Dominic Solanke

[IliyaKrostin]

After today, I can understand why he wants to leave. Even when the season is over and there are few games without any meaning, youth still can't get minutes.

[Remodez]

Would be a very smart decision for his career if he did leave. 

[dan_cfc]

He hasn't exactly lit up the dutch league he's had some good games scored some goals but nothing to suggest he's good enough to be playing in our first team squad, Personally think Abraham has more about him.

[kiwi1691]

Come on, he's a young lad with ambition. That doesn't make him a c**t and I don't think you honestly believe that so I'm happy to edit this post whenever you calm down a bit.

 

Not worth saying things we'll regret now is it mate?

 

If he can't look good in the Dutch league, how does he deserve a chance in the senior team. 

[big blue]

If he can't look good in the Dutch league, how does he deserve a chance in the senior team.

Kane didn't look too good in the championship but he's turned out alright. I don't think we will know if these lads are good enough unless they get a fair amount of minutes in the 1st team.

[Barn]

But at 18 if the club are trying to get him to sign up he must look at the fact that no youth gets a chance here and that'll be what's putting him off. Not necessarily the fact that he hasn't been playing for the first team yet.

[g3.7]

the telegraph claim his representatives are asking for £50'000 per week.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/25/chelseas-dominic-solanke-demands-50000-per-week/

 

surely that can't be the case.

[ShedEnder91]

Not sure who is leaking this story about his wage demands but to put it into context, Loftus-Cheek is on £60k a week but it's a structured deal like a lot of players. I'd imagine Solanke's is the same.

 

Either way it seems to have turned the story from being about youngsters looking to leave because they don't think they'll get a chance to one about greedy youngsters who want it all on a plate. I'd imagine it's somewhere in between.

 

The worry for us is that players might see us as a great place to learn how to play football, a place to win all the youth trophies going and then use that to get themselves a nice contract and a squad place at another club. Who could blame them? 

[strong centreback]

we sealed our fate a while ago, rlc getting 60k a week (structure or not) has led the way for similar promising youth to demand similar sums, id like to think that maybe just maybe it is a ploy to force the club into using them by getting themselves on big wages, arguably though its just agents getting max amount possible.

[Remodez]

the telegraph claim his representatives are asking for £50'000 per week.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/25/chelseas-dominic-solanke-demands-50000-per-week/

 

surely that can't be the case.

Good on them. 

 

It's all to easy for the club to promise youth first team action, now it's time for them to put their money where their mouth is.

[the special one]

Good on them. 

 

It's all to easy for the club to promise youth first team action, now it's time for them to put their money where their mouth is.

 

A structured deal based on salary, performance and potential appearances/non appearances is a different proposition, but if they're demanding 50k up front i'd hope the club tell them to get f**ked.

Edited April 25, 2016 by the special one

[IliyaKrostin]

Crazy money, even RLC should not get 60k. Money destroys talents, where are the days that players used to play for their team because they loved the team and loved football. 

[PedroMendez]

I've got very cynical about what is written in the media and really struggle to believe anything that is written by Journalists especially when it comes to Chelsea. Stories seemingly just get past from one site to the next blowing ever more increasingly out of proportion and away from the truth, with each story just hyperbolising the last. It makes me find this very hard to believe and I personally can't see Solanke demanding £50,000 a week as he is just not going to get anywhere near that and certainly wouldn't be on a fraction of that if he were to be signed elsewhere (£30,000 is the maximum I could possibly see him getting from us which is coincidently what Pato is on).

It is the same with RLC I just can't see him being on £60,000 a week until I see it reported in Chelsea's accounts it could just as easily be a made up figure used to bash Chelsea in the latest fashion in football writing bashing Chelsea's inability to bring through youth despite the fact Chelsea are currently bringing through youth and have one of the younger squads in the league. It also doesn't help that contradictory figures seem to be floating around with some outlets quoting £40,000 and others £60,000. Admittedly more have been quoting the higher value, but figures like these are inherently always going to get inflated as it provides much more of a shock value.

The likely truth is that the wages of these young players will likely be a lot more reasonable than what has been quoted but the figure quoted will have a modicum of truth behind it by potentially being what they could achieve after maximising their bonuses.

 

[The Brit]

Disgusting if true...while club deserves criticism for how it's treated youth players, doesn't help that there have been too many kids who think they're the sh*t when they've done fcuk all and ask for silly money...not as if Solanke has been prolific in the piss poor Dutch league

Edited April 25, 2016 by The Brit

[Remodez]

A structured deal based on salary, performance and potential appearances/non appearances is a different proposition, but if they're demanding 50k up front i'd hope the club tell them to get f**ked.

It would be structured like RLC's most likely. 

[Remodez]

Worth mentioning that it's not Solanke himself asking for this amount. It's his representatives, which I think is his father basically. Can't blame them for wanting reassurance he will play and sadly it seems the only way to get that is to ensure he gets paid the wages of a first team player. 

[strong centreback]

I've got very cynical about what is written in the media and really struggle to believe anything that is written by Journalists especially when it comes to Chelsea. Stories seemingly just get past from one site to the next blowing ever more increasingly out of proportion and away from the truth, with each story just hyperbolising the last. It makes me find this very hard to believe and I personally can't see Solanke demanding £50,000 a week as he is just not going to get anywhere near that and certainly wouldn't be on a fraction of that if he were to be signed elsewhere (£30,000 is the maximum I could possibly see him getting from us which is coincidently what Pato is on).

It is the same with RLC I just can't see him being on £60,000 a week until I see it reported in Chelsea's accounts it could just as easily be a made up figure used to bash Chelsea in the latest fashion in football writing bashing Chelsea's inability to bring through youth despite the fact Chelsea are currently bringing through youth and have one of the younger squads in the league. It also doesn't help that contradictory figures seem to be floating around with some outlets quoting £40,000 and others £60,000. Admittedly more have been quoting the higher value, but figures like these are inherently always going to get inflated as it provides much more of a shock value.

The likely truth is that the wages of these young players will likely be a lot more reasonable than what has been quoted but the figure quoted will have a modicum of truth behind it by potentially being what they could achieve after maximising their bonuses.

 

 

The only thing id say to that is this, our wage bill is massive yet our first team is well short on numbers, even when you take into account the big earners we do have it points to big wages further down the chain too, id not be surprised if rlc was on the rumoured 60k as it might of been the only way the club could convince him he had a future here, like I said earlier maybe the players are thinking 2 fold with wage demands, earn a good whack whilst also maybe forcing the club to use them as they are on first team wages.

[TheChelseaBlues]

".. [solanke's] father appears to have treated negotiations as though his son has already proved himself at first-team level while the club value him as a highly promising player with the potential to break through.

[...] Solanke is believed to be concerned that there is not the same pathway for him at Chelsea as Kane has benefitted from at Spurs, although the England international was three years older than Solanke when he became a first-team regular.

-source: Telegraph"

Thanks papa Solanke, Im sure you have a wealth of experience scouting players to draw on and your son is a lock to hit 20 a season in England like Kane

f**k me what club is going to pay him 50k a week and play him often? Any club that can do one probably cant or wont do the other.

Edited April 26, 2016 by TheChelseaBlues

[ForeverCarefree]

I'm with Remodez on this one.

It's the most sensible ploy from the player's perspective.

We've bought no one through and played them regularly in over ten years, we're great at nurturing talent at youth level but we're completely clueless about how to help players transition into the first team.

Solanke doesn't want his highly promising career to stall before it's had a chance to get going and he'll point to how we've mismanaged top English talent before.

If he did secure good wages and assurances from the club he might just improve his odds of making it at Chelsea slightly.

[Ukraine Bolt]

I think we need to start structuring salaries similar to how Barcelona do, with the Neymar contract being a great example:

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/neymars-leaked-barcelona-contract-reveals-7731576(Yes it's the Mirror, however the the information is correct.)

 

Neymar is on a basic weekly wage of roughly £70,000.00. Let's be honest, for a player of his stature this is a bargain. The real money comes when he starts to play games and achieve targets. 

 

If he plays in 60% of the matches he pockets himself £700,000.00.

 

Winning trophies such as the league, cup, champions league etc. will also ensure the player receives a booster payment.

 

Finally they receive payment for individual accolades such as winning Ballon D'or.

 

Solanke can afford to request a large sum from the club because he knows how desperate the club are for a player to breakthrough into the squad. I think £25,000.00 would be a fair sum with performance related bonuses. For example, every match say squad he's in he gets an extra £5,000.00. Every match he starts gets him £7,500.00. Every goal £2,000.00 etc. This way if he does nothing he sits on £25,000.00 for a few years (hardly anything for the club). It will also give him a motive to push himself and break into the first team if he really is motivated by money. It's a win/win for both club and player. 

[ShedEnder91]

I think we need to start structuring salaries similar to how Barcelona do, with the Neymar contract being a great example:

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/neymars-leaked-barcelona-contract-reveals-7731576(Yes it's the Mirror, however the the information is correct.)

 

Neymar is on a basic weekly wage of roughly £70,000.00. Let's be honest, for a player of his stature this is a bargain. The real money comes when he starts to play games and achieve targets. 

 

If he plays in 60% of the matches he pockets himself £700,000.00.

 

Winning trophies such as the league, cup, champions league etc. will also ensure the player receives a booster payment.

 

Finally they receive payment for individual accolades such as winning Ballon D'or.

 

Solanke can afford to request a large sum from the club because he knows how desperate the club are for a player to breakthrough into the squad. I think £25,000.00 would be a fair sum with performance related bonuses. For example, every match say squad he's in he gets an extra £5,000.00. Every match he starts gets him £7,500.00. Every goal £2,000.00 etc. This way if he does nothing he sits on £25,000.00 for a few years (hardly anything for the club). It will also give him a motive to push himself and break into the first team if he really is motivated by money. It's a win/win for both club and player. 

 

How do we know that isn't what we're already doing? 

 

This £50,000 figure has been leaked to the press and it makes one party look greedy. Is that an accident?

 

My personal opinion is that agents should act in the best interests of their client and that is what they're doing here. I'd be 99% certain that the figure that's being thrown around is a top-level number that is only reached after a number of targets are met.

 

Put it like this - if it's a five year contract and you reach the first-team in year two then there's no real obligation for the club to re-negotiate until year four, broadly speaking.

 

But if you have a base wage of c£20k with a £50k wage that kicks in after you reach the first team (or more, maybe it's based on international appearances, maybe it includes image rights or a cut of them etc.) then both parties can feel secure.

 

We've also seen that more expensive assets get more chances in the team because there's a financial incentive to play them. Trying to paint the lad or his stepdad as greedy without knowing all the facts is a little harsh, but it benefits the club because if he does leave they can say 'well we wanted to give him a chance but he asked for too much'. 

Edited April 26, 2016 by ShedEnder91

[Ukraine Bolt]

How do we know that isn't what we're already doing? 

 

This £50,000 figure has been leaked to the press and it makes one party look greedy. Is that an accident?

 

My personal opinion is that agents should act in the best interests of their client and that is what they're doing here. I'd be 99% certain that the figure that's being thrown around is a top-level number that is only reached after a number of targets are met.

 

Put it like this - if it's a five year contract and you reach the first-team in year two then there's no real obligation for the club to re-negotiate until year four, broadly speaking.

 

But if you have a base wage of c£20k with a £50k wage that kicks in after you reach the first team (or more, maybe it's based on international appearances, maybe it includes image rights or a cut of them etc.) then both parties can feel secure.

 

We've also seen that more expensive assets get more chances in the team because there's a financial incentive to play them. Trying to paint the lad or his stepdad as greedy without knowing all the facts is a little harsh, but it benefits the club because if he does leave they can say 'well we wanted to give him a chance but he asked for too much'. 

 

Not quite sure if you're insinuating i've tried to paint the lad as greedy in my post or if you're talking about the media/club. I also never said that the club aren't already doing that. I just offered my opinion on how i believe the club should negotiate going forward.

[ShedEnder91]

Not quite sure if you're insinuating i've tried to paint the lad as greedy in my post or if you're talking about the media/club. I also never said that the club aren't already doing that. I just offered my opinion on how i believe the club should negotiate going forward.

 

I'm referring to he media and the way some fans are jumping on the lad based on this.

 

I agree that your approach is sensible, but we already do that in some instances.

[Adam]

This is nothing new. When RLC was 17, he was supposedly making £1.7m a year. 

[PedroMendez]

This is nothing new. When RLC was 17, he was supposedly making £1.7m a year. 

Supposedly is the key word here as lots of avenues quote a £5000 a week basic salary, which is over 6 times less than that.