42 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Contracted to 2030 with fantastic wages for his actual ability.

So yeah, moving him on is going to be way easier said than done. This is where the "decade" long contract comes back to bite us in the arse.

 

25 minutes ago, Kev56 said:

This long term philosophy once again proving to be a stupid f**king idea. Like most of the money making ideas these w**kers have BOUGHT to the table.

The length of his contract has no impact on our ability to sell someone?

In fact it probably has a positive effect as we are likely paying him less in wages than if he was on a 4 year deal. 

2 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

In fact it probably has a positive effect as we are likely paying him less in wages than if he was on a 4 year deal. 

Do you have any evidence that suggests this?

Mudryk for example is also confirmed to be on hefty wages for his actual ability and he's contracted to 2031 so i've seen nothing to suggest the wages are extremely conservative for any of these lesser players we are buying. Not to mention we'd be looking to recoup a 100 million between Sanchez & Mudryk before selling them and that will likely never happen.

Yes, it's hard to believe any club will pay a decent fee for a second choice GK on high wages

50 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Do you have any evidence that suggests this?

Mudryk for example is also confirmed to be on hefty wages for his actual ability and he's contracted to 2031 so i've seen nothing to suggest the wages are extremely conservative for any of these lesser players we are buying. Not to mention we'd be looking to recoup a 100 million between Sanchez & Mudryk before selling them and that will likely never happen.

I didn't say extremely conservative. I said less. 

Give a player a 7 year contract and you can typically negotiate a lower wage than someone on 5 years. 

And can we shift Sanchez for 20/25m? Maybe. I could see a PL team paying that. He's reportedly on 65k a week, it might even be less than that as there have been lots of reports we have clauses in contracts for appearances / results etc. 

FYI Mudryk isn't confirmed to be on hefty wages. 

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

And can we shift Sanchez for 20/25m? Maybe. I could see a PL team paying that. He's reportedly on 65k a week, it might even be less than that as there have been lots of reports we have clauses in contracts for appearances / results etc. 

FYI Mudryk isn't confirmed to be on hefty wages. 

I don't but fair enough. Spending is way down as every team have been scared sh*tless by the new precedent thats been set with Everton and I predict spending will continue to be way down for a long time. Really bad timing for us of course but what can you do.

And Mudryk is on a 100k base salary, for someone of his ability who were impressive for about a dozen games in Ukraine I consider that hefty as hell.

7 hours ago, OriginalS said:

I don't but fair enough. Spending is way down as every team have been scared sh*tless by the new precedent thats been set with Everton and I predict spending will continue to be way down for a long time. Really bad timing for us of course but what can you do.

And Mudryk is on a 100k base salary, for someone of his ability who were impressive for about a dozen games in Ukraine I consider that hefty as hell.

It is a lot, but there are about 90 odd players in the PL who are paid more than that according to Capology ... 

11 hours ago, dkw said:

Its plain to see the defenders all feel much more comfortable with Petrovic in goal than Sanchez, he is a calming influence on them, you can see they have no worries about passing him the ball, making space for a pass from him. Compared to when Sanchez was in, they were nervous passing to him or getting it from him, hes a liability.

If Poch doesn't see what's obvious to us all, I won't be as supportive towards him being given a chance anymore.

When you have an injury crisis and are forced into trying different formations and players and even some out of position, then maybe I can cut you some slack but if the confidence translating from Petrovic to his defenders and ultimately the wider team cannot be recognised and appreciated by a man whose daily job it is to identify such, then I will no longer have any regard for the supposed nous or ability you are meant to have in the game.

I think anyone who changes the team dynamic unforced deserves zero sympathy. 

Edited February 22, 20242 yr by Sconnie Blue

On 22/02/2024 at 09:00, OriginalS said:

Do you have any evidence that suggests this?

Mudryk for example is also confirmed to be on hefty wages for his actual ability and he's contracted to 2031 so i've seen nothing to suggest the wages are extremely conservative for any of these lesser players we are buying. Not to mention we'd be looking to recoup a 100 million between Sanchez & Mudryk before selling them and that will likely never happen.

Sanchez is on £60k a week. Most top keepers at big clubs would be demanding £100k+. Easier to shift someone on £60k than on £100k+.

Mudryk deal is different to the ones we did in summer. 

23 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Sanchez is on £60k a week. Most top keepers at big clubs would be demanding £100k+. Easier to shift someone on £60k than on £100k+.

Mudryk deal is different to the ones we did in summer. 

I know, but for someone who was second choice at Brighton and who's now become second choice here as well through poor performances it's a lot in my view.

Also not sure the summer was all that different, we spent about £250 million between Sanchez, Ugochuwku, Lavia and Caicedo and there's probably 1/4 players in there thats good enough.

1 hour ago, OriginalS said:

I know, but for someone who was second choice at Brighton and who's now become second choice here as well through poor performances it's a lot in my view.

Also not sure the summer was all that different, we spent about £250 million between Sanchez, Ugochuwku, Lavia and Caicedo and there's probably 1/4 players in there thats good enough.

We had Begovic playing second fiddle for two years on £50k a week and still sold him for £10m 8 years ago before transfer fees exploded. 

Ugochukwu is on £45k a week and so is Lavia. Ugochukwu will likely be flipped for a profit and Lavia stay with the first team. Caicedo is on £150k a week, which is what Villa are paying Lenglet and West Ham paying Paqueta. 

Transfer fees are pretty meaningless as most are spread over the years so won't affect us unless the players flop massively. 

Think Lesly is very much first team option. 

The only traditional DM we have, and a pretty good one imo. Think he's been very unlucky with injuries much like Lavia. 

I usually love having a player in the side who gets me on the edge of my seat.

Unfortunately in this case though he's a goalkeeper.

Unfortunatley, it's preparing to dash to the bog.

On 08/12/2023 at 03:24, Gonoir Beniashile said:

What's worse is our GK coach knew his game inside out, recommended him, we paid top dollar and are now actively playing to his weaknesses. 

 

Mind boggling. 

We need to get this clown out of our club, he's an absolute liability. Match after match, mistake after mistake. He's an even bigger buffoon than the joker who keeps selecting him.

2 minutes ago, Gonoir Beniashile said:

We need to get this clown out of our club, he's an absolute liability. Match after match, mistake after mistake. He's an even bigger buffoon than the joker who keeps selecting him.

The guy is just not quick witted enough for PL level of football. His mind just cannot compute quick enough.

Petrovic must have been watching today thinking no doubt he will be back in goal next match.

Now we are in another semi-final, hope Poch sees sense and plays our strongest line up which will mean Sanchez being nowhere near the starting 11.

Can't understand why we signed this guy. Wasn't even first choice at Brighton and they expected him to be the answer for us?

I don't understand how we look worse playing out the back with Sanchez in goal than we do with Petrovic.

Isn't this meant to be the only thing he's actually good at? He's a liability and I never want to see him in goal for us again. 

6 minutes ago, Remodez said:

I don't understand how we look worse playing out the back with Sanchez in goal than we do with Petrovic.

 

Because our players receiving the ball from him don't trust him at all, our defence and midfield are so much more nervy with him in goal. 

Why is Pochettino playing him in the Cup when he did not play Petrovic in any of the Cup games before Sanchez got injured? The coach is the bigger clown for picking him.

3 hours ago, Nibs said:

Petrovic must have been watching today thinking no doubt he will be back in goal next match.

Now we are in another semi-final, hope Poch sees sense and plays our strongest line up which will mean Sanchez being nowhere near the starting 11.

Yeah I assume he will be in the semi final and add to the mystery of why managers decide to play a 2nd string keeper in important cup games. 

Why did we sign him? What a complete mess up. Always puts us on the brink of danger playing out from the back. Today should solidify his place on the bench.

8 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

Why did we sign him? What a complete mess up. Always puts us on the brink of danger playing out from the back. Today should solidify his place on the bench.

Today was a good demonstration to the DoFs and owners that we need to sign a world class goalkeeper in the summer. 

Petrovic is better than Sanchez, but he's not exactly a Cech or Courtois ... 

12 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

Why did we sign him? What a complete mess up. Always puts us on the brink of danger playing out from the back. Today should solidify his place on the bench.

The playing out of the back is on Poch. They are clearly under instruction to do it and its horrendous.  Sanchez is particularly awful at it but it gives me brown air biscuit time when Petrovic does it too