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Everton vs Chelsea (PL) Sun 10th Dec 23 14:00 GMT

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3 minutes ago, Jackbuchanan said:

All the attacks, all the possession, no goals, they score with their only chances. Standard Chelsea since we lost Tuchel.

Id argue its longer than that, we started playing that way in the second half of Tuchel's second season once the injuries came and Roman was forced to sell the club. Been downward since then.

1 minute ago, forbzy said:

Agreed. Some on here might want Poch out but the manager is not the issue. It is Clearlake. They have gutted and destroyed the club.

I said it on first 1-2 pages of this topic. You can't repeat a sh*it things like we need more time, when you allow Man UTD to make 28 shots for 90 minutes.

Fans thought a couple of good results against top sides would turn things around. There is nothing to turn around. The side is depleted with injuries fatigue and most of the players are so inexperienced. Up and down is the trajectory with a young side like ours.

Just now, big blue said:

Thankfully, since we haven't been charged yet, its extremely unlikely to be this season.

Everton's was a 7/8 month turn around, and they had admitted guilt. 

Just hit the 40 point mark, and we can bury our heads in the sand again and pretend it will fine next season.

It may not hit until next year but FFP means that we will have to sell without European football, and most likely players that have some financial value. So, what looks like an already weak squad will likely only look worse next season. I don't see much of an improvement in the next few years no matter who is managing.

1 minute ago, Whats_The_Mata? said:

You still think we have a talented squad.

Lay the blame were it should be laid.

The squad is talented, individually the players are good but Poch seems to have no idea how to get them to gel together, virtually any of these young players we've bought barring a couple could go to an Arsenal, City, Newcastle and look a top talent but not here because Pochettino doesn't have a tactical brain in his body. There's only so much putting your arm around a player can do but without any direction in the pitch we're going to go nowhere.

1 minute ago, timetowaste said:

The squad is talented, individually the players are good but Poch seems to have no idea how to get them to gel together, virtually any of these young players we've bought barring a couple could go to an Arsenal, City, Newcastle and look a top talent but not here because Pochettino doesn't have a tactical brain in his body. There's only so much putting your arm around a player can do but without any direction in the pitch we're going to go nowhere.

 said it on first 1-2 pages of this topic. You can't repeat a sh*it things like we need more time, when you allow Man UTD to make 28 shots for 90 minutes.

STOP MAKING SH*T EXCUSESS

4 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

The squad is talented, individually the players are good but Poch seems to have no idea how to get them to gel together, virtually any of these young players we've bought barring a couple could go to an Arsenal, City, Newcastle and look a top talent but not here because Pochettino doesn't have a tactical brain in his body. There's only so much putting your arm around a player can do but without any direction in the pitch we're going to go nowhere.

The players aren't talented individually.

Poch has reached a CL final, won a few trophies,  finished top 3 in the PL a few times he's not and never has been a top coach but he's a damn sight better at his job than all the untalented deadwood we've signed.

What have players like Broja, Jackson Mudryk, Madueke, Colwill, Disasi, Gallagher etc shown in their entire careers to give you the faith that the manager isn't getting the best out of them?

Poch worked miracles at Southampton,  most Southampton fans didn't think Broja was good enough for them but he's supposedly a top prospect and should play for Chelsea? 

Give me a break

Edited by Whats_The_Mata?

It’s doesn’t matter which coach we bring. The problem at the club is multifaceted. Problem number one is the abysmal recruiting. We had an excellent recruiting team headed by Emenalo, who spotted talent and potential.And number two the standard of players we have. To call them subpar is a compliment at this point. They’re not even championship level let alone PL level. They are more like league one level. I honestly don’t know what the next step is. The players, coaching staff, and management all seem lost in the wilderness. It is genuinely a dark time for Chelsea with no optimism and positivity in sight.

Big game against Sheffield United coming up. Not being over dramatic but if results go against us next weekend we're in serious sh*t and I honestly can't see our lot having the guts to get out of the rut we're in.

2 minutes ago, Faisal said:

It’s doesn’t matter which coach we bring. The problem at the club is multifaceted. Problem number one is the abysmal recruiting. We had an excellent recruiting team headed by Emenalo, who spotted talent and potential.And number two the standard of players we have. To call them subpar is a compliment at this point. They’re not even championship level let alone PL level. They are more like league one level. I honestly don’t know what the next step is. The players, coaching staff, and management all seem lost in the wilderness. It is genuinely a dark time for Chelsea with no optimism and positivity in sight.

Thats why Poch is trying every combination and its not working. Simple we have bunch of idiots on the pitch .

Just now, Whats_The_Mata? said:

The players aren't talented individually.

Poch has reached a CL final, won a few trophies,  finished top 3 in the PL a few times he's not and never has been a top coach but he's a damn sight better at his job than all the untalented deadwood we've signed.

What have players like Broja, Jackson Mudryk, Madueke, Colwill, Disasi, Gallagher etc shown in their entire careers to give you the faith that the manager isn't getting the best out of them?

You keep using the phrase 'untalented deadwood' when it isn't true. I cba with this convo because we will just go round in circles. I rate most of the players but they just aren't getting the proper coaching to take them from talented individuals to a good team and that is on Poch 

I blame this one on Poch he decided to rest players at a difficult away ground and after losing our last match.

I just got 6 points on the prediction league and up until I saw the line up thought we would win. 

 

8 minutes ago, evissy said:

Fans thought a couple of good results against top sides would turn things around. There is nothing to turn around. The side is depleted with injuries fatigue and most of the players are so inexperienced. Up and down is the trajectory with a young side like ours.

When do we get the "up" bit?

I was that the 4-4 win and beating 9 man spurs?

1 minute ago, evissy said:

Fans thought a couple of good results against top sides would turn things around. There is nothing to turn around. The side is depleted with injuries fatigue and most of the players are so inexperienced. Up and down is the trajectory with a young side like ours.

I would be happy to accept all defeats on the premise that a young team is learning and developing in the process. However, I do not detect any young enthusiasm, desire or any progress, in fact I can see regression and total apathy. I think coaching, training and management are at fault and the responsibility rests with Poch and his assistants. 

Called the loss before we even kicked a ball. May scrape survival this season. Sell Enzo and James to get past FFP. We are going to be in the wilderness for a long time.

Edited by Trueblu77

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