I can see why clubs like to have a "Director of Football" type role to oversee transfers.

 

Someone made the point that Jose was actually quite a long serving manager at 2-3 years ... wasn't he something like 3rd or 4th in the PL longevity list when he left ?

 

The point is that if all the big clubs expect a turnover of managers in a 3 year (max) cycle, then there has to be someone at the club with an eye on transfer policy for the longer term. hence why people like Emenalo have jobs, or there are transfer committees etc etc. It does make sense when you think about it from the club's perspective.

What a disappointment if we end up with Pellegrini. Kicker (pretty reliable) basically saying that Man City are the option for Pep (no surprises there). No rumours about Conte so far, unfortunately. Simeone seems to be the only hope for now 

Edited December 23, 201510 yr by MANoWAR

I don't think we would need 10 players if pep were to come.

Courtois

Zouma matic

Azpiliucuta RODRIGUEZ

NEVES

Fabregas

Willian

Pedro GREIZMANN hazard

I'd imagine matic would become a ball playing centre back, but I think just signing rodriguez from wolfsburg, neves from porto who has a buy out clause, and swapping costa for greizmann to play false nine.

We will probably end up with mancini though, but it still fun to speculate.

See, I can't remember if your a poster who generally what's youth given a chance buy the above just goes against the idea of any youth progression. Which was a major gripe for many with Jose

German Kicker saying that Pep will join City. Understandably, they have a better squad, money and people run the transfers who know their stuff.

 

I read that Simeone won't even consider working with Emenalo either. I guess no one would. Maybe we should just let the players manage themselves? They seem to think they're good at it.

Or a certain Nigerian 'individual' can take his seat in the hotseat and taste some real 'palpable discord'.

See, I can't remember if your a poster who generally what's youth given a chance buy the above just goes against the idea of any youth progression. Which was a major gripe for many with Jose

I'm not really bothered either way with the youth tbh. It would be nice to have youth players in the team, but it just doesn't happen at top clubs anymore.

That team isn't really 1 i'd pick personally, just more of an example of how ridiculous the story about guardiola wanting 10 new players was.

I personally think it would be a good start if we could just get a couple of reliable squad players.

I'm not really bothered either way with the youth tbh. It would be nice to have youth players in the team, but it just doesn't happen at top clubs anymore.

That team isn't really 1 i'd pick personally, just more of an example of how ridiculous the story about guardiola wanting 10 new players was.

I personally think it would be a good start if we could just get a couple of reliable squad players.

OK as I say I couldn't remember with your self zone posters want both worlds which just won't happen.

For me I would say the RLC should be given a chance, mainly because he fits a real need in the team. I think we lack some physicality in the center of the pitch and the boy can offer that with the quality of a very decent footballer. Next to RLC and with fabregas or Oscar I think we would look much stronger.

Also not buying in to the 10 new players for me we need to work out what we have, that means giving remy a run of games to see if he's up to it. That means giving RLC a go and christiansan next season before we splash, 40 million.

Also anyone thinking pep will develop the youth may want to consider that he was barca b manager at one time so he knew the players he was brining through

Edited December 23, 201510 yr by barak81

German Kicker saying that Pep will join City. Understandably, they have a better squad, money and people run the transfers who know their stuff.

I read that Simeone won't even consider working with Emenalo either. I guess no one would. Maybe we should just let the players manage themselves? They seem to think they're good at it.

City have been horrible with their transfers lately £70m+ on a couple of very average CB's, £30m on Bony, 2×£50m on a couple of wingers etc

Give me Emenalo's work any day, the hate he cops on here from José FC supporters is ridiculous.

City have been horrible with their transfers lately £70m+ on a couple of very average CB's, £30m on Bony, 2×£50m on a couple of wingers etc

Give me Emenalo's work any day, the hate he cops on here from José FC supporters is ridiculous.

 

Agreed. Give me Hector & Djilobodji over Otamendi any day.

Agreed. Give me Hector & Djilobodji over Otamendi any day.

Give Terry, Cahill and Zouma(and even Christensen) over Otamendi.

Hector and Djilobodji were business buys, not first team buys. We tried for Stones for that.

Give Terry, Cahill and Zouma(and even Christensen) over Otamendi.

Hector and Djilobodji were business buys, not first team buys. We tried for Stones for that.

 

I'd definitely take Otamendi over Cahill. He hasn't had a great start at City but he's a superb defender.

We need to find a good cup manager. Allardyce, Megson, someone of that ilk. With the grim possibility of Mourinho at United and Guardiola at Citeh the league title is gone for a few years so we need someone who can push Flopp and his under-performing scousers all the way in a league cup run.

Whoever we get I hope we can develop into a formidable team again. My fear is that this whole episode has knocked us back a few years.

I'd definitely take Otamendi over Cahill. He hasn't had a great start at City but he's a superb defender.

Yeah, dont get me wrong Otamendi isnt a bad defender i just dont think the difference is that great of a upgrade.

Whoever we get I hope we can develop into a formidable team again. My fear is that this whole episode has knocked us back a few years.

I actually had a Tottenham fan today arguing that this is the start of our decline and as much as I said it was complete bollix his argument had some thought and thrust behind it.

Firstly, he was absolutely fecking delighted that Roman has, for the second time, fired the best manager we have ever had and one of the best in the world. His words not mine.

Second, unlike the last time Mourinho got the bullet we have a direct EPL rival in Citeh that Roman cannot compete with financially.

Third, the door practically hanging open at United with the money and clout their brand has and the seeming inevitability that José will walk through it.

His fourth point, it is unlikely another top manager, and I did agree there aren't that many who are proven consistently at different clubs, will rush to us with no CL football and probably a major restructuring job to do in the summer when Hazard and others decide SW6 is not where they want to stay while we re-build.

Normally when I talk to a Tottenham fan about football it is a joy and a pleasure. We each know our respective places in accordance with the status of our teams. As such I can revel in being condescending and patronising to my heart's content. It is the way God meant football to be. However, I did not like the points he made today.

Edited December 23, 201510 yr by just

I'm not really bothered either way with the youth tbh. It would be nice to have youth players in the team, but it just doesn't happen at top clubs anymore.

That team isn't really 1 i'd pick personally, just more of an example of how ridiculous the story about guardiola wanting 10 new players was.

I personally think it would be a good start if we could just get a couple of reliable squad players.

Top clubs dont use thier young players anymore? Someone should tell them

I'm still confident we are able to attract good players even if we end mid table by the end of the season ( No lower I hope). United was able to attract Di Maria despite having no European football last season, Liverpool managed to buy Bentake ( not top class but worthy a spot in our team). It's probably meant we aren't going to get Pogba or Griezman, but if we play it smart, we will be able to play good players who are hungry and willingly to prove themselves at Chelsea. Manager wise, if Hiddink does a good recovery job, no reason he can't be given another year ( unless he's retiring at the end of the season). A year later, other options will become available. If we do lose Hazard, so be it, we will cash in as he just signed a long contract. However, I don't expect a firesale or massive desertion from players. I'm still optimistic about the reason of the season and beyond.

just, every single word of your post is true. every word of it. you can add that it appears that spurs and liverpool have proper managers and arsenal are no longer a selling club to the list of reasons why we should be worried.

 

 

that is why this is such a terrible situation. that is why even if you feel there was no other option but for jose to go (as I do) you cannot be optimistic.

 

everything isn't lost- we have a lot of quality players on long term contracts and we do have a better youth academy than all of those clubs. but the club have very little margin for error. whoever is appointed next simply cannot be an avb or scolari.

Agreed. Give me Hector & Djilobodji over Otamendi any day.

Are you kidding me? I will take Otamendi over any defender in the EPL apart from Terry

Otamendi is world class, but playing with Mangala makes him looks average just like Mastic always look average when paired with a midfielder who doesn't track back

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2015/12/24/10662234/pep-guardiola-signs-three-year-deal-with-chelseas-rivals-according-to

Not pep then.

So does there current boss not still have a deal for next year?

So no matter what Pellegrini does he'll be out of the job, win the league, CL, out the door you go

German Kicker saying that Pep will join City. Understandably, they have a better squad, money and people run the transfers who know their stuff.

 

I read that Simeone won't even consider working with Emenalo either. I guess no one would. Maybe we should just let the players manage themselves? They seem to think they're good at it.

I can't blame Simeone for not willing to work with Emenalo if these media reports are true?

 

Ancelotti couldn't stand working with him when Emenalo was assistant coach and his number two. He seemed to undermine Roberto Di Matteo to the extent that he dictated his eventual sacking and appointed Benitez and it was well-known that Jose and him had a strained working relationship.

 

Emenalo is a huge problem for this club but it seems Roman favours him over other competent people and sadly I think his continual presence is going to become a recurring problem for the club. Roman really should have accepted his resignation in 2013 when he had the chance.

 

Simeone's demands of full control of the transfer policy sounds reasonable enough. He would be the manager after all and it's no secret that other managers have aired their grievances about the lack of control or authority when it comes to dealing with transfer movements.

 

Are you kidding me? I will take Otamendi over any defender in the EPL apart from Terry

I can't blame Simeone for not willing to work with Emenalo if these media reports are true?

 

Ancelotti couldn't stand working with him when Emenalo was assistant coach and his number two. He seemed to undermine Roberto Di Matteo to the extent that he dictated his eventual sacking and appointed Benitez and it was well-known that Jose and him had a strained working relationship.

 

Emenalo is a huge problem for this club but it seems Roman favours him over other competent people and sadly I think his continual presence is going to become a recurring problem for the club. Roman really should have accepted his resignation in 2013 when he had the chance.

 

Simeone's demands of full control of the transfer policy sounds reasonable enough. He would be the manager after all and it's no secret that other managers have aired their grievances about the lack of control or authority when it comes to dealing with transfer movements.

 

 

Do we believe that? Don't get me wrong, but I am at a point where I feel that our club is a bit of a propaganda driven micro state where fake news are created to change public opinion. 

 

At this point I would not be surprised if this proposed resignation of Emenealo was just a move to make him more popular. Just like those silly comments you hear from the players right now where they admit they have to blame themselves. Well, why did they not admit that when Jose was still here? 

 

The more I watch this farce the more I lose trust in the way this club is run.

I've lost trust in the board's capacity to build for the long-term and ensure sustainable success remains for many years to come rather than going for the quick-fix approach which is great in the present day but detrimental to our long-term interests.

 

There's no reason to believe that Emenalo's proposed resignation was a stunt to generate and change public opinion of him and the club. He's not a well-liked figure and stunt or no stunt I doubt opinions would change about his role within the club. I'm cynical about the board in some aspects but not in this case to be honest.

 

I just think Roman is very fond of him for whatever reason but his promotion through the ranks of the Chelsea hierarchy continually puzzles me considering his lack of credentials before he joined the club in 2007 and the questionable decisions and relationships he's had with previous managers since he's been a significant part of the club.