5 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

As i said - i wasn't a fan.

But wacko is far far far worse. 

No, he is not. Tammy is not even good enough to be a bench option in a top four club.

Nothing against Abraham, but Jackson has a much bigger upside than Tammy. Nico is not a finished article and I realize people's frustrations with him, but there's definitely talent there. Ideally, he shouldn't be leading the line for us at this point of his career because he is not ready and is still very raw. But despite all his flaws, which are few, you have to be blind not to see that he's got natural ability. Whether he can develop into a top class forward is  a big question, but it's not his fault that he's asked to carry on his shoulders the burden of being the №9 for a club that has failed to procure a top class goalscorer despite spending a fortune.

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I know Jim won't agree but I really think we needed an actual striker, not so converted left winger who misses tons of chances and costs us games.

Yet we signed Sancho, someone else who does not score goals, all because of Jim's golden boy Nico.

Well done Clearlake.

Just now, abramovich said:

No, he is not. Tammy is not even good enough to be a bech option in a top four club.

Nothing against the Abraham, but Jackson has a much bigger upside than Tammy. Nico is not a finished article and I realize people's frustrations with him, but there's definitely talent there. Ideally, he shouldn't be leading the line for us at this point of his career because he is not ready and is still very raw. But despite all his flaws, which are few, you have to be blind not to see that he's got natural ability. Whether he can develop into a top class forward is  a big question, but it's not his fault that he's asked to carry on his shoulders the burden of being the №9 for a club that has failed to procure a top class goalscorer despite spending a fortune.

There is no talent. He is braindead. There is no upside - he is rubbish. There is no positives that can come from keep playing him. 

Just now, axman2526 said:

I know Jim won't agree but I really think we needed an actual striker, not so converted left winger who misses tons of chances and costs us games.

Yet we signed Sancho, someone else who does not score goals, all because of Jim's golden boy Nico.

Well done Clearlake.

I do quite like Jackson....hide it well though. 

He is a mid table side striker like Ollie Watkins.. not yet elite.. hopefully he gets there..

5 minutes ago, Jangz said:

He is a mid table side striker like Ollie Watkins.. not yet elite.. hopefully he gets there..

He is far far far lower than that. He has no chance of "getting there".

He is rubbish.

@ Nicolas Jackson - if you happen to be home tonight, and search for yourself online to see what is being said about you, and happen stumble across this thread - then please know this. YOU ARE RUBBISH AND A FRAUD - GET OUT OF OUR CLUB. 
 

It's not me - it's you. Now f**k off. 

 

edit - the last line was to Wacko - not the lovely Jangz!

Edited September 1, 20241 yr by nonotnowjim

I don't think I've seen a more divisive forward than Jackson.

He's the only player I know who can actually score a lot of goals while still being terrible, it's impressive. 

2 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

I don't think I've seen a more divisive forward than Jackson.

He's the only player I know who can actually score a lot of goals while still being terrible, it's impressive. 

We all hoped for 'terribly impressive' ...

....what we get is 'impressively terrible'.  

😢 

Jim, you make me laugh mate. 

Tbf to jacko, Noni was worse than him today. But your love for jacko will be a best selling Novel. 🤣 

1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

- There are a few, that like to be contrary for the sake of it.

- There are some, who just seem to be on a wind up by saying they are happy with him.

- and some, who for some reason, are unable to see past the stats. Either they know nothing about football or more likely, don't watch any of the games. If they did, they would see he is trash. 

 

One thing is for sure. Wacko is a hinderance to our team. He makes the team worse and costs us - in almost every game he plays. 

I genuinely question the intention of anyone who legitimately defends this fraud. 

He needs to be dropped immediately 

Instead of being dropped, he gets a contract extension.

Our owners!

Is the contract extensions anything to do with amortisation? 

1 hour ago, Jangz said:

He is a mid table side striker like Ollie Watkins.. not yet elite.. hopefully he gets there..

He's playing for a conference league team

He's perfect 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Jangz said:

not yet elite.. hopefully he gets there..

A lot of posters seem to have this kind of sentiment about many of our current players, Jacko, Fernandez, Mudryk etc. There’s a few who I’m sure would give CPR to a rotting corpse.

2 goals in last two league games and people are on his case. 

I think Jackson has a lot about him and has been steadily improving. He’s aggressive, get’s into good positions and his holdup and linkup play is getting better. His finishing isn’t the best, but if he could increase his conversion rate a bit he would be an elite striker.

There aren’t many strikers at his age that are better than him.  

Just get behind the guy and give him the confidence to hit new heights. Same applies to our other young players. All this negativity from our supporters will only make things worse.

There’s a lot to like about him but chance conversion isn’t one….. yet.

I get the feeling he’d be best suited to playing in a two up front.

The way we play though is suited to Neto/Noni/Felix/ et al scoring plenty of goals which should see him get time to develop. This is a big season for him though. If he gets 20 league goals I don’t think any could really complain and he’d be our settled striker going forward. If he scores 10-15 or less then he’s getting replaced and after being pretty much our 9 for 2 seasons he’s probably wanting a move depending who we bring in.

I honestly hope he does it for us but completely on the fence whether he will .

12 minutes ago, 19seventyone said:

There’s a lot to like about him 

Biggest one being the budding love story between him and Jim.

3 hours ago, Gudjohnsen said:

2 goals in last two league games and people are on his case. 

I think Jackson has a lot about him and has been steadily improving. He’s aggressive, get’s into good positions and his holdup and linkup play is getting better. His finishing isn’t the best, but if he could increase his conversion rate a bit he would be an elite striker.

There aren’t many strikers at his age that are better than him.  

Just get behind the guy and give him the confidence to hit new heights. Same applies to our other young players. All this negativity from our supporters will only make things worse.

ahh - so you are one of the ones who look at goals only, and nothing else.

Ok - i can play the game. Yes, let's give wacko credit for the ball hitting him in his ugly head  against wolves, and his world class finish when tapping it into an empty net from 2 yards. Bravo.

those 2 seconds aside - he has made us worse in every game. He is rubbish.

He is not steadily improving. He was sh*t when we got him. He is just as sh*t now. His link up play isn't getting better - it is still sh*t. 
 

Some players make those around them play better - wackos the opposite - he makes the team worse and costs us goals and points. 

15 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

But he scores goals.

Got a few last year 

Missed loads too. 

He's an enigma.

If not exactly a machine.

 

15 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Jackson has made it impossible to tell who's being serious and just having a laugh in here 😂

Jim is definitely only having a laugh. The others, take your pick.

I don't get the point of giving him a new contract. I mean he's doing a decent job, but if anyone who's doing decent gets an extension, you could find another 5-6 players. Maybe if missing something, could be there's a rich club lurking in the background for a 100M bid for him 🤫, and the owners decided to raise the stake by giving him a new deal

15 hours ago, abramovich said:

No, he is not. Tammy is not even good enough to be a bench option in a top four club.

Nothing against Abraham, but Jackson has a much bigger upside than Tammy. Nico is not a finished article and I realize people's frustrations with him, but there's definitely talent there. Ideally, he shouldn't be leading the line for us at this point of his career because he is not ready and is still very raw. But despite all his flaws, which are few, you have to be blind not to see that he's got natural ability. Whether he can develop into a top class forward is  a big question, but it's not his fault that he's asked to carry on his shoulders the burden of being the №9 for a club that has failed to procure a top class goalscorer despite spending a fortune.

Tammy's problem is that he's a tall lad with no physical presence. Not even good with his head. He had a good first season at Roma with Mourinho's tactic of hoofball over the top for him to run onto. Second season, different tactics, Tammy had to fight, and too easily brushed aside.

I don't like comparing players side by side but sometimes it's the only real way to measure output.

He might not be easy on the eye but if you know anything about talent, you can see more than just glimpses of it in his game. 

He can fight for the ball, he can link up play, he can score, not as many as he should but apart from our golden boy on penalty duties who racked up lots of goals last season, no one in Clearlake regime has scored more than him.

No wonder they've extended his contract and with talk of their performance clauses, if he's been given one then he's met the metrics he was set.

I really like Nkunku, he's a few years older and has been in a "good team" prior to us, delivering the goods. He's been hampered by injury with us but I'm not seeing him outperforming Jackson on a regular basis. 

All the players in the team have made Jackson type errors with decision making, finishing and ultimately breaking down good moves and opportunities. No one is giving them the kind of criticism that seems to be thrown his way at every opportunity.

They're all young players in a very young team and whilst I do not agree with the long term strategy of the ownership, it's not the players fault and I'm willing to give them time to grow into a team. They have shown signs they can be good, some areas more than others.

I think if we had an established striker in the squad the sentiment towards Jackson would be far kinder. He's scored 16 in 38 PL games now, thats a good haul.

He's rough around the edges but I think we saw him improve over the course of last season, especially physically, and I'm excited to see him grow as a player.

16 minutes ago, abister1 said:

I don't like comparing players side by side but sometimes it's the only real way to measure output.

He might not be easy on the eye but if you know anything about talent, you can see more than just glimpses of it in his game. 

He can fight for the ball, he can link up play, he can score, not as many as he should but apart from our golden boy on penalty duties who racked up lots of goals last season, no one in Clearlake regime has scored more than him.

No wonder they've extended his contract and with talk of their performance clauses, if he's been given one then he's met the metrics he was set.

I really like Nkunku, he's a few years older and has been in a "good team" prior to us, delivering the goods. He's been hampered by injury with us but I'm not seeing him outperforming Jackson on a regular basis. 

All the players in the team have made Jackson type errors with decision making, finishing and ultimately breaking down good moves and opportunities. No one is giving them the kind of criticism that seems to be thrown his way at every opportunity.

They're all young players in a very young team and whilst I do not agree with the long term strategy of the ownership, it's not the players fault and I'm willing to give them time to grow into a team. They have shown signs they can be good, some areas more than others.

Nah - he is sh*t. He is brain dead. He needs putting down. 
 

Doesn’t matter that he is young. If you are good enough, you are old enough - and unfortunately wacko the donkey is far from good enough. 

15 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

Is the contract extensions anything to do with amortisation? 

Funny you ask that because it based on my reading of the rules change certain things.

 

Firstly you need to look in the round in that we gave Kepa, who had one year left and some £10 million left to be amortised. 
 

Second we extended Palmers deal and Jackson’s deals.

 

So the rules  now state that contracts are restricted to a 5 year time scale in terms of amortisation. But if you extend a contract that extension re sets the clock at 5 years save those that were in place prior to the rule change.

 

So in Kepas case there is a £5 million amortisation saving in 24/25 in the case of Palmer & combined will increase the annual sum by £3.2 million. 
 

 

 

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