Do any of you think maybe this really is Jose's third season syndrome? Could it be his final season with us, or do we expect him to turn things around?


To me it seems we are having problems inside our team. Ivanovic especially. 

This 3rd season syndrome thing is crap. He has only been at 2 clubs for 3 full seasons, us and Real Madrid. His first time here in his 3rd season, he won an F.A cup, League cup, got us to the Champions League semi final and 2nd in the league. That is a successful season.

Some people should be carful what they wish for, I'm sure he will turn us round. Heard some people being upset, do they want Sam Allardyce?!!!

One of Jose's problems is the loss of winners in the dressing room, Drogba and Cech are huge characters to replace, add to this the other serial winners are struggling for form now themselves. The most talented players in the side aren't necessarily the biggest characters and can shrink when the pressures on.

it wouldn't be us that swings the final blow though. if roman and the board don't see improvements then naturally they will get agitated and take it out on jose. at the moment the poor results are also increased by jose's decision making in term of picking personnel. 

One of Jose's problems is the loss of winners in the dressing room, Drogba and Cech are huge characters to replace, add to this the other serial winners are struggling for form now themselves. The most talented players in the side aren't necessarily the biggest characters and can shrink when the pressures on.

 

 

You know, I was starting to think this too. I get the feeling that Cech and Drogba made huge contributions in the background last season and their loss is being felt.

I think Jose gets enough stick in the press without any other whispers.

Mez

You know, I was starting to think this too. I get the feeling that Cech and Drogba made huge contributions in the background last season and their loss is being felt.

 

Undoubtedly, these players have been in the spine of our most successful period as a club, they are enormous characters who have played together under a plethora of managers each having the winning mentality to dig deep when times are tough. Replacing these will be a humongous task for Jose, plenty of players have skill, molding them into a team of winners is hard. I sincerely hope that the club has a plan for JT to stay part of the setup when he eventually hangs his boots up.

I believe complacency is a problem too. We won the league, so weve done it and its hard to put that hunger in the players again.

He needs to stop picking players on reputation and look at form more.

I believe complacency is a problem too. We won the league, so weve done it and its hard to put that hunger in the players again.

Aye. We needed to recycle our squad much more this summer to keep our players on their toes.

 

Asides from Pedro it's just same old same old this season for the rest of the starting 11.

He needs to stop picking players on reputation and look at form more.

He's proven he can do that.. He is also fiercely loyal to players who have served him well, as he should be. It's a balance. But he dropped Cole when it became clear Cole couldn't cut it anymore.

Ivan will be dropped next game, pretty confident of it but hopefully he will be able to find form again.

All those saying thanks Ivan but f**k of should have a look at them selves, essentially telling a player who has been with us 10 years, won everything with us and has put everything in to f**k of???? f**king shambles...

I think there's some complacency, some players just not giving the performances we rightly expect and perhaps a slight edge off our motivation just because we won it last year. I can just imagine that our guys are more keyed up about the CL this time around than the EPL.

 

I'd love to see Jose drop Ivan, put Dave at RB and give Baba a run at LB - but will he? His loyalty to some players may be really tested soon enough - does Hazard need a reminder that he's not yet the world's best?   

Ivan will be dropped next game, pretty confident of it but hopefully he will be able to find form again.

All those saying thanks Ivan but f**k of should have a look at them selves, essentially telling a player who has been with us 10 years, won everything with us and has put everything in to f**k of???? f**king shambles...

Spot on, tired of looking at the over the top Ivan comments, he's been poor, but lets not kick a legend when he's down, it's ridiculous, he's been fantastic for us prior to this season.

Spot on, tired of looking at the over the top Ivan comments, he's been poor, but lets not kick a legend when he's down, it's ridiculous, he's been fantastic for us prior to this season.

Just like that Ivan is probably as disappointed as anyone. Look at him at the end and he's pretty much out on his feet, he's a player used to winning and he's being beaten time and time again. He will be feeling pretty sh*t and asking questions of him self and his career right now

You know, I was starting to think this too. I get the feeling that Cech and Drogba made huge contributions in the background last season and their loss is being felt.

We missed JT on the pitch today, significant I felt.

I wonder if something has happened behind the scenes and the players are being sh*t on purpose to get Jose out.

I wonder if something has happened behind the scenes and the players are being sh*t on purpose to get Jose out.

Yeah, yeah that's probably it.

sh*t on purpose.

Yeah.

We lack the big characters, some of the most talented players don't have that. This is a test and the players we have up to it? We shall see..

Look at the current team compared to the back to back title winners and there just aren't as many leaders.

Cech, Terry, Carvalho, Gallas, Makelele, Lampard, Drogba were all huge personalities and leaders.

The likes of Cahill, Matic, Fabregas, Willian, Oscar don't even come close to them.

Id pay to watch training the next two weeks. JT especially

At the moment I'd pay a hypnotist to make me forget that we're playing.

Edited August 30, 20159 yr by Floyd25

some can't take the rough with the smooth! perhaps some should of attended matches when we were in the 2nd division! like boro putting us down!!!

It's not a third-season syndrome. The tactical (inability to counter-attack, no attacking structure, RB not covered defensively) and squad problems (lack of leadership) have been present for at least two seasons in various forms.

It's just that they've decided to manifest themselves in August instead of November or March, at this stage.

 

 

They've been covered ad nauseum in recent days but whenever people brought them up as warning flags in the past, they were dismissed as trolls. Lol.

 

Some weren't alive then, anyway the expectations are much different now.