5 minutes ago, big blue said:

I think Felipe Luis would be a gamble, but at least he has already built a winning side, and as we saw in the summer, his team were impressive, and the South American opponents certainly were very capable themselves. Also knows his way around elite european football and the club and premier league too. So yes id extend that to Felipe Luis.

Jaissle i'm less convinced about, Austrian and Saudi football, is not the same level. Its good he has worked with some big names, but still too much of a roll of the dice for me.

Yeah I'd go with that. I would put Jaissle above Iraola. I'd put a lot of people above Iraola though. I'd also go with Danny Rohl. Who doesn't meet this bar, but I think if you've managed to walk into Rangers and have that season, and dealt with the bullsh*t at Wednesday as well, he'd probably do a good job here.

Is Iraola another Potter or something?

I don't understand how a Rangers manager and a bloke managing a Saudi club would be better options than him.

8 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Is Iraola another Potter or something?

I don't understand how a Rangers manager and a bloke managing a Saudi club would be better options than him.

Nor me. Rohl is a promising young manager, let him learn at Rangers. Jaissle is going to be one of a thousand names dredged up by the click baiters. Wait for the skeleton of Matt Busby to be the next hot tip.

Has to be Roy Hodgson for me. Don't abandon the youth movement.

12 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Is Iraola another Potter or something?

I don't understand how a Rangers manager and a bloke managing a Saudi club would be better options than him.

Yeah Iraola is another Potter in my opinion until he proves otherwise.

I have absolutely no idea why people seem so hot on him. Bournemouth have an attendance of 10k. They went 11 games in a row in the PL without winning this season, did you know that? No. Because no one cares about Bournemouth. He's just another in a long line of decent managers who has made a club no one cares about look decent occasionally under zero pressure.

Rohl on the other hand, is managing a club with a hugely toxic fanbase, 50k attendance, joined when they'd won one of the first 8 games, everyone said it was the sh*t squad the directors assembled and they have since been the best team in the league. So yeah I would put him over Iraola. I wouldn't hire him now, I'd hire him in 12 months when inevitably the next manager this board selects gets sacked - probably Iraola.

13 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Yeah Iraola is another Potter in my opinion until he proves otherwise.

I have absolutely no idea why people seem so hot on him. Bournemouth have an attendance of 10k. They went 11 games in a row in the PL without winning this season, did you know that? No. Because no one cares about Bournemouth. He's just another in a long line of decent managers who has made a club no one cares about look decent occasionally under zero pressure.

I mean devil's advocate he did lose 5 of his starters this season.

2 hours ago, GarnachoCheese said:

Filipe Luis interests me.

I fear what these owners will do to him though.

He is good - but like Mr.Cesc Fabregas - he needs another 2-3 years as a manager, before we hire him and destroy his life. . .

Simone Inzaghi?

Just trying to think out of the box.

Are we going with an interim manager for the rest of the season OR no manager for the rest of the season?

After the World cup - there might be a few more coaches available?

in the ideal world we should just make Carlo Ancelotti our new Sporting Director.

44 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Yeah Iraola is another Potter in my opinion until he proves otherwise.

I have absolutely no idea why people seem so hot on him. Bournemouth have an attendance of 10k. They went 11 games in a row in the PL without winning this season, did you know that? No. Because no one cares about Bournemouth. He's just another in a long line of decent managers who has made a club no one cares about look decent occasionally under zero pressure.

Rohl on the other hand, is managing a club with a hugely toxic fanbase, 50k attendance, joined when they'd won one of the first 8 games, everyone said it was the sh*t squad the directors assembled and they have since been the best team in the league. So yeah I would put him over Iraola. I wouldn't hire him now, I'd hire him in 12 months when inevitably the next manager this board selects gets sacked - probably Iraola.

Big difference is, one has been doing it in the PL and one in a Micky Mouse league!

Any appointment will be a gamble, but I think we HAVE to go for someone with decent PL experience (which also rules out Luis for me). I get your argument re Iraola, but the guy has no right to be doing what he has done at Bournemouth with their budget and squad (and keep losing their better players).

Edited April 23Apr 23 by Nibs

Ideally it'd be Simeone, Emery, Luis Enrique or Nagelsmann, but I'd be happy with Alonso or Iraola. But all of these will require a change in direction from the ownership to have more say in how things are run. This 'collaborative approach' is complete horsesh*t and just LinkedIn talk for micro-managing. No top coach is gonna want to deal with some clueless yanks telling us how we've been doing 'soccerball' wrong for 100 years.

Edited April 23Apr 23 by timetowaste

THIS IS FUNNY AND IN LIAM ROSENOIRS MIND TRUE

Apparently MacFarlane only has a Uefa B license. That’s only one more then me 🤣

2 hours ago, big blue said:

Keep seeing names like Ireola or even Marco Silva.

How many managers have made the step up from midtable to a big team and actually won the league? I cant think of any excluding Ranieri.

If you want to won the league or even challaenge for it, you bring in a manager that has won elsewhere in another big league.

Maybe Arteta wins this year, and that is possibly proof of developing a young coach being able to develop and then challenge, but its took him 6 years, and complete control.

Xabi Alonso clear 1st choice.

Nagelsmann

Simeone

Xavi

Deschamps

Zidane

If we dont hire a winner, it will be more of the same, and yes i know we arent that club anymore, but we should be with the amount we have spent.

This a thousand times, some of the converstations i'm seeing flying around (some in jest i know), look Ireola has done great at bourmouth but he's not going to walk in to the chelsea dressing room with a group of players who think they are better then they are and control the narative. There has to be a respect level that will have them run through a brick wall for him, that can be force of personality or medals on the table. Simeone can do both!

Edited April 23Apr 23 by theGreenBaron

3 hours ago, Caps_Lock_King said:

BETTING FOR NEXT CHELSEA MANAGER

4/5 - SOOTY

2/1 - BASIL BRUSH

3/1 - PINOCCHIO

5/1 - KERMIT THE FROG

10/1 - ROLAND RAT

They’re all too big names who’d expect to be pandered to & demand control over their domain.

If the sporting structure remains the same then it doesn't matter who we get. Good managers wouldn't come anywhere near us. Only the ones that are ok with being told what to do would.

And we'd still be signing dross so any manager coming in would have to deal with an imbalanced squad built on market opportunities rather than footballing needs.

Sack Winstanley and Stewart, appointment one SD with a proven track record and give him the keys.

Anything besides that is a waste of time.

37 minutes ago, Nibs said:

Big difference is, one has been doing it in the PL and one in a Micky Mouse league!

Any appointment will be a gamble, but I think we HAVE to go for someone with decent PL experience (which also rules out Luis for me). I get your argument re Iraola, but the guy has no right to be doing what he has done at Bournemouth with their budget and squad (and keep losing their better players).

I think you could have made that argument with Potter at brighton, if we hadn't taken him he would have taken another fairly good job by now, probably the same outcome. our best managers had no prem experience. In fact the only person to have managed two clubs and won the league with the second of them is Claudio. What we need is some one who can walk in to a room look the likes of Enzo in the eyes and say you have done nothing in the game as far as im concered, i'm putting my medals on the table for you and if you follow me you will have a bunch of these as well, if you don't f*ck of out the club.

As I write that it's worth noting that no manager will succeed under these conditions

52 minutes ago, Nibs said:

Big difference is, one has been doing it in the PL and one in a Micky Mouse league!

Any appointment will be a gamble, but I think we HAVE to go for someone with decent PL experience (which also rules out Luis for me). I get your argument re Iraola, but the guy has no right to be doing what he has done at Bournemouth with their budget and squad (and keep losing their better players).

Not buying the PL experience at all. Never been a pre requisite for success.

The guy has every right to be doing what he's doing at Bournemouth. Similar to Brighton, Brentford, etc. you can look great there just by meeting expectations.

10 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Not buying the PL experience at all. Never been a pre requisite for success.

The guy has every right to be doing what he's doing at Bournemouth. Similar to Brighton, Brentford, etc. you can look great there just by meeting expectations.

But on your mind, you can look good at Al Ahli and be better fit for the PL and the pressure of Chelsea. Insane.

Simeone all day for me. None of the names mentioned above are ones I would be confident would drag our bang average squad into a team that at least looks cohesive albeit short on technical ability

4 hours ago, Caps_Lock_King said:

who?

Chelsea lay ‘groundwork’ for shock Saudi appointment as ‘contact’ made with ‘leading candidate’

Chelsea have laid the ‘groundwork’ for the shock appointment of Al-Ahli boss Matthias Jaissle as ‘contact’ is made with their ‘leading candidate’ after Liam Rosenior was sacked on Wednesday.

Actually an elite coach with a winning track record.

So, naturally we'll end up with Thomas Frank.

1 hour ago, Nibs said:

Big difference is, one has been doing it in the PL and one in a Micky Mouse league!

Any appointment will be a gamble, but I think we HAVE to go for someone with decent PL experience (which also rules out Luis for me). I get your argument re Iraola, but the guy has no right to be doing what he has done at Bournemouth with their budget and squad (and keep losing their better players).

How much PL experience did Wenger, Mourinho, Conte... And the rest Have?

If you're good enough you're good enough.

In the unlikely event that Simeone is actually a realistic prospect, I would do unspeakable things to have him at Chelsea.

It would, however, betray yet more slapdash long-term planning from the sporting directors. He would be by an enormous distance the best manager to manage Chelsea under BlueCo, but he's hardly the stylistic successor to Maresca (and the players they signed for his ponderous style of play).

I do have a slight hope concern that he would physically assault a couple of our more... lackadaisical players though.

40 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Not buying the PL experience at all. Never been a pre requisite for success.

The guy has every right to be doing what he's doing at Bournemouth. Similar to Brighton, Brentford, etc. you can look great there just by meeting expectations.

I think Iraola is a good manager and would do well here. But only if the club allows him to work without the interference we have seen with last managers under Clearlake. I suspect many decent managers will not consider our position unless some sort of reassurance is made around changes on that side.

33 minutes ago, RMH said:

But on your mind, you can look good at Al Ahli and be better fit for the PL and the pressure of Chelsea. Insane.

Don't be dismissive, we probably wouldn't beat All Ahli.

He's won a CL over there and is in another CL final this season.

He's also won silverware in Austria.

That's factually better than finishing 10th with Bournemouth or Fulham.

34 minutes ago, RMH said:

But on your mind, you can look good at Al Ahli and be better fit for the PL and the pressure of Chelsea. Insane.

Lol I dont want Iraola or the Al Ahli manager.

I just said I'd prefer him to Iraola because at the very least he's been a winner. He's won leagues, cups etc.