It looks many here doesn't understand Maresca ball.

Marescaball is about press bait and central progression.

It is similar to what pep is saying here.

So you will see our cb standing on the ball waiting for the opp to press or slow pass between the them, once opp jump, move the ball fast, get the ball to the free dm/10s in space and then attack.

Maresca also focus on central progression. Next time you watch our game, just focus what happen when our fb get the ball wide he will either pass the ball back or pass to dm and just stay back there instead of making overlapping run. The goal is not to progress through them but to move opp side to side with the goal to get central player free.

8 hours ago, KonaKai Blue said:

Let's hope he is not an enemy of progress and gets them sold before he is

I wouldn't put money on that. Zero faith in the footballing wisdom of that fraud.

2 hours ago, Bob stark said:

It looks many here doesn't understand Maresca ball.

Marescaball is about press bait and central progression.

It is similar to what pep is saying here.

So you will see our cb standing on the ball waiting for the opp to press or slow pass between the them, once opp jump, move the ball fast, get the ball to the free dm/10s in space and then attack.

Maresca also focus on central progression. Next time you watch our game, just focus what happen when our fb get the ball wide he will either pass the ball back or pass to dm and just stay back there instead of making overlapping run. The goal is not to progress through them but to move opp side to side with the goal to get central player free.

Unfortunately no amount of whiteboard tactics will stop it from being hideously boring to watch in reality. Every time I feel a bit excited about the upcoming season I remember who our manager is and it just vanishes. We are going to get nowhere with Maresca results wise and it makes it even worse that it's going to be awful to watch as well. Seeing a talented group of players play like a subbuteo team with their flair and creativity drained out of them is a real shame.

2 hours ago, Bob stark said:

So you will see our cb standing on the ball waiting for the opp to press or slow pass between the them, once opp jump, move the ball fast, get the ball to the free dm/10s in space and then attack.

Ok, I've seen A LOT of that first bit. When do we start to see some of the second part?

2 hours ago, Bob stark said:

It looks many here doesn't understand Maresca ball.

If only we all had such amazing football intelligence as you eh.....you`re so smart....

Edited June 24, 20251 yr by dkw

3 hours ago, Bob stark said:

It looks many here doesn't understand Maresca ball.

Marescaball is about press bait and central progression.

It is similar to what pep is saying here.

So you will see our cb standing on the ball waiting for the opp to press or slow pass between the them, once opp jump, move the ball fast, get the ball to the free dm/10s in space and then attack.

Maresca also focus on central progression. Next time you watch our game, just focus what happen when our fb get the ball wide he will either pass the ball back or pass to dm and just stay back there instead of making overlapping run. The goal is not to progress through them but to move opp side to side with the goal to get central player free.

I have no idea what he's saying, and judging from the facial expressions of the players and his own staff, neither do they 🤔

Edited June 24, 20251 yr by Valerie

12 minutes ago, Valerie said:

I have no idea what he's saying, and judging from the facial expressions of the players and his own staff, neither do they 🤔

A hundred years ago someone acting like this would probably have been carted off to the nearest lunatic asylum LOL

1 hour ago, Snedger said:

Ok, I've seen A LOT of that first bit. When do we start to see some of the second part?

Something like this, moved the ball slowly side to side. Sanchez then stood on the ball. Lane opened up, Sanchez passed the ball to MIDDLE. Two passes and we are in opp box.

Edited June 24, 20251 yr by Bob stark

That must be a deepfake or whatever they call that AI generated stuff. If it was real I think Maresca would be seen self flagellating in the technical area.

1 hour ago, Bob stark said:

Something like this, moved the ball slowly side to side. Sanchez then stood on the ball. Lane opened up, Sanchez passed the ball to MIDDLE. Two passes and we are in opp box.

What a goal

We lost 3-1 but we had a one successful passing sequence in 90 minutes after a year of learning the system

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

A hundred years ago someone acting like this would probably have been carted off to the nearest lunatic asylum LOL

Good times, can we relive them 😄 ?

5 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

We lost 3-1 but we had a one successful passing sequence in 90 minutes after a year of learning the system

One for Maresca to re-watch a hundred times on his iPad while the next game slips away from us !

6 hours ago, Bob stark said:

It looks many here doesn't understand Maresca ball.

Marescaball is about press bait and central progression.

It is similar to what pep is saying here.

So you will see our cb standing on the ball waiting for the opp to press or slow pass between the them, once opp jump, move the ball fast, get the ball to the free dm/10s in space and then attack.

Maresca also focus on central progression. Next time you watch our game, just focus what happen when our fb get the ball wide he will either pass the ball back or pass to dm and just stay back there instead of making overlapping run. The goal is not to progress through them but to move opp side to side with the goal to get central player free.

We understand it perfectly well enough, it's just tedious to watch and we don't have the players to play that type of football. Maresca needs to adapt his system to the players we have, but he will never do that because he's dead set on his way being the best way.

It may be what Maresca wants but the application of it is so far away from being true. Funny enough I think it can be done more effectively but Maresca's bizarre obsession with complicating things makes it almost impossible.

Why is Sanchez still #1?

Why was Enzo playing almost as a LW?

Why is a RB in midfield?

Why is Caicedo the only press resistant midfielder on the pitch in a system where we want to move through the middle?

31 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

We understand it perfectly well enough, it's just tedious to watch and we don't have the players to play that type of football. Maresca needs to adapt his system to the players we have, but he will never do that because he's dead set on his way being the best way.

It is the same style that we played when we were scoring for fun. Was it tedious back then?

Playing press bait football is like this. When it work, it is spectacular. Two passes and you are attacking your opp box in plenty of space. But when it doesn't work, it is boring because you have to slowly to bait your opp to open up space/as pep said commit.

We finished 4th last season so not sure it doesn't suit our player.

Edited June 24, 20251 yr by Bob stark

Just now, Bob stark said:

But when it doesn't work, it is boring because you have to slowly to bait your opp to open up space/as pep said commit.

We finished 4th last season so not sure it doesn't suit our player.

But this is where fans want more adaptability.

Teams that will be more conservative with their pressing and that clog the midfield have proven to be the most stubborn to break down and have been this teams' achilles heel under Maresca.

Our sporting directors aren't Txiki Begirstain and will build a team to the managers image. They'll buy players that fit their financial model. So comparing ourselves to Pep/City in itself is wrong.

1 hour ago, Bob stark said:

It is the same style that we played when we were scoring for fun. Was it tedious back then?

Playing press bait football is like this. When it work, it is spectacular. Two passes and you are attacking your opp box in plenty of space. But when it doesn't work, it is boring because you have to slowly to bait your opp to open up space/as pep said commit.

We finished 4th last season so not sure it doesn't suit our player.

Not true at all. Against Brighton and Newcastle, we played counter attacking football. We were mixing it up far more in the early parts of the season, now we just play the exact same way in every single game and have done since Christmas. It's sh*te, there is nothing enjoyable about our football in the slightest.

We finished 4th after putting ourselves in such a strong position at the start of the season. Putting ourselves so close to Liverpool early on gave us plenty of room for error, and there were A LOT of errors between Christmas and the end of the season. We got over the line in the end, but it should never have been that close and I blame it fully on Maresca's tactics. He sacrificed the form of nearly every player to force his system on to them.

2 hours ago, Bob stark said:

It is the same style that we played when we were scoring for fun. Was it tedious back then?

Playing press bait football is like this. When it work, it is spectacular. Two passes and you are attacking your opp box in plenty of space. But when it doesn't work, it is boring because you have to slowly to bait your opp to open up space/as pep said commit.

We finished 4th last season so not sure it doesn't suit our player.

such a lie haha

It looks like many here doesn’t understand his tactical approach - which is to bait the opposition players into falling asleep and/or losing the will to live, giving up and dying right there on the pitch en mass.

And then boom! - 17 more passes around the decaying bodies of opposition players and Jackson is through on empty goal, and that’s, like, 1 in 3 chance of scoring.

23 minutes ago, _Ilya_ said:

It looks like many here doesn’t understand his tactical approach - which is to bait the opposition players into falling asleep and/or losing the will to live, giving up and dying right there on the pitch en mass.

And then boom! - 17 more passes around the decaying bodies of opposition players and Jackson is through on empty goal, and that’s, like, 1 in 3 chance of scoring.

Come on! How stupid do you think we are? Even I can tell when we're switching to the "false sense of security" tactics when we've gone 1-0 down.

4 minutes ago, Valerie said:

Come on! How stupid do you think we are? Even I can tell when we're switching to the "false sense of security" tactics when we've gone 1-0 down.

Exactly! And just as they start to relax and get over-confident we deploy the Jackson-kicks-somebody-in-the-face move to throw them off kilter.

4 minutes ago, _Ilya_ said:

Exactly! And just as they start to relax and get over-confident we deploy the Jackson-kicks-somebody-in-the-face move to throw them off kilter.

Oh we're good. We're really good. All thanks to Whatsisname.

Heard Maresca described as another “Gareth Southgate” in that, he’ll get you so far but when he comes up against a truly elite team/manager, he’ll always lose.

Perfect summary of Maresca unfortunately. I can’t think of one good team that we’ve beaten this season.

He’s come nowhere near beating City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Newcastle. In fact, all of these defeats have been absolutely pathetic.

Bang average.

Edited June 24, 20251 yr by JM7

I said previously that I felt Maresca was one of those "lucky" people in life ... and it's happening again at the Club World Cup what with both PSG and Bayern Munich going into the bottom half of the knock outs draw when it looked odds on that they'd both be in our quarter of the draw in the the top half.

Looks like a favourable draw until at least the Q-Finals now. Could still be one of Real or Man City for the SF, albeit as it currently stands they are both in the bottom half of the draw as well LOL.