June 20, 20251 yr We’re stuck with him aren’t we. The results did improve at the end of the season, but the football is dire and the attacking instincts are evaporating before our eyes.
June 20, 20251 yr On 18/06/2025 at 11:34, Sunspear_88 said:The thing is, for those people not liking the style of football, when did we ever play particularly great football? Even under Roman we often had coaches who were pragmatic and a little more defensive. Tuchel, Conte, Mourinho. I remember many fans not enjoying Sarri's style of play. I don't think we'll ever be happy with a style of play. We may as well go for Big Ange if we want overly attacking football.We played winning football under Roman, and despite the reputation, we had loads of exciting teams. It's not about being gung ho attack, or 80% possession, I think the majority of chelsea fans would be happy us being a clinical counter attacking team like we were under Conte in 2016/17. Now we seem to sacrifice basic defensive stability, in order to play players out of position. We are obsessed with Pep and City, when really we should be looking at Liverpool, or better yet, the title winning teams we produced in the last 20 years, so we can build on our actual identity, rather than trying to copy pep, and ending up looking like an arsenal team in the late 00s.
June 20, 20251 yr There's nothing for him to learn, from his perspective. He has a way of playing football which he thinks is right, and that's that.
June 20, 20251 yr A lot of the players we have brought in are not good enough, but there is more than enough there to make a cohesive team out of with the right coach. Petrovic (clowns want to sell him) James, Cucurella, Colwill, Caicedo, Lavia, Santos (clowns probably want to sell him too!), Palmer. These are the players I am confident we can build a team around. Then you have Neto, Chalobah, Tosin, Delap, Enzo, Estevao that are at least decent squad fillers, with some of them that could grow to be something bigger.Get a good manager in and he will make something out of that. He will have them looking like a team that look comfortable with how they want to play. All I see under Maresca are players looking confused, or fighting hard to make it work. Caicedo, as good as he is, I feel is way too overworked and always seems to be fighting against the tactics, desperately trying to hold things together. I never look at him and feel like he is comfortable. Constantly stretching to make that tackle, toe poking a pass in the nick of time before be being surrounded and losing possessing. Constantly rushed to make a decision. Having to use clever footwork to beat a press, tracking back to cover the LB who has been instructed to play left wing attacking midfield striker. Caicedo with the mask to protect his broken nose suits him, because he needs mess his body up just to survive in this system.Caicedo is the extreme example when it comes to this problem, but everybody else suffers from it too. I feel uneasy with everything we do on a football pitch. Theres not a single thing about the way we play that makes me feel comfortable watching. Edited June 20, 20251 yr by Scott Harris
June 20, 20251 yr God, tonight was just a reminder that the upcoming season is going to be a write off. We'll fix some gaps we have in the team but the results and playing style will stay the same because this amateur coach is too far out of his depth. I can only hope that once we start the season off like sh*t we'll move to replace him quickly, but I can't see us sacking him until next summer, I have zero optimism going into this season because of Maresca.
June 20, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:A lot of the players we have brought in are not good enough, but there is more than enough there to make a cohesive team out of with the right coach. Petrovic (clowns want to sell him) James, Cucurella, Colwill, Caicedo, Lavia, Santos (clowns probably want to sell him too!), Palmer. These are the players I am confident we can build a team around. Then you have Neto, Chalobah, Tosin, Delap, Enzo, Estevao that are at least decent squad fillers, with some of them that could grow to be something bigger.Get a good manager in and he will make something out of that. He will have them looking like a team that look comfortable with how they want to play. All I see under Maresca are players looking confused, or fighting hard to make it work. Caicedo, as good as he is, I feel is way too overworked and always seems to be fighting against the tactics, desperately trying to hold things together. I never look at him and feel like he is comfortable. Constantly stretching to make that tackle, toe poking a pass in the nick of time before be being surrounded and losing possessing. Constantly rushed to make a decision. Having to use clever footwork to beat a press, tracking back to cover the LB who has been instructed to play left wing attacking midfield striker. Caicedo with the mask to protect his broken nose suits him, because he needs mess his body up just to survive in this system.Caicedo is the extreme example when it comes to this problem, but everybody else suffers from it too. I feel uneasy with everything we do on a football pitch. Theres not a single thing about the way we play that makes me feel comfortable watching.The Caicedo example is spot on. Nothing appears natural in the Maresca team - it’s very forced, rigid, and uncomfortable. In a system where they’re overthinking, inhibited and in a few cases out of position.
June 20, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, Zeta said:There's nothing for him to learn, from his perspective. He has a way of playing football which he thinks is right, and that's that.Didn't he say that he plays his way and if that doesn't work then he'll leave. So when's the w*nker going ffs?
June 21, 20251 yr 7 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:Who would people realistically want?Having watched the highlights I would fire him immediately. He is a coward with no backbone and I would take Fabregas as his replacement. He has being playing outstanding football with a small team like Como!
June 21, 20251 yr I don't think I can stomach watching us play anymore whilst Maresca is manager.Football is a simple game, yet he seems to make it look so complicated and dull. Edited June 21, 20251 yr by Malcolm9
June 21, 20251 yr When I saw we were 1-0, I thought wow, Maresca is starting to do something with the team - then the collapse happened. I’m trying not to overreact but his football is so boring , our attack is blunt and everything is too ridged to be effective. Palmer looks blunted.
June 21, 20251 yr No yes man as manager would take this job. I remember being linked with Slot and thought okay he seems decent but knowing what he’s like now he would never take the structure we have here. We will only get yes men managers who let’s face it are not the ruthless winners we need.Long years ahead for us!!
June 21, 20251 yr 6 minutes ago, JM7 said:When I saw we were 1-0, I thought wow, Maresca is starting to do something with the team - then the collapse happened.I’m trying not to overreact but his football is so boring , our attack is blunt and everything is too ridged to be effective. Palmer looks blunted.No open play goal in about 6 months now for Cole. What has he done to him! This ‘style’ is also meaning we’re looking at quite unique profiles like Gittens when far better quality is out there. Cunha Semenyo Mbeumo Cherki Eze etc.Just hate everything about the set up right now
June 21, 20251 yr The outcome of those last two fixtures, Forest and the final did a great job of distracting us from the reality that this manager is awful.How much time will be wasted persevering with him? A whole season at least I expect.Even Jackson is helping him out by providing excuse and distraction from his own failings.
June 21, 20251 yr He tried something in terms of formation, a 4231 with no full backs inverting, but truth is the build up play is incredibly slow, the defenders, especially the center backs touch the ball way too many times and also midfielders find themselves a lot of times with no other option then to pass backwards. We need more intent and more energy, this is a young team that could sustain a high tempo if needed.
June 21, 20251 yr 10 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:Who would people realistically want?At this point in time I’m all in on Jose mk3 we’d at least win something and have an identity.Realistically Fabregas is the best option in terms of the football being played to the squad we have built.
June 21, 20251 yr Author 59 minutes ago, The Boehly Babes said:At this point in time I’m all in on Jose mk3 we’d at least win something and have an identity.Realistically Fabregas is the best option in terms of the football being played to the squad we have built.3 hours ago, Gentian said:Having watched the highlights I would fire him immediately. He is a coward with no backbone and I would take Fabregas as his replacement. He has being playing outstanding football with a small team like Como!So the answer to replacing our Pep disciple, is with another Pep disciple? Como finished 10th whilst having the 10th highest wage bill. Are we supposed to be that impressed?
June 21, 20251 yr 31 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:So the answer to replacing our Pep disciple, is with another Pep disciple?Como finished 10th whilst having the 10th highest wage bill. Are we supposed to be that impressed?Cec has done a decent job with a lower-mid-table team but no more than that. Beat Napoli in February but nowt against the other top teams. The lower-mid-table teams' stats are, on the whole, inflated by beating the bottom feeders who are genuinely terrible.
June 21, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, dermott said:Ben Stokes rivals Maresca for incompetence in the decision-making department.If Maresca took over as manager of the England cricket team the enjoyable unpredictability and flair of Bazball would be gone in 5 minutes. Instead we would have Mazball. Four top order batsmen in the mould of Geoffrey "The Blocker" Boycott and the slowest over rate in world cricket.
June 21, 20251 yr 17 minutes ago, just said:If Maresca took over as manager of the England cricket team the enjoyable unpredictability and flair of Bazball would be gone in 5 minutes. Instead we would have Mazball. Four top order batsmen in the mould of Geoffrey "The Blocker" Boycott and the slowest over rate in world cricket.So, not good?
June 21, 20251 yr 46 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:Who would people realistically want?Since we got rejected by Enrique and Flick, I'd have taken a shot at Thomas Frank instead of Maresca last season. Now that ship's sailed and realistically there aren't any managers available that'd immediately put us on the title bracket imo, maybe after 2026 WC with shots at De La Fuente or Nagelsmann (who already rejected us once), both have a lot to prove at club football though. Having said that, I'd exchange Maresca for basically anyone at this point so excluding some common names like Iraola/Fabregas and Brighton's managers Hurzeler/De Zerbi, I wouldn't mind to take a bet on Abel Ferreira, who's led Palmeiras to several titles during his 5-year tenure here in Brazil, becoming the foreign manager with most trophies in the country. Has fire in him, speaks good enough english, knows Estevão already, his contract runs until december 2025, perfectly aligned to take over when Maresca gets sacked by Christmas. If nothing else works, take a punt at Edin Terzic? Reached CL's final with Dortmund, can't be that bad.
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