5 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Sorry but the guy was on his way to becoming a journeyman before Tuchel came in and turned his career round. We offered him over £200k+ to stay but turned it down because he wanted more, and now in one of the most difficult periods in the club’s history he’s jumping ship leaving us with a £40m+ void to fill.

Rudiger was becoming a cult hero, one of the most important members of the squad loved by the players, the coach and the fans but he’s leaving to fill his pockets and join a club where he’s as disposable as every other player they have because £200k+ for a CB isn’t enough apparently. 

All in all I feel he owed us some loyalty chose not to so I don’t ‘wish him well’ I’m looking forward to those spoiled Madrid fans start waving their white hankeys at him when he balloons a shot over the stadium from 40 yards every game like he does for us
 

Did you post the same about Hazard when he left? 

It's pretty standard for players to agree deals with a new club when the season hasn't ended yet. If a player wants to move on and play for "their dream club", that's their right. If a player wants more money, it's just about what a club is prepared to pay him. Rüdiger is under no obligation to extend his contract with us, and he doesn't owe us anything except play his best football for us. 

Supporters are the ones who are emotionally invested in a club, the players are usually not. 

1 minute ago, Valerie said:

Did you post the same about Hazard when he left? 

It's pretty standard for players to agree deals with a new club when the season hasn't ended yet. If a player wants to move on and play for "their dream club", that's their right. If a player wants more money, it's just about what a club is prepared to pay him. Rüdiger is under no obligation to extend his contract with us, and he doesn't owe us anything except play his best football for us. 

Supporters are the ones who are emotionally invested in a club, the players are usually not. 

Hazard could have tried to force a move to Madrid after years of carrying us but he didn’t, when we said he couldn’t have a move when he asked, he accepted it and gave his best, then when he did leave he went for £100m+ where we could rebuild the team. And also Rudiger should be looking at Hazard as an example that the grass isn’t always greener.

Rudiger is leaving us high and dry after being mainly mediocre for us apart from when Tuchel came in.

As you said, it’s his right to do it, but it doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do and it’s also my right to think he should have shown some loyalty to us given our situation.

1 hour ago, timetowaste said:

Hazard could have tried to force a move to Madrid after years of carrying us but he didn’t, when we said he couldn’t have a move when he asked, he accepted it and gave his best, then when he did leave he went for £100m+ where we could rebuild the team. And also Rudiger should be looking at Hazard as an example that the grass isn’t always greener.

Rudiger is leaving us high and dry after being mainly mediocre for us apart from when Tuchel came in.

As you said, it’s his right to do it, but it doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do and it’s also my right to think he should have shown some loyalty to us given our situation.

I agree and when Hazard and Rudiger come back we all know who will get the bigger applause.

Rudiger was a good LCB yet he was not the best, Hazard on the other hand.........

 

1 hour ago, timetowaste said:

Hazard could have tried to force a move to Madrid after years of carrying us but he didn’t, when we said he couldn’t have a move when he asked, he accepted it and gave his best, then when he did leave he went for £100m+ where we could rebuild the team. And also Rudiger should be looking at Hazard as an example that the grass isn’t always greener.

Rudiger is leaving us high and dry after being mainly mediocre for us apart from when Tuchel came in.

As you said, it’s his right to do it, but it doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do and it’s also my right to think he should have shown some loyalty to us given our situation.

If he's so mediocre, why are you so upset? His loyalty ends when his contract expires, just like other workers with temporary contracts. It's not his fault the club are in the position it's in, why would he not put himself first? I would do exactly the same if in my job, at the end of my contract, I would get an opportunity I coveted and for a lot of money.  There is no "right thing to do" as you put it, you may try and frame your dislike of his choice into taking the moral highground,  but it's only an employment choice.

Edited May 11, 20224 yr by Valerie

Seems the forum is split once again. This time on Toni leaving.

One the one hand:

And on those on the other:

28 minutes ago, Valerie said:

If he's so mediocre, why are you so upset? His loyalty ends when his contract expires, just like other workers with temporary contracts. It's not his fault the club are in the position it's in, why would he not put himself first? I would do exactly the same if in my job, at the end of my contract, I would get an opportunity I coveted and for a lot of money.  There is no "right thing to do" as you put it, you may try and frame your dislike of his choice into taking the moral highground,  but it's only an employment choice.

Because he WAS mediocre up until Tuchel came in and made him a very good defender in his system.

Let’s not make out that it’s the same as leaving a job for an extra £10k a year, I’m sure he’d have been fine on the £230k a week we were rumoured to have offered him. He’s left a club where he’s loved by everyone to go to another club for more money, that’s the reality.

If you’re fine with it that’s cool but me personally I feel that he should have shown some loyalty to Tuchel if not the club for making him the defender he is, if it wasn’t for TT he’d be going off on a free transfer to somewhere like Fiorentina or Galatasaray, not Real Madrid.

Obviously money talks, but there's just this enticing possibility that Rudiger wants to test himself in yet another country/league and then he'll have played in all 4 major European leagues after his career ends, pretty neat. Couldn't hold anything against him if that's part of the reason of his move. 

All in all, a decent signing for us considering his highs and lows, and the only real shame is he's leaving for free. Do your job properly for the next few matches and then it's all the best to you, Rudi. 

Money aside he's joining the Spanish champions who are in a CL final vs Chelsea who will have new owners and need a rebuild with a lot of uncertainty, we're also fighting for top 4 and are miles away from a title challenge. It's a no brainer really.

4 minutes ago, sonic90 said:

Money aside he's joining the Spanish champions who are in a CL final vs Chelsea who will have new owners and need a rebuild with a lot of uncertainty, we're also fighting for top 4 and are miles away from a title challenge. It's a no brainer really.

Exactly....................................what Eden Hazard thought.

1 minute ago, coco said:

Exactly....................................what Eden Hazard thought.

tbf Eden's picked up 2 La Liga titles since. btw if RM win the CL that means we receive the maximum bonuses set out in the contract lol

Just now, sonic90 said:

tbf Eden's picked up 2 La Liga titles since. btw if RM win the CL that means we receive the maximum bonuses set out in the contract lol

If they pay up tight arse gits.

56 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Because he WAS mediocre up until Tuchel came in and made him a very good defender in his system.

Let’s not make out that it’s the same as leaving a job for an extra £10k a year, I’m sure he’d have been fine on the £230k a week we were rumoured to have offered him. He’s left a club where he’s loved by everyone to go to another club for more money, that’s the reality.

If you’re fine with it that’s cool but me personally I feel that he should have shown some loyalty to Tuchel if not the club for making him the defender he is, if it wasn’t for TT he’d be going off on a free transfer to somewhere like Fiorentina or Galatasaray, not Real Madrid.

Nothing new in the move Rüdiger is making. If every time a Chelsea player moved on to bigger bucks I would cry about loyalty, I'd cried myself into the grave by now.

We'd better agree to disagree on this (btw an extra 10K a year really sounds good to me right now).

On 10/05/2022 at 18:59, dkw said:

And nor should we, he simple isn't that level of player, not even  close.

 

Apparently, there is big changes on the way with FFP where they will go after wages. It may actually be smart that we aren't putting all of these players on £300k a week contracts. 

Edited May 11, 20224 yr by Scott Harris

I, for one, am highly disappointed that nobody came up with a song for him to the tune of either; A Message to You Rudy by The Specials, Ruby by The Kaiser Chiefs or Here Comes The Hotstepper (Rudiger!) by Ini Kamize. Terrible. (I’d have done it by unfortunately shyness is a curse.) 
 

I am glad, however, that the people lazily trying to shoe horn him in to the ‘Chelsea’s number two’ song while Ivanovic’s grave is still fresh failed comprehensively. 
 

All the trophies he won weren’t bad either. 

Now the season is done, bar 2 dead rubbers that neither Leicester nor Watford have anything to gain or lose on, I would sooner TT leaves both Rudiger and AC out of the squads. Their heads and hearts are clearly elsewhere, let's cut that cord now. If there are some youth players worth a look here then give them some minutes. Otherwise let's AC and Toni Start packing their bags and also let Silva have a early start to his holiday break.

Can leave Sarr, James, Trev, Dave and any youth players needed to be called up to finish the season out.

We still need at least 3 points and I don't think Rudiger has downed tools, still was sprinting back to cover yesterday.

We were playing Liverpool  with their three mobile strikers, could not risk venturing forwards too much.

 

2 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

We still need at least 3 points and I don't think Rudiger has downed tools, still was sprinting back to cover yesterday.

We were playing Liverpool  with their three mobile strikers, could not risk venturing forwards too much.

 

With our GD, we need one point.

14 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Now the season is done, bar 2 dead rubbers that neither Leicester nor Watford have anything to gain or lose on, I would sooner TT leaves both Rudiger and AC out of the squads. Their heads and hearts are clearly elsewhere, let's cut that cord now. If there are some youth players worth a look here then give them some minutes. Otherwise let's AC and Toni Start packing their bags and also let Silva have a early start to his holiday break.

Can leave Sarr, James, Trev, Dave and any youth players needed to be called up to finish the season out.

No wonder we’re charity fc if this attitude was adopted. The season isn’t finished till we get the point needed. The match on Thursday could be hard after the disappointing result yesterday on a stamina sapping pitch. As for Watford it should be routine, though if we fail to do the business on Thursday we’re playing against a team who could be dangerous on the break. 

1 hour ago, charierre said:

No wonder we’re charity fc if this attitude was adopted. The season isn’t finished till we get the point needed. The match on Thursday could be hard after the disappointing result yesterday on a stamina sapping pitch. As for Watford it should be routine, though if we fail to do the business on Thursday we’re playing against a team who could be dangerous on the break. 

It is finished. Watford are awful. We will at least get a point off them. 

2 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

It is finished. Watford are awful. We will at least get a point off them. 

Famous last words. 

12 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Famous last words. 

Lol maybe, maybe dropping to 5th will show the new owners truly how far away we are from City and Pool.

I'm still shocked he made the decision to leave Chelsea.

He's in a perfect sweet spot right now where the precise conditions he currently finds here have enabled him to be in the form of his life.

It wouldn't be surprising at all to see him wiping bogies on the Real Madrid bench in a year's time.

20 minutes ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

It wouldn't be surprising at all to see him wiping bogies on the Real Madrid bench in a year's time.

At least Gareth Bale will have someone to play golf with !

59 minutes ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

I'm still shocked he made the decision to leave Chelsea.

He's in a perfect sweet spot right now where the precise conditions he currently finds here have enabled him to be in the form of his life.

It wouldn't be surprising at all to see him wiping bogies on the Real Madrid bench in a year's time.

He is getting a huge amount of cash.

Just now, axman2526 said:

He is getting a huge amount of cash.

Quite so ... and the lump sum alone is enough to keep generations of his family in coke and hookers for decades !