when it comes to transfers. There is no way Poch didn't.

It's pushing for names and a direct strategy where managers and sporting directors clash, the latter always having the final say. This is what top clubs do. 

 

7 hours ago, El regreso said:

“Apparently the players are not happy “ 
 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/05/22/chelsea-whatsapp-players-pochettino-palmer-jackson/

Are they EVER happy ????

3 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Judging by Matt Law's post, I think the sporting directors feel that with the inclusion of players brought in these past few years the football on the pitch should be far more technical/controlling vs the chaotic back and forth football we saw 80% of the season. 

Even to my far from technical eye that I would say is a fair assessment 

Edited May 22, 20242 yr by terraloon

I am curious to see if our injury issue is solved next season...

 

Edited May 22, 20242 yr by Sconnie Blue

7 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

I am curious to see if our injury issue is solved next season...

 

Don't buy this at all.

Our injury problems were well established before Pochettino was appointed.

Also can't ever recall Spurs or Southampton having massive injury problems when he managed them ... ?

Just now, Sexyfootball said:

Don't buy this at all.

Our injury problems were well established before Pochettino was appointed.

Also can't ever recall Spurs or Southampton having massive injury problems when he managed them ... ?

I don't ever recall this amount of training ground injuries and set backs.

 

Spurs had an issue under him. Julien Laurens also criticized his training methods at PSG. 

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/tottenham-players-blame-pochettino-training-for-injury-list

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Conte said:

Why should we trust the process if the owners can't trust the process themselves 

If we get de zerbi am gonna rage 

52 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Don't buy this at all.

Our injury problems were well established before Pochettino was appointed.

Also can't ever recall Spurs or Southampton having massive injury problems when he managed them ... ?

Usually our players would be getting injured during games though, this season it happened during training a lot more often

Honestly the list of names being suggested makes De Zerbi look like the safest option

 

The likes of Maresca and McKenna are completely unproven at top flight level

51 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

I don't ever recall this amount of training ground injuries and set backs.

 

Spurs had an issue under him. Julien Laurens also criticized his training methods at PSG. 

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/tottenham-players-blame-pochettino-training-for-injury-list

 

 

 

I think we'd have heard more about this from our players if it was true ... he seems to have been pretty popular with half the walking wounded for someone who is being portrayed as risking their careers with his training methods ... half the match threads were full of posters complaining why is Player XYZ not starting, and the Poch explanation was basically that he was handling them carefully as he didn't think they were ready to play ... Nkunku, Carney, James, Chilwell etc etc 

I think the best fit for what this lot are trying to do and how they want to operate is probably Thomas Frank.

I'm proper baffled as to why so many people are against RDZ, is it just the Brighton connection?

4 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

I think the best fit for what this lot are trying to do and how they want to operate is probably Thomas Frank.

Hmm his style is more direct. Apparently they want a possession based manager who will make us solid and yet score lots of goals.