eerrr did I say he would come back an haunt us?  Totally agree with the Special One's comments though.  

 

 Personally my only criticism of the academy isn't that we don't play the kids, but that we're producing too many lower table PL/Championship quality kids capable of helping us compete for a top 4 place. Hopefully Tammy, Mason Mount, Billy Gilmour, Dujon Sterling and Callum Hudson-Odoi will break the mould.

7 hours ago, didierforever said:

I hear/read 3mil

It terms of value I suspect there is not a lot different between what we will get for Solanke and what we had to pay City for Sturbridge. 

Liverpool won't want to pay much at all but I suspect that the initial fee will be around £3-£3.5 million but there almost certainly will be add ons based on first team appearances probably £500 k after 10,20,30 &. 40 games. add another chunk should he make a full international appearance and indeed a % of any subsequent transfer fee. In the case of Sturbridge we finally paid £8.5 million.

I suspect Liverpool are spinning the sum that the compensation panel will set but as we know from when they signed Danny Ings they ended up paying far more than they had hoped and whilst the numbers were different the terms of the award was very similar to the Sturbridge ruling

One thing intrigues me is if the club gave Solanke permission to speak to Liverpool.

When a club wants to retain a player they have to within 7 days of the clubs last competitive match confirm in writing that they want to keep  the player and on what terms. I have never know a club issue these letters earlier than the last match. Until DS had that letter he can not speak to any other club unless his club agree to him holding discussions. 

The next danny ings at best...has as much chance of making it at Liverpool as he did with us..in other words, nada...some headlines say he's spurned us, would argue it's the other way around...we wouldn't accede to his demands and are now putting our faith in Abraham, cos he's a far better player and has more of a realistic chance of making it 

Edited May 30, 20179 yr by The Brit

not sure why some of you sound so bitter about this to be honest.

you can question his attitude but at the end of the day he's had to make a decision for his own career.

the club gets a decent(ish) fee for him which will only increase depending if he ends up being a good player later on, whilst not really losing out too much when you consider how good tammy is going now, with ugbo coming in after him as well.

as for churning out too many championship and lower prem level players....my nephew was in the academy a few years ago and i remember asking him what his first day was like as a scholar and he told me neil bath sat all the new first years down and gave them a bit of a speech about how the academy isn't really just an academy and that it's an institution.

the main point was that for these players, chelsea as an institution intends to give them the best possible chance of becoming a pro footballer whether this be at chelsea or somewhere else, that is the aim of the academy. it's about forging a pathway to professionalism for young prospects. as fans obviously our only agenda is for those players to graduate into chelsea first teamers but you have to remember our expectations as fans and the expectations of the clubs and the individual are different. even when graduates don't go on to have careers here but do elsewhere the academy takes great pride in it

19 hours ago, the special one said:

Good move for Solanke and wish him all the best, though I may not agree with his decision if he feels he's doing what's best for his career then good luck to him. Sadly by opting to sign for a rival it's unlikely we'll welcome him back with open arms if/when he plays at the Bridge.

As a way to show our appreciation for Solanke my hope is we'll sign Jann-Fiete Arp and fast track him into the first team.

Didn't he sign for Liverpool?

Time to move the thread I guess. That's the end of him as a Chelsea player.

Also if anyone hasn't seen the link below, seems that Izzy Brown agrees with what we are all thinking even if he later denies it

 

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjq-Zit5p7UAhWkC8AKHcqtAfUQFgg2MAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.90min.com%2Fposts%2F5075934-chelsea-youngster-izzy-brown-apologies-for-liking-abusive-instagram-comment-regarding-dom-solanke&usg=AFQjCNH18Zc4SiEmpTIggtkMURhKxq_qhw&sig2=cA7uasd6EpmTfpvYyGlpQg

I wish him success! But its clear a player like Solanke wont even really be playing much for liverpool for at least a few years. But then again Klopp is a master at integrating youth and he could realy turn Dom into something special!

Out of all the teams why did he have to join those murdering bar stewards. All i see over social media from Liverpool fans now is talking about how he's the 'black Lewandowski' and will be the best striker in the world in 5 years ffs. Should've incentivised him to join Celtic. 

Meh

he will be a nothing player for them 

They two he scored in the last U20 game were rubbish. Yea they went in but one dropped to him with an empty net and the other had no business going in if the keeper wasnt sh*t. 

He'll come good but they're getting ahead of themselves. There's a reason he was passed over here

I know an U-20s World Cup Golden Ball shouldn't mean much in the grand scheme of things, but we're going to feel like such dicks if Solanke really takes off and becomes something special with the dippers.

Scousies are reportedly in trouble over tapping up solanke, so they might not get him after all.

Edited June 11, 20179 yr by dkw

Watched the u20 final this morning and to be fair, solanke looked the best I've seen him since he was winning the youth cup final a couple of years ago. 

There were no real standouts though, maybe partly due to nerves, tomori and Clarke Salter weren't as good as they can be. 

4 hours ago, dkw said:

Scousies are reportedly in trouble over tapping up solanke, so they might not get him after all.

 

I alluded to this in my earlier post as it was pretty obvious that the timelines didn't quite add up.

As for him not joining LFC that is not worth wasting any time disputing he is going there. As for us if we really do have grounds for a complaint then  what happens from this point on gets interesting. People talk about us having a history of tapping up but it's nothing compared to LFC

In 2008 they were fined 20k having tapped up Zige, then they had two issues in 2008 Gareth Barry and Robbie Keane bot didn't result in  PL action but somehow both complaints " went away" then in 2012 they had to issue an apology to Fulham over Dempsey . In 2017 they were found guilty of tapping up a Soke youth player and only last week the VVD and the apology made to Southampton 

Now I don't forget things and my memory of tapping up and Liverpool goes back to 2005 when they were said to be making a complaint if eveidence was found that we had made an approach to Gerrard. So for me if there is any evidence re Solanke then let's make a complaint 

Just some further thoughts. The earliest date it seems that Solanke could have any discussions with Liverpool would have been Sunday 21 May. Bear in mind he was away with England in Korea so would have to be given permission to speak to Liverpool which is possible but and here's the biggie there is no way he would have been given, mid tournament to leave the group and have a full medical and quite simply I can't see any PL club investing what will be several million on a player without a full medical. 

Lets get those murderers banned from signing players for a couple of windows. Can't think of anything sweeter.

I apologise for going on about this but we all know how often other clubs supporters go on about class but I thought it would be helpful to copy the rules and I would be interested in others opinions as to their take on what could quite possibly have been an illegal approach to Solanke.

Before reading the extracts copied below from the current PL rulebook you need to factor in the following

1) We played in the FA cup final on Saturday 27 May. 

2) Solanke could not , unless we authorised  him to do so  or issue the relevant form in advance, , before a certain period of time even talk to anyone.Yet they, Liverpool, announced  he was signing for them on Tuesday 30 May. 

 

Ok the  rule is the standard ruling. In effect most clubs players would  have to be notified by  Saturday 20 May. But as I said we were due to play in the FA cup final on 27 May

So here's the rule

V.17.2.

 On or before the third Saturday in May in the year in which the Player’s contract is to expire or, in the circumstances mentioned in Rule U.33, within four days of the last relevant F.A. Cup match, UEFA Champions League match, UEFA Europa League match or League Match in that year having been played, the Transferor Club must send to the Player Form 23 offerind him a new contract on the terms therein set out, which must be no less favourable than those in his current contract; 

 

There is mention of rule U33 . When you make an offer to the player to an out of contract player you have to send a copy of that offer again for most players that would be the 3rd Saturday in May but U33 is no more that linking th extension to clubs still involved.

 

 

U.33 The date by which each Club is required by Rule U.32 to give confirmat  to the Board shall be extended in the case of a Club which on the third Saturday in May in any year is still participating in the F.A. Cup, the UEFA Champions League or the UEFA Europa League or has yet to play a League Match.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

Edited June 12, 20179 yr by terraloon

they're Liverpool so the media will ignore everything. 

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

they're Liverpool so the media will ignore everything. 

Didn't they just get scorched for the VVD move?
 

I haven't read much in the way of condemnation. More a sense that 'everyone does it, it's no big deal'. Which was definitely not the way the press reported our tapping up of Ashley Cole.

48 minutes ago, Backbiter said:

I haven't read much in the way of condemnation. More a sense that 'everyone does it, it's no big deal'. Which was definitely not the way the press reported our tapping up of Ashley Cole.

I read one article which basically  boiled down to, 'poor Liverpool, FSG are incompetent at transfers.'

As the song goes..

'Always the victim

It's never your fault'.

3 hours ago, Backbiter said:

As the song goes..

'Always the victim

It's never your fault'.

Seems like you're playing the same card from a Chelsea perspective though?

 

I don't follow, sorry.