Harsh sending off.

Should have been a straight red

Tottenham's lot really do lose their heads when things don't go their way. 

Sorry to be negative here but I just can't watch this and enjoy it, to think Tottenham outplayed us so easily and Arsenal are doing this to them, are we even that much better than United at the moment? 

Really hope we get our act together, we'll probably drop out of the top 4 after the City match. 

2 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

I still think we could have got Aubameyang in the summer, it's only a few months difference.

Also, he's not bad in the air himself, he scored a lot of goals with his head for Dortmund.

I know , i would have prefer aubameyang as well . Can only imagine oppositions defenders seeing hazard auba and Pedro running at them !

Just now, Brutos said:

I suspect this Arsenal team will not be a push anymore Emery have given them some fight and guts

Well let's all hope they can beat City, because unless City go into a meltdown it's pretty much over anyway despite only being December.

Just now, Slojo said:

Sorry to be negative here but I just can't watch this and enjoy it, to think Tottenham outplayed us so easily and Arsenal are doing this to them, are we even that much better than United at the moment? 

Really hope we get our act together, we'll probably drop out of the top 4 after the City match. 

Firstly we were playing away against Spurs who were pretty much playing at full throttle & our performances after international breaks have been terrible so far. Today Spurs are away to Arsenal and I believe there was some sort of delay in Spurs getting to the Emirates, you can’t just simply take 2 games and decipher our level due to the sheer number of variables involved.

3 minutes ago, Slojo said:

Sorry to be negative here but I just can't watch this and enjoy it, to think Tottenham outplayed us so easily and Arsenal are doing this to them, are we even that much better than United at the moment? 

Really hope we get our act together, we'll probably drop out of the top 4 after the City match. 

Just watch and enjoy a passionate game of football. Good to see that in the EPL for a change even though I despise both teams.

4 minutes ago, Brutos said:

I suspect this Arsenal team will not be a push anymore Emery have given them some fight and guts

Torreira? oops quality, controlled and won midfield, very like kante, but more aggressive, proper Uruguayan Terrier

Henry showing himself to being a good coach. Prepared to make the big decisions, not scared of mixing it up tactically and generally putting the fight back in the team. Too four will be hard for us with their re-emergence.

Edited December 2, 20187 yr by charierre

Arsenal trashed spuds, how can we be so poor in big games this season wtf is this

10 minutes ago, goose said:

Not at all. Followed through with studs showing with nothing else on his mind but to injure the player.

Won the ball, then caught him with the follow through. You try readjusting your foot instantly at that speed.

2 minutes ago, Imran_CFC said:

Firstly we were playing away against Spurs who were pretty much playing at full throttle & our performances after international breaks have been terrible so far. Today Spurs are away to Arsenal and I believe there was some sort of delay in Spurs getting to the Emirates, you can’t just simply take 2 games and decipher our level due to the sheer number of variables involved.

You're right, but the complete lack of effort and dreadful performance against Tottenham was eye-opening, I don't think you can make too many excuses for that, Arsenal here are at least showing some heart which is very rare for an Arsenal side. 

The target has to be top 4 this season! But it will be a difficult year with the way Tottenham and Arsenal are playing, Spurs don't usually kick into gear until January time, they've been playing bad but they've kept winning games and that will all add up. 

Sometimes you turn up, sometimes you don't. We didn't turn up against Spurs. The one issue I have watching the Arsenal game, is how comes one ref can see that Son penalty, yet the other couldn't see the blatant penalty for Hazard vs Spurs? That stuff bothers me a lot. Watching the Son penalty decision replay, it's tough to see in slow motion, so how does the ref see that in real time? Absolute nonsense. 

Edited December 2, 20187 yr by enigma

10 minutes ago, goose said:

Not at all. Followed through with studs showing with nothing else on his mind but to injure the player.

Won the ball, then caught him with the follow through. You try readjusting your foot instantly at that speed.

3 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Arsenal trashed spuds, how can we be so poor in big games this season wtf is this

we were best team in both liverpool games. at the moment we are no near that form.

THats was very very imressive by Arsenal......they have everything we lack atm. They showed up for the derby, were physical and fast....didnt tire out. Fought for the badge and Emery himself shwoing he is a good manager who is willing to to mix it up and change formation when needed.......Again everything we do not do atm. Very astute manager that have instilled hunger and guts. Good for him. They will go Places under him and clearly on the up..........and f**k spurs.

3 minutes ago, Slojo said:

You're right, but the complete lack of effort and dreadful performance against Tottenham was eye-opening, I don't think you can make too many excuses for that, Arsenal here are at least showing some heart which is very rare for an Arsenal side. 

The target has to be top 4 this season! But it will be a difficult year with the way Tottenham and Arsenal are playing, Spurs don't usually kick into gear until January time, they've been playing bad but they've kept winning games and that will all add up. 

 

Or putting all our eggs for the EL haha 

1 minute ago, MANoWAR said:

 

Or putting all our eggs for the EL haha 

Could definitely be a factor, but we are rotating a lot. 

2 minutes ago, Slojo said:

Could definitely be a factor, but we are rotating a lot. 

Nah, I mean as in if we're finding the league too tough  within the next few games, we can focus on the EL (perhaps risky) like

Manchester United. That gives us another way into the CL 

I think it's too reactionary to start hyping Arsenal. They have had fortune on their side to get through previous games and their defence is leaky. Turning up against Spurs means nothing. This time of year the fixtures mount up and Spurs just played Inter midweek so who knows what it took from them. You can't win every game. We are learning a new system with a coach who has been with the squad for 3+ months. It's too soon to say what we will or won't do. One thing is for sure, the board need to invest well in January if possible. Buy a striker and maybe one other player. 

4 minutes ago, mojo said:

we were best team in both liverpool games. at the moment we are no near that form.

Start of the season we were great, even in the Arsenal game despite the last 10 minutes of the first half we outplayed them comfortably, both Liverpool matches we gave them very good games. But our November has been a struggle, we aren't doing terrible by any means and this is Sarri's first season. But we have to add in all the variables, compare us to the other teams right now and we don't look that good.

6 minutes ago, Zeta said:

Won the ball, then caught him with the follow through. You try readjusting your foot instantly at that speed.

He won the ball with the instep and followed through with studs up. If you are saying that he couldn’t adjust then it was reckless. Winning the ball does not nowadays excuse the reckless tackle. In my opinion it was a straight leg challenge, it was reckless and intenionly so and could have been a straight red.

1 minute ago, Slojo said:

Start of the season we were great, even in the Arsenal game despite the last 10 minutes of the first half we outplayed them comfortably, both Liverpool matches we gave them very good games. But our November has been a struggle, we aren't doing terrible by any means and this is Sarri's first season. But we have to add in all the variables, compare us to the other teams right now and we don't look that good.

I think this is why patience is crucial. The players are learning Sarri's system. Kante is learning a new position. Kovacic and Jorginho are both new to the league and still adapting. At the moment, the misfiring strikers is a biggest issue, which I hope can be resolved in January *fingers crossed*

2 minutes ago, goose said:

He won the ball with the instep and followed through with studs up. If you are saying that he couldn’t adjust then it was reckless. Winning the ball does not nowadays excuse the reckless tackle. In my opinion it was a straight leg challenge, it was reckless and intenionly so and could have been a straight red.

The rules seem to be changing every year, to make it less and less of a contact sport.

2 minutes ago, Zeta said:

The rules seem to be changing every year, to make it less and less of a contact sport.

Unfortunately that’s the ways it’s going.