1 hour ago, dansubrosa said:

Yes it was a horrendous mistake by Sanchez but to be fair to him, Gallagher could have done a lot better there. Take a look at this screenshot

He had more time to get there before Rice did. It’s not just Sanchez’s fault, it’s also Gallagher and slightly Enzo too.

I think I am on my own for this, and that is fine, but as Sanchez poor passes go this is not even in the top 3.

This is not a pass straight to Nunez or Pedro with no Chelsea player near it. It is one that the two Arsenal players on our left have no chances of intercepting. Look at this picture. Conor has a yard or so on Rice, he is looking at the ball, and he us faster than Rice.

If Conor pays attention he sees, at the same time as Rice, Enzo is not getting the ball, he therefore acts, gets to the ball first and no goal happens.

For me he should be getting more stick for not covering enough of the goal to block Trossards goal, which was very saveable,  than that pass.

Edited October 23, 20232 yr by axman2526

Decision making.

Why to play on Gallagher when there's player behind him even if he can receive the ball under press..,

Simple pass to Enzo who can switch side to Thiago and that's it.

46 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

I think I am on my own for this, and that is fine, but as Sanchez poor passes go this is not even in the top 3.

This is not a pass straight to Nunez or Pedro with no Chelsea player near it. It is one that the two Arsenal players on our left have no chances of intercepting. Look at this picture. Conor has a yard or so on Rice, he is looking at the ball, and he us faster than Rice.

If Conor pays attention he sees, at the same time as Rice, Enzo is not getting the ball, he therefore acts, gets to the ball first and no goal happens.

For me he should be getting more stick for not covering enough of the goal to block Trossards goal, which was very saveable,  than that pass.

Harsh. Very Harsh. 

Rice is already in a running motion heading towards the ball. Gallagher is flat footed because he, like a normal human being, is anticipating Sanchez making a simple pass to Enzo. Of course Rice is going to react faster to the misplaced pass. 

This should of been a very disciplined end to the game yet Sanchez felt the need to be a f**k wit. 

“He didn't have to do it” 

looks like this one is on the coaching staff. 

13 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

“He didn't have to do it” 

looks like this one is on the coaching staff. 

I think I saw a pundit said something similar that he was being asked to play short. Looking back at it now i take the blame away from him 100%, its 50 for him and 50 for Conor no way should he let Rice get that if he’s not on a yellow foul him take one for the team.

Checking the match stats’s he didn’t get booked before so that was perfect time to take one for the team. This is where experience pros know how to kill a game. He will learn from this the entire team will learn from this.

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Harsh. Very Harsh. 

Rice is already in a running motion heading towards the ball. Gallagher is flat footed because he, like a normal human being, is anticipating Sanchez making a simple pass to Enzo. Of course Rice is going to react faster to the misplaced pass. 

This should of been a very disciplined end to the game yet Sanchez felt the need to be a f**k wit. 

Sounds like Sanchez was following the game plan, and when he did not and went long the keeper coach gave him and earful.

If you feel I am being harsh on Conor fair enough. Unlike a lot of Chelsea fans, I have rated Conor for a while and can see him being a top, top player. So that means I hold him to higher standards than other players as he is capable. In my opinion he should not be letting Rice get ahead of him. The amount of times he read the game, nicked the ball and got us going shows he has the vision and the ability to keep his focus. He switched off, it happens. It is certainly forgivable.

I just don't feel it is right Sanchez is getting crucified over thus kick when the coaching staff and Conor are also to blame. He deserves more flack for his poor effort to save Trossards goal.

1 hour ago, IliyaKrostin said:

Decision making.

Why to play on Gallagher when there's player behind him even if he can receive the ball under press..,

Simple pass to Enzo who can switch side to Thiago and that's it.

100%! How can any blame be put on Conor at all, he was ready to start playing out again from our possession. Enzo is right in front of Sanchez with at least 10 yards between each player beside him, a simple tap out to Enzo or hoof the ball anywhere but to Rice! Simple!

31 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

“He didn't have to do it” 

looks like this one is on the coaching staff. 

Correct me If I am wrong, but that is the same goalkeeping coach he had at Brighton yes?

If this is the style of play we want, which is being brave to build out from the back always, why does he continue to pressure Sanchez into it when its f**king evident that distribution isn't his strong suit? Also, if this is how we want to play, WHY THE f**k DID WE SIGN SANCHEZ?

Sorry, but anyone putting any blame at all on that goal on Gallagher, clearly hasn't played football at any kind of level.

 

2 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Correct me If I am wrong, but that is the same goalkeeping coach he had at Brighton yes?

If this is the style of play we want, which is being brave to build out from the back always, why does he continue to pressure Sanchez into it when its f**king evident that distribution isn't his strong suit? Also, if this is how we want to play, WHY THE f**k DID WE SIGN SANCHEZ?

No. Jimenez is the keeper coach that follows Poch to any job he goes.

Ben Roberts is the keeper coach that came from Brighton.

4 minutes ago, Modueke said:

100%! How can any blame be put on Conor at all, he was ready to start playing out again from our possession. Enzo is right in front of Sanchez with at least 10 yards between each player beside him, a simple tap out to Enzo or hoof the ball anywhere but to Rice! Simple!

Apparently hoofing it was not an option.

Perhaps he went to Conor as, if he spins Rice, we are in on the counter? Only Sanchez knows and I don't believe he is said if he was aiming for Enzo and messed it up, or if he did intend going to Conor.

Just now, axman2526 said:

Apparently hoofing it was not an option.

Perhaps he went to Conor as, if he spins Rice, we are in on the counter? Only Sanchez knows and I don't believe he is said if he was aiming for Enzo and messed it up, or if he did intend going to Conor.

I don't even think Sanchez knew! At least if it was Mendy in the same boat, he would've made sure the ball made it to the West Stand for an Arsenal throw!

5 minutes ago, Nibs said:

Sorry, but anyone putting any blame at all on that goal on Gallagher, clearly hasn't played football at any kind of level.

 

Fair dos Nibs, I respect your opinion.

21 minutes ago, Modueke said:

I don't even think Sanchez knew! At least if it was Mendy in the same boat, he would've made sure the ball made it to the West Stand for an Arsenal throw!

Karim Benezema says hi lol

Can't possibly blaming the GK coach for the mistake. It's one thing about playing from the back, completely different when you had to clear the line in a dangerous situation. Even the best playing GK had to clear the line with a long punt. Bad decision making and poor passing ( to a lesser degree) were the issues, not due to a coach yelling instructions. I thought players usually ignore or can't hear those side line yells anyway.

11 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Correct me If I am wrong, but that is the same goalkeeping coach he had at Brighton yes?

If this is the style of play we want, which is being brave to build out from the back always, why does he continue to pressure Sanchez into it when its f**king evident that distribution isn't his strong suit? Also, if this is how we want to play, WHY THE f**k DID WE SIGN SANCHEZ?

Personally i think he was only ever signed as competition to Kepa.

When Kepa wanted out he got promoted to first choice. I doubt he's ever seriously considered to be long term first choice. More of a stop gap like Mendy was until a genuine world class GK is available. 

9 hours ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Can't possibly blaming the GK coach for the mistake. It's one thing about playing from the back, completely different when you had to clear the line in a dangerous situation. Even the best playing GK had to clear the line with a long punt. Bad decision making and poor passing ( to a lesser degree) were the issues, not due to a coach yelling instructions. I thought players usually ignore or can't hear those side line yells anyway.

Christ, now i am worried if players are flat out ignoring the coaches instructions!

It happens all the time, but the coach cannot come out after the game and say "those useless w**kers, didn't follow the plan". He might say it in the dressing room though.

2 hours ago, Ajbod said:

It happens all the time, but the coach cannot come out after the game and say "those useless w**kers, didn't follow the plan". He might say it in the dressing room though.

So what would he be saying in the dressing room after the game at the weekend? "f**k you Sanchez, you should have ignored the coaches instruction"????

I suspect he's more concerned at the apparent panic that sets in when our opponents score. the responce he will want is like citeh and the ilk, ie the opponents then think oh sh*t we've poked the bear.

Keen for Petrovic to be given a chance. How many mistakes will it take for Sanchez to be replaced? More will keep coming this season. Should have given away a pen as well he absolutely wiped out Gabriel

Edited October 24, 20232 yr by rtwelch

The correct pass from Sanchez is to Gallagher, and then Gallagher right back to Enzo. Of course Sanchez must know that Conor is ready for it. But Enzo can step in and play that behind the Arsenal line.

Enzo I think tricked Gallagher a little bit, as he let role to Conor but he stopped playing. This is how much space Gallagher had when Sanchez made his decision to pass, Galllagher had about 6 yards of space.

Edited October 24, 20232 yr by Wearyourblue
trying to add photo

On 23/10/2023 at 19:51, RIP Mourinho said:

“He didn't have to do it” 

looks like this one is on the coaching staff. 

If this is the case it is totally on the coach because in that still picture from @axman2526 you can see there is a simple lofted ball over Rice and we have a player ready to break clear and run the channel

On 23/10/2023 at 16:54, dkw said:

That pass just should not have been played, its an unnecessary one to a player who would be instantly under pressure.

I'm still not convinced the pass was even aimed for Gallagher. I think he wanted to play it to Enzo but overhit it.

18 hours ago, Wearyourblue said:

The correct pass from Sanchez is to Gallagher

It really wasnt, it was a hugely risky pass and totally unnecessary in that situation. It was a hospital pass to Gallagher (if it was even meant for him), the second he gets it he`s got Rice all over him, any pass from Gallagher after that is under pressure and into a busy area with opposition players. 10 minutes to go leading at home, just clear the back line, get it up field.