We have won the last two title's because of our flat track record, Costa's movement creates the extra space that is crucial to having an impeccable record vs lesser sides, look at United and Liverpool's struggles in that regard, it isn't as easy as it looks. Even when Costa is beyond bad and is having games he can't control a ball properly he still gives us that. Simeone, Jose, Hiddink and now Conte, four multitrophy manager's and not one has dropped him.

2 minutes ago, Argo said:

We have won the last two title's because of our flat track record, Costa's movement creates the extra space that is crucial to having an impeccable record vs lesser sides, look at United and Liverpool's struggles in that regard, it isn't as easy as it looks. Even when Costa is beyond bad and is having games he can't control a ball properly he still gives us that. Simeone, Jose, Hiddink and now Conte, four multitrophy manager's and not one has dropped him.

Has there actually been anyone to drop Costa for at Chelsea? 

He has said in an interview to south American press he is happy in London and wants to stay, only if he is not favoured by teh manager would he move and the only club he would go is Athleti...have to be honest I think this is mostly to do with teh fact China just imposed a 100% tax on foreign players. Personally I'm happy, you knwo what Costa brings he is a top striker, deadly on his day and even off boil creates room for others, his runs are teh best in the business,  a top team usually has 2 top strikers, dont see why we cant still bring one in with CL football, have them compete, one striker shouldn't go all season all competitions.

9 minutes ago, Argo said:

We have won the last two title's because of our flat track record, Costa's movement creates the extra space that is crucial to having an impeccable record vs lesser sides, look at United and Liverpool's struggles in that regard, it isn't as easy as it looks. Even when Costa is beyond bad and is having games he can't control a ball properly he still gives us that. Simeone, Jose, Hiddink and now Conte, four multitrophy manager's and not one has dropped him.

Well statistically, Costa's goals have won us more points this season than any other player in any other team

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4447108/Chelsea-news-Diego-Costa-s-goals-earned-points.html

you think back to games like West Brom at home + Palace away and how difficult we found those teams to break down only for Costa to come up big and save our blushes.

4 hours ago, DonAntonio said:

He has said in an interview to south American press he is happy in London and wants to stay, only if he is not favoured by teh manager would he move and the only club he would go is Athleti...have to be honest I think this is mostly to do with teh fact China just imposed a 100% tax on foreign players. Personally I'm happy, you knwo what Costa brings he is a top striker, deadly on his day and even off boil creates room for others, his runs are teh best in the business,  a top team usually has 2 top strikers, dont see why we cant still bring one in with CL football, have them compete, one striker shouldn't go all season all competitions.

Have to agree that he wants to stay now because of the China move being made impossible unless we give the buying club a 50% discount! He kissed the badge for the first time just after this news, normally I'd be happy but I can't help but feel he's just trying to get us back onside after waving goodbye.

Still he's a good player, the 2 half seasons he's played like a world class striker we've won the league, hopefully he will help us win another next season if he stays.

1 hour ago, sonic90 said:

Have to agree that he wants to stay now because of the China move being made impossible unless we give the buying club a 50% discount! He kissed the badge for the first time just after this news, normally I'd be happy but I can't help but feel he's just trying to get us back onside after waving goodbye.

Still he's a good player, the 2 half seasons he's played like a world class striker we've won the league, hopefully he will help us win another next season if he stays.

Exactly this.

He is a mercenary. Towards the start of the season, he had a similar reaction before ATM finally went out and got Gameiro. I was ridiculed for ridiculing Costa's attitude on the pitch and later on he himself admitted that he wanted to leave for ATM in the last summer. The guy is a diva, not a good one too. I would gladly sell him and buy auba and lukaku, if possible.

8 hours ago, Argo said:

I do, League title's. We have won 2 in 3 year's now with less than impressive big game record's and Costa is a main reason for that, his movement causes absolute havoc for defender's which makes our job breaking deep defenses easier. Watch us drop a lot of silly point's next season should he go.

Did he win those titles on his own? He also switched off midseason both in 2014-15 and 2016-17, and the team was suffering because of it, there were plenty of games where he was more of a nuisanse to his own side than opposition and it felt like playing with ten men.

We won't drop many silly points if he goes if we manage to replace him with top quality striker. Nobody's saying just sell him without replacement.

Absolutely. And no one should keep player, who do such thing like Costa. He started bargain at the middle of the season and trying to twist our hands, Conte even take him out of the team for 1 match. This put the coach and the whole team under stress.

And then he start playing under his level big time. He was trying to play by himself and not helping the team and it was obvious sabotage. He did exactly the same with Mourinho. So what, we need to wait to get the result from last year and to sack and Conte to f***** sell this guy ?
He is so much overated, that i just can`t understand why there is still people that want this guy to stay. He did all to himself and now he need to leave asap.

Also i`m almost certain we need see again Costa from the start of the season. Just like Torres, hes form is drop big time and i`m not sure he can get it back.

And you put that his technique sucks and he lost some speed, and he can`t outrun defenders, cause hes speed is average - and you have some serious problem.

This is the time that we need to sell Costa, or we are going to suffer.

Not to mention this year he will turn 29, you can`t get a more perfect moment then this to sell him.

And if the team wasn`t playing so good in this 2 season, Costa would not be at that level.

And for god sake this guy have only 2 CL goals, so stop saying that it will be so hard to replace him.

Lukaku/Aubameyang/Morata will do better then him to me. Or some striker with good technique, will help the team a lot more.

 

 

 

If this is true, Atletico can f**k right off

 

42 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

If this is true, Atletico can f**k right off

 

If he is determined to only go to Atlético, there's very little we can do. We can keep him as 1st choice and put up with his flaws. Or we can sign another top striker, and he will probably sulk and moan all season. Or we take whatever Atlético offer and move on. 

£20m is laughable. Even if this had been before the influx of tv money which sent the market into overdrive I would have laughed in their face. You can't even buy half a John Stones for 20m.

We can threat him with whole season bench. Same what happened to Malouda. So we have a lot of option and im pretty sure Costa will not want to be benched all season long. So he will not have option but to leave.

 

At least Athletico are nearer to his true worth lol

25 minutes ago, brakeit said:

We can threat him with whole season bench. Same what happened to Malouda. So we have a lot of option and im pretty sure Costa will not want to be benched all season long. So he will not have option but to leave.

 

if he got the malouda treatment he would be worth even less than the £20m Atlético are reported to be offering. Not to mention the wages we would still be paying him. Threatening to isolate him in the reserves isn't an option for me. 

6 hours ago, didierforever said:

Exactly this.

He is a mercenary. Towards the start of the season, he had a similar reaction before ATM finally went out and got Gameiro. I was ridiculed for ridiculing Costa's attitude on the pitch and later on he himself admitted that he wanted to leave for ATM in the last summer. The guy is a diva, not a good one too. I would gladly sell him and buy auba and lukaku, if possible.

Now address this, he wanted to leave at the start of the season, did he down tools or was he scoring in every game and lead league scorer until he dipped a bit towards the end, that's the sign of a true pro, if he wears your shirt he plays 100 % weather happy or not, he may want to leave but even though was crucial to our title, scoring goals in all those 1-0 victories where he has been the difference between a draw and a win, he has won us at least 10 games on his own, and almost did the same in the cup final I'll take a diva like that anyday 

12 minutes ago, DonAntonio said:

Now address this, he wanted to leave at the start of the season, did he down tools or was he scoring in every game and lead league scorer until he dipped a bit towards the end, that's the sign of a true pro, if he wears your shirt he plays 100 % weather happy or not, he may want to leave but even though was crucial to our title, scoring goals in all those 1-0 victories where he has been the difference between a draw and a win, he has won us at least 10 games on his own, and almost did the same in the cup final I'll take a diva like that anyday 

I can give it a different spin and say that since Jan it was confirmed by various sources that Costa's head had been tilted towards China which ended up in a lot of poor performances. Or we can go to the season before this, where it seemed almost obvious that he had downed tools.

I am grateful to all that Costa has done, but dont want a player whose future is in question every transfer window. There are a lot of players who give us exactly what costa gives us and even more. We should be looking towards them

1 minute ago, didierforever said:

I can give it a different spin and say that since Jan it was confirmed by various sources that Costa's head had been tilted towards China which ended up in a lot of poor performances. Or we can go to the season before this, where it seemed almost obvious that he had downed tools.

I am grateful to all that Costa has done, but dont want a player whose future is in question every transfer window. There are a lot of players who give us exactly what costa gives us and even more. We should be looking towards them

Name them, then their price, then who else wants them, only player I'd swap with Costa is aubameyang, even then there is a risk he may not fire in the PL, I think he will but still a risk, yet we have a man who will guarantee us goals, I have no probs giving him serious competition and if he doesn't rise next season sell him but no chance would I sell him if we can keep in only an insane club sells a 20 goal striker if they don't have to 

8 minutes ago, DonAntonio said:

Name them, then their price, then who else wants them, only player I'd swap with Costa is aubameyang, even then there is a risk he may not fire in the PL, I think he will but still a risk, yet we have a man who will guarantee us goals, I have no probs giving him serious competition and if he doesn't rise next season sell him but no chance would I sell him if we can keep in only an insane club sells a 20 goal striker if they don't have to 

Auba, Lukaku, Morata, Lacazette, Antoine, Belloti, Sanchez (we have played Hazard,Pedro,willian trio and it worked decently well). Well, if we are looking for quality, we will have to pay OTT in today's market, would not we? Or we can simply not buy players we dont need (VVD) and use those funds in case we are getting short.

And yet our club is (if you believe even 1% of these rumors), looking to sell him. Makes you think does not it. 

Edited May 29, 20179 yr by didierforever

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2017/5/29/15706752/costa-hopes-both-lukaku-and-batshuayi-will-get-to-play-for-chelsea
Make of those comments what you will. 

3 minutes ago, didierforever said:

Auba, Lukaku, Morata, Lacazette, Antoine, Belloti, Sanchez (we have played Hazard,Pedro,willian trio and it worked decently well). Well, if we are looking for quality, we will have to pay OTT in today's market, would not we? Or we can simply not buy players we dont need (VVD) and use those funds in case we are getting short.

And yet our club is (if you believe even 1% of these rumors), looking to sell him. Makes you think does not it. 

Lukaku disappears and has no intelligence, that's a downgrade, morata I like him but so does real and wants to keep him, doesn't guarantee goals in the PL, griezman - you actually think that's realistic, Sanchez isn't a striker, belloti looks good, I'd add him to costa not place all our bets on him, so from that list who is a realistic upgrade - no one, now to upgrade garry almost any good CB I name would be an upgrade, who said we want to sell Diego? Are you serious? Your football understanding is the polar opposite to mine, the club is desperate to keep him, he wants to go, and we said well if we get silly China money do be it, we categorically want to keep him if he will stay, and every pundit on the planet including frank said we need to keep hazard and Diego to do well, being without a striker who will guarantee goals will kill your season what will adding a top CB to compete for a spot do, where is your logic other than " we don't need" we ducking do, our defence isn't good enough, we have 150 mil prize money and 60 mil for oscar plus whoever we sell, we want a top team so you suggest don't bring in a top CB to compete but sell our best striker since drogbas prime, brilliant logic   

15 minutes ago, DonAntonio said:

Lukaku disappears and has no intelligence, that's a downgrade, morata I like him but so does real and wants to keep him, doesn't guarantee goals in the PL, griezman - you actually think that's realistic, Sanchez isn't a striker, belloti looks good, I'd add him to costa not place all our bets on him, so from that list who is a realistic upgrade - no one, now to upgrade garry almost any good CB I name would be an upgrade, who said we want to sell Diego? Are you serious? Your football understanding is the polar opposite to mine, the club is desperate to keep him, he wants to go, and we said well if we get silly China money do be it, we categorically want to keep him if he will stay, and every pundit on the planet including frank said we need to keep hazard and Diego to do well, being without a striker who will guarantee goals will kill your season what will adding a top CB to compete for a spot do, where is your logic other than " we don't need" we ducking do, our defence isn't good enough, we have 150 mil prize money and 60 mil for oscar plus whoever we sell, we want a top team so you suggest don't bring in a top CB to compete but sell our best striker since drogbas prime, brilliant logic   

And there in lies the issue. What proof is there that he wont down toold like 15/16? Wont come back 10kgs overwiegth for the season? Or throw his bibs around like a baby? He wants to go and we need to move on from the daily soap opera.

Also, why is not Antoine realistic? If we are willing to pay 50mil for players like Perisic and VVD, why cant we pay 80mil for a world class player like Antoine?

I know sanchez is not a striker, but did u read what I wrote in the brackets?

Lukaku outscored Costa this season and has the same number of goals as him in PL for the last 3 seasons while Costa played for the PL champions (2 times) and was supported by the likes of Hazard and Cesc. Sorry, but dont see the downgrade part. Morata is being heavily linked to Ac Milan, so RM might want to keep him but thats what happens when you want top players, you have to price them out and pay the big bucks. 

And again, we are looking to sell Costa because as you said he wants to leave. Then leave. He is no where near irreplacable. Infact, he is easily replacable.

Even I would say Costa and Hazard are essential for next season and we need to keep them to do well. I would say the same about mane for liverpool. Does not make Mane a world class player or irreplacable. Considering that he himself wants to leave and he has some glaring glaring shortcomings in his overall play, We can replace him with other quality players (like Antoine/Lukaku/Morata).

TOP Cb meaning - VVD? Oh right. The next coming of Beckenbeaur, right? I wish we could see a parallel universe in which Andreas was not a Chelsea player and how many of us would be bigging him up and wanting him for 50mil. 

Edited May 29, 20179 yr by didierforever

3 minutes ago, didierforever said:

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2017/5/29/15706752/costa-hopes-both-lukaku-and-batshuayi-will-get-to-play-for-chelsea
Make of those comments what you will. 

translation : costa hopes both lukaku and batshuayi wil get to play for chelsea so he can be sold back to atleti

 

sheesh to think last month everything was sunshine and rainbows, diego's dream of moving away from england and it's evil weather finally came true, we're gonna get a modest 76million, tianjin quanjian will probably win bunch of trophies, oscar reunited with his father, everyone gets a happy ending. then comes the damn chinese government

Ffs that's too much to respond to without making progress, you can't "easily replace" Costa you never know how a striker gets on in a new league. Even the same league -Torres, it's always a risk with a striker and if you get it wrong your seasons f**ked, maybe better we avoid each other on threads, opinions too contrasting, in difference of opinion I can see people's angle, not you, not at all, we don't "need"'a CB but we really do, but we "do need" to sell our second best striker in club history because he wants a move st some point, well sorry to burst your bubble so does hazard and tibo shall we sell those divas too, lovely, again brilliant logic, Costa likes Chelsea he doesn't like London doesn't mean a thing, on the pitch he always tries his best, and btw when you put things in brackets doesn't make it logical...like replacing a striker with a false 9 when we already have a better false 9 and change our league winning system because you don't like a striker that just bagged us 20, you don't half chat some bollox 

Tibo is getting a contract extension, last I heard. Hazard I am not so sure, but while I think he will leave, atleast his future is not a source of constant negativity. So, no they are no where near diva like.

At some point? Mate, in his 3 years, at what point did not he want to move or rather rumored to want to move, and there is no smoke without any fire? If he does not like London, do we as a club move to some other city now? 

sanchez has played half a season as a striker and quite successfully i would say. WE as a team played a few games the same way, quite successfully too. And given the Costa hardly wins aerial balls and headers, we would only be adding a world class player in that position.

Also, why are you confusing 2 different things? We dont need a Cb because imo, we have an as good CB on loan with a much higher ceiling. As for Costa, his wave goodbye, his comments, all are indicative of him calling it a goodbye to chelsea (be it because of london, the waether, the ants, the cockroaches or whatever reason). So the only LOGICAL thing is to replace him to the best we can. Yes, there is risk. There is risk in any buy that any club makes. You think there wont be a risk buying VVD for 50mil? The amount of pressure on him. Remember luiz at PSG with that price tag and the dog abuse he got when he made the mistake against barca in CL. 

Yes, we clearly have way different thinking. so Lets agree to disagree. 

Seems likely the best way to deal with atletico is to stick to our guns and asking price with Diego or find a player we want from them and trade Diego plus cash for them. Diego talks about wanting to play in the world cup right? 2 seasons in the reserves nowhere near the first team if he is only going to go to club who offer us peanuts after all the good graces we have dealt with them shows our club a great lack of respect. If this is the case let him rot. We did it to malouda.