Not the best we've played this season, but it can happen after an International break, and United, despite their recent struggles remain a decent side.

All in all, to remain unbeaten at this stage and to be playing as well as we have (for the most part), there are lots of reasons to be optimisitc.

The massive negative is obviously Morata. I hope Sarri has now seen enough. Either the penny still hasn't dropped (in which case he should go anyway) or at this stage of his career, he's simply unable to change his game, which means he's not suited to our football. He's had more than one season in the premiership now, and still goes to ground every two minutes looking for fouls that aren't there. He's not leading the line or making forward runs and his hold up play is abysmal.

If we had someone reliable up front, we could well be sitting at the top of the league right now.

54 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Not the best we've played this season, but it can happen after an International break, and United, despite their recent struggles remain a decent side.

All in all, to remain unbeaten at this stage and to be playing as well as we have (for the most part), there are lots of reasons to be optimisitc.

The massive negative is obviously Morata. I hope Sarri has now seen enough. Either the penny still hasn't dropped (in which case he should go anyway) or at this stage of his career, he's simply unable to change his game, which means he's not suited to our football. He's had more than one season in the premiership now, and still goes to ground every two minutes looking for fouls that aren't there. He's not leading the line or making forward runs and his hold up play is abysmal.

If we had someone reliable up front, we could well be sitting at the top of the league right now.

Sad thing is, if we still had Costa up front we'd be clear at the top! 

Yeah I remember fondly how much everyone loved Costa in that second half of the season under Conte. "Like playing with 10 men".

I'm not one for pining for a Drogba, or a Costa, as what's done is done, but it's clear we need a better option.

If we're talking about past players, Crespo, Gudjohnsen or even Tore Andre Flo would be excelling in this team right now.

11 minutes ago, Elliott said:

I'm not one for pining for a Drogba, or a Costa, as what's done is done, but it's clear we need a better option.

If we're talking about past players, Crespo, Gudjohnsen or even Tore Andre Flo would be excelling in this team right now.

If we look back when both us and Utd were looking for new strikers the reason we got Lukaku and Morata seems not to be because they were the best just that the big European clubs were not willing to sell.

Leads me to think we might need to poach a striker from another EPL club though a direct competitor will not sell.

Real Madrid have a past it benzena and Barca a past it Suarez and Bayern a past it lewandowski. 

I’ve come to think that after Kane and Mbappe, Lacazette is one of the best around right now. Got a good shot on him that boy. I actually like Depay and Martial as well. Anyway that’s another thread. 

‘I’ll say it again Morata is showing much better attitude and spirit this season and I’d keep starting him. I like Giroud but he doesn’t have the pace for this team as a starter. A great sub not a starter. 

15 hours ago, dkw said:

What a load of rubbish. 

That is the one consistent element of all of that dick's posts, mate.

1 hour ago, Strider6003 said:

If we look back when both us and Utd were looking for new strikers the reason we got Lukaku and Morata seems not to be because they were the best just that the big European clubs were not willing to sell.

Leads me to think we might need to poach a striker from another EPL club though a direct competitor will not sell.

True. Although the Morata deal did make sense; European pedigree, good age etc. I can't help but think it's coming to the end of the road now, though.

Chelsea find themselves in a tricky situation....

- Keep playing Morata, and without dramatic improvement (which doesn't look likely) we could miss out on top four again.

- Confirm Giroud as no1 choice, and Morata's confidence takes another knock, not to mention his value.

- Cut your losses and attempt to sell in January, but then who would be available that is good enough and without costing big money?

- Take a chance and bring back Batshuayi? Is that even possible under the terms of the loan?

Abraham doesn't look like a realistic option right now, and I don't think Sarri would consider a 'false 9' system.

I expect they will stick with the rotation for the rest of the season and hope for the best before spending big again in the summer.

Edited October 22, 20187 yr by Elliott

7 minutes ago, Elliott said:

True. Although the Morata deal did make sense; European pedigree, good age etc. I can't help but think it's coming to the end of the road now, though.

Chelsea find themselves in a tricky situation....

- Keep playing Morata, and without dramatic improvement (which doesn't look likely) we could miss out on top four again.

- Confirm Giroud as no1 choice, and Morata's confidence takes another knock, not to mention his value.

- Cut your losses and attempt to sell in January, but then who would be available that is good enough and without costing big money?

- Take a chance and bring back Batshuayi? Is that even possible under the terms of the loan?

Abraham doesn't look like a realistic option right now, and I don't think Sarri would consider a 'false 9' system.

I expect they will stick with the rotation for the rest of the season and hope for the best before spending big again in the summer.

Agree on Abraham, don't think Bats is the answer unless he has had a massive improvement to his football brain.

Notice Salah has been misfiring though scored this weekend.

With Morata don't think he is not trying just that either he is over thinking or too much nervous excitement in the execution of shots etc.

I thought last season he wanted to go back to Spain, don't think that is the case now yet realises he needs to score again.

5 hours ago, PloKoon13 said:

Close but no cigar unfortunately:

- Matic did scythe down Hazard, but the 'grin and extended hand' occurred between Mata and Azpilicueta.

- Hazard was fouled a mere 5 times. Apparently this is actually less than his average at home against Mourinho's Man Utd, as he is fouled on average 5.5 times per game.

Its the half fouls that make all the difference

On ?21?/?10?/?2018 at 11:53, evissy said:

Jose is Jose.

Our fans telling him to f**k off is as unacceptable as Ianni's. Really sad. I thought our fans have more class. 

 

I feel obliged to respond to this one, as it is something I have seen a lot of since the game from everyone ranging from Chelsea fans, to the media, to rival fans.

I have even seen Liverpool fans outraged and offended on Mourinho's behalf. This is a fan base who have loathed the man for over a decade, and who refused to ever give him any credit or respect as Chelsea manager on the grounds that Chelsea's success under him was "bought". A fan base who have sung the very words "f**k off Mourinho" in every game they have ever come up against him, are now jumping to his defence when Chelsea fans do it. It's almost as if they couldn't give a sh*t about him, but that this is just a nice big stick to beat Chelsea fans with.

 

As someone who used to worship the ground that Mourinho walked on, my take of the situation is this:

- In a nutshell respect is, and always will be, a two way street. Juan Mata was applauded by the "classless" Chelsea fans every time he came up to take a corner, and again when he was subbed off. Zola was given a hero's welcome every time he returned as West Ham Manager. So there are two examples of former players and Managers, who have joined rivals, and still been given a hero's welcome on their return.

- Furthermore, Jose Mourinho himself returned with Inter in 2010, knocked Chelsea out of the Champions League, and didn't receive any 'abuse' what so ever.

-Before we get into why he may have received 'abuse' this time around, let's just get that in perspective. The 'abuse' consisted of approximately 10 seconds of "f**k off Mourinho" in the 96th minute in response to Mourinho seemingly trying to attack a member of the Chelsea dugout. At the time it was unclear who or why he was trying to attack anyone, but it certainly appeared he was the aggressor, as he was being physically restrained whilst going in the direction of the Chelsea technical area.

- As I said before, respect is a two way street. It was always going to be difficult to continue to love Mourinho whilst United Manager, but not impossible. In my opinion, Mourinho has made no effort what so ever to maintain his legacy as a fans favourite at Stamford Bridge, and in fact has shown it a complete disregard. Lets break that down...

- After the 4-0 defeat at Stamford Bridge, Mourinho took the defeat very badly (to say the least). He was outraged that Conte celebrated the 4th goal, and attempted to give him a telling off (obviously in full view of the camera, not behind closed doors). This then continue for the following season and a half, with Mourinho going to war with Conte in childish fashion, resorting to making references from anything ranging from match fixing to hair loss. It was as petty and disrespectful as you can get, and Conte deserved his criticism too, but Mourinho didn't need to go to war with Conte, he chose to.

- After victory at Old Trafford under Mourinho decided to wait until the camera was on him once again, and then proceeded to thump Manchester United crest several times to the camera. Now I am not one to get precious about something like this, after all he was Manchester United manager, but again I would ask why he felt it necessary to do this? If he was interested in preserving his legacy as a Chelsea fan favourite, then I'm thinking after inflicting defeat on his former club (and the fans that once worshiped him), he may choose not to do this.

- Upon his second defeat at Stamford Bridge, Mourinho got involved with the Chelsea fans and chose to gesture to them with his three fingers to signify the three titles that he won with us. Emphasis on with us, not for us. This was apparently in reaction to negative chants which were reported to be "You're not special anymore". Fairly tame stuff, and something you would think he may be able to rise above, Hell, he could have even hit back in his post match interview with something along the lines of "Chelsea fans can say what they want about me, but I will always love them for the faith they showed me in my darkest moments". That would have been an example of him acting like a 55 year old man who was taking the high ground and directing his comments at an entire fanbase for their loyalty over the years, not a select few who chanted something in the heat of the moment. Instead, he decided to go with this:

"The fans can call me what they want. I am a professional. I defend my club. Until the moment [Chelsea] have a manager that wins four Premier Leagues for them, I’m the No1. When they have somebody who wins four Premier Leagues for them, I’ll be No2. For this moment, ‘Judas’ is No1.”

In my opinion, it was childish, petty, and drove a wedge between many Chelsea fans who probably never sung a bad word about him. He chose to refer to himself as "judas" despite there being no such chant. At best, his comments were super defensive, at worst they were inflammatory.

- He has made various comments about United being a bigger club than Chelsea during his time there. I actually don't care about these comments- United are a bigger club than Chelsea, but once again I would question why he needs to go on record spelling it out. One such example is ""Chelsea is a big club. Liverpool is a big club,” Mourinho said, before adding: “Manchester United is a super big club.". Basically, he could have said that United were the biggest club in the world, but he chose to mention Chelsea and make it clear that United are bigger.

- On Sunday, (albeit under provocation), he decided to try and chase down the Chelsea assistant Manager to physically confront him for celebrating. People can make their own minds up about whether that was justified or not. After the incident he walked over to the travelling United supporters and applauded them. He then turned to the Chelsea fans (the family enclosure I will add) and did his three finger gesture again. Here we have a 56 year old man, a multi millionaire no less, getting involved with hand gestures to the family enclosure because he didn't like a chant directed at him. he could have been the bigger man, he chose not to be....

- In his post match interview there was no positive words to say about the club, as there never has been in any of his post match interview (win, lose or draw), and he chose to say United controlled the game (despite having less possession, less shots, less shots on target, less corners and less passes). No credit given at all.

 

I quote Mourinho himself  "When you go to your direct rival the love affair is over"

This was obviously reference Lampard moving to City, but I think this is the way he see's it; Mourinho has well and truly moved on- he cares about United, and himself. He doesn't care about preserving his legacy as a Chelsea fan favourite. I think that is clear. He is happy to go to war with anyone and everyone at the club, from Conte to the fans. And that is what he has done.

Had Mourinho chosen to behave differently, I am certain he wouldn't have been subjected to the 'abuse' he has received.

 

Edited October 22, 20187 yr by mclovin83

16 minutes ago, mclovin83 said:

I feel obliged to respond to this one, as it is something I have seen a lot of since the game from everyone ranging from Chelsea fans, to the media, to rival fans.

I have even seen Liverpool fans outraged and offended on Mourinho's behalf. This is a fan base who have loathed the man for over a decade, and who refused to ever give him any credit or respect as Chelsea manager on the grounds that Chelsea's success under him was "bought". A fan base who have sung the very words "f**k off Mourinho" in every game they have ever come up against him, are now jumping to his defence when Chelsea fans do it. It's almost as if they couldn't give a sh*t about him, but that this is just a nice big stick to beat Chelsea fans with.

 

As someone who used to worship the ground that Mourinho walked on, my take of the situation is this:

- In a nutshell respect is, and always will be, a two way street. Juan Mata was applauded by the "classless" Chelsea fans every time he came up to take a corner, and again when he was subbed off. Zola was given a hero's welcome every time he returned as West Ham Manager. So there are two examples of former players and Managers, who have joined rivals, and still been given a hero's welcome on their return.

- Furthermore, Jose Mourinho himself returned with Inter in 2010, knocked Chelsea out of the Champions League, and didn't receive any 'abuse' what so ever.

-Before we get into why he may have received 'abuse' this time around, let's just get that in perspective. The 'abuse' consisted of approximately 10 seconds of "f**k off Mourinho" in the 96th minute in response to Mourinho seemingly trying to attack a member of the Chelsea dugout. At the time it was unclear who or why he was trying to attack anyone, but it certainly appeared he was the aggressor, as he was being physically restrained whilst going in the direction of the Chelsea technical area.

- As I said before, respect is a two way street. It was always going to be difficult to continue to love Mourinho whilst United Manager, but not impossible. In my opinion, Mourinho has made no effort what so ever to maintain his legacy as a fans favourite at Stamford Bridge, and in fact has shown it a complete disregard. Lets break that down...

- After the 4-0 defeat at Stamford Bridge, Mourinho took the defeat very badly (to say the least). He was outraged that Conte celebrated the 4th goal, and attempted to give him a telling off (obviously in full view of the camera, not behind closed doors). This then continue for the following season and a half, with Mourinho going to war with Conte in childish fashion, resorting to making references from anything ranging from match fixing to hair loss. It was as petty and disrespectful as you can get, and Conte deserved his criticism too, but Mourinho didn't need to go to war with Conte, he chose to.

- After victory at Old Trafford under Mourinho decided to wait until the camera was on him once again, and then proceeded to thump Manchester United crest several times to the camera. Now I am not one to get precious about something like this, after all he was Manchester United manager, but again I would ask why he felt it necessary to do this? If he was interested in preserving his legacy as a Chelsea fan favourite, then I'm thinking after inflicting defeat on his former club (and the fans that once worshiped him), he may choose not to do this.

- Upon his second defeat at Stamford Bridge, Mourinho got involved with the Chelsea fans and chose to gesture to them with his three fingers to signify the three titles that he won with us. Emphasis on with us, not for us. This was apparently in reaction to negative chants which were reported to be "You're not special anymore". Fairly tame stuff, and something you would think he may be able to rise above, Hell, he could have even hit back in his post match interview with something along the lines of "Chelsea fans can say what they want about me, but I will always love them for the faith they showed me in my darkest moments". That would have been an example of him acting like a 55 year old man who was taking the high ground and directing his comments at an entire fanbase for their loyalty over the years, not a select few who chanted something in the heat of the moment. Instead, he decided to go with this:

"The fans can call me what they want. I am a professional. I defend my club. Until the moment [Chelsea] have a manager that wins four Premier Leagues for them, I’m the No1. When they have somebody who wins four Premier Leagues for them, I’ll be No2. For this moment, ‘Judas’ is No1.”

In my opinion, it was childish, petty, and drove a wedge between many Chelsea fans who probably never sung a bad word about him. He chose to refer to himself as "judas" despite there being no such chant. At best, his comments were super defensive, at worst they were inflammatory.

- He has made various comments about United being a bigger club than Chelsea during his time there. I actually don't care about these comments- United are a bigger club than Chelsea, but once again I would question why he needs to go on record spelling it out. One such example is ""Chelsea is a big club. Liverpool is a big club,” Mourinho said, before adding: “Manchester United is a super big club.". Basically, he could have said that United were the biggest club in the world, but he chose to mention Chelsea and make it clear that United are bigger.

- On Sunday, (albeit under provocation), he decided to try and chase down the Chelsea assistant Manager to physically confront him for celebrating. People can make their own minds up about whether that was justified or not. After the incident he walked over to the travelling United supporters and applauded them. He then turned to the Chelsea fans (the family enclosure I will add) and did his three finger gesture again. Here we have a 56 year old man, a multi millionaire no less, getting involved with hand gestures to the family enclosure because he didn't like a chant directed at him. he could have been the bigger man, he chose not to be....

- In his post match interview there was no positive words to say about the club, as there never has been in any of his post match interview (win, lose or draw), and he chose to say United controlled the game (despite having less possession, less shots, less shots on target, less corners and less passes). No credit given at all.

 

I quote Mourinho himself  "When you go to your direct rival the love affair is over"

This was obviously reference Lampard moving to City, but I think this is the way he see's it; Mourinho has well and truly moved on- he cares about United, and himself. He doesn't care about preserving his legacy as a Chelsea fan favourite. I think that is clear. He is happy to go to war with anyone and everyone at the club, from Conte to the fans. And that is what he has done.

Had Mourinho chosen to behave differently, I am certain he wouldn't have been subjected to the 'abuse' he has received.

 

Spot on. Jose has always been about himself, and that is what makes him successful, but ultimately, it's also his undoing.

He acts like a child, and then expects blind loyalty. As you say, it works both ways.

59 minutes ago, mclovin83 said:

I have even seen Liverpool fans outraged and offended on Mourinho's behalf. This is a fan base who have loathed the man for over a decade, and who refused to ever give him any credit or respect as Chelsea manager on the grounds that Chelsea's success under him was "bought". A fan base who have sung the very words "f**k off Mourinho" in every game they have ever come up against him, are now jumping to his defence when Chelsea fans do it. It's almost as if they couldn't give a sh*t about him, but that this is just a nice big stick to beat Chelsea fans with.

That can't be true, they'd have referred to him as 'Maureen' at least...

bottom line with Mourinho, he sent out Ashley Young, Matic and whomever else he picked to systematically foul Hazard, as 

he has no tactical answer to the boy's brilliance, yes Dean did brandish yellows but he did nothing for Young's in from behind scissor action

'tackle'/ foul in the box which now has Eden injured, and in hindsight why he may have been quieter than usual on Saturday. so thats the level of

respect Mourinho has for CFC , not f'in much, so fairs fair he won a bunch of cups at SB; but that's done and now he's like the rest of that

scummy club - the enemy

2 hours ago, mclovin83 said:

I feel obliged to respond to this one, as it is something I have seen a lot of since the game from everyone ranging from Chelsea fans, to the media, to rival fans.

I have even seen Liverpool fans outraged and offended on Mourinho's behalf. This is a fan base who have loathed the man for over a decade, and who refused to ever give him any credit or respect as Chelsea manager on the grounds that Chelsea's success under him was "bought". A fan base who have sung the very words "f**k off Mourinho" in every game they have ever come up against him, are now jumping to his defence when Chelsea fans do it. It's almost as if they couldn't give a sh*t about him, but that this is just a nice big stick to beat Chelsea fans with.

 

As someone who used to worship the ground that Mourinho walked on, my take of the situation is this:

- In a nutshell respect is, and always will be, a two way street. Juan Mata was applauded by the "classless" Chelsea fans every time he came up to take a corner, and again when he was subbed off. Zola was given a hero's welcome every time he returned as West Ham Manager. So there are two examples of former players and Managers, who have joined rivals, and still been given a hero's welcome on their return.

- Furthermore, Jose Mourinho himself returned with Inter in 2010, knocked Chelsea out of the Champions League, and didn't receive any 'abuse' what so ever.

-Before we get into why he may have received 'abuse' this time around, let's just get that in perspective. The 'abuse' consisted of approximately 10 seconds of "f**k off Mourinho" in the 96th minute in response to Mourinho seemingly trying to attack a member of the Chelsea dugout. At the time it was unclear who or why he was trying to attack anyone, but it certainly appeared he was the aggressor, as he was being physically restrained whilst going in the direction of the Chelsea technical area.

- As I said before, respect is a two way street. It was always going to be difficult to continue to love Mourinho whilst United Manager, but not impossible. In my opinion, Mourinho has made no effort what so ever to maintain his legacy as a fans favourite at Stamford Bridge, and in fact has shown it a complete disregard. Lets break that down...

- After the 4-0 defeat at Stamford Bridge, Mourinho took the defeat very badly (to say the least). He was outraged that Conte celebrated the 4th goal, and attempted to give him a telling off (obviously in full view of the camera, not behind closed doors). This then continue for the following season and a half, with Mourinho going to war with Conte in childish fashion, resorting to making references from anything ranging from match fixing to hair loss. It was as petty and disrespectful as you can get, and Conte deserved his criticism too, but Mourinho didn't need to go to war with Conte, he chose to.

- After victory at Old Trafford under Mourinho decided to wait until the camera was on him once again, and then proceeded to thump Manchester United crest several times to the camera. Now I am not one to get precious about something like this, after all he was Manchester United manager, but again I would ask why he felt it necessary to do this? If he was interested in preserving his legacy as a Chelsea fan favourite, then I'm thinking after inflicting defeat on his former club (and the fans that once worshiped him), he may choose not to do this.

- Upon his second defeat at Stamford Bridge, Mourinho got involved with the Chelsea fans and chose to gesture to them with his three fingers to signify the three titles that he won with us. Emphasis on with us, not for us. This was apparently in reaction to negative chants which were reported to be "You're not special anymore". Fairly tame stuff, and something you would think he may be able to rise above, Hell, he could have even hit back in his post match interview with something along the lines of "Chelsea fans can say what they want about me, but I will always love them for the faith they showed me in my darkest moments". That would have been an example of him acting like a 55 year old man who was taking the high ground and directing his comments at an entire fanbase for their loyalty over the years, not a select few who chanted something in the heat of the moment. Instead, he decided to go with this:

"The fans can call me what they want. I am a professional. I defend my club. Until the moment [Chelsea] have a manager that wins four Premier Leagues for them, I’m the No1. When they have somebody who wins four Premier Leagues for them, I’ll be No2. For this moment, ‘Judas’ is No1.”

In my opinion, it was childish, petty, and drove a wedge between many Chelsea fans who probably never sung a bad word about him. He chose to refer to himself as "judas" despite there being no such chant. At best, his comments were super defensive, at worst they were inflammatory.

- He has made various comments about United being a bigger club than Chelsea during his time there. I actually don't care about these comments- United are a bigger club than Chelsea, but once again I would question why he needs to go on record spelling it out. One such example is ""Chelsea is a big club. Liverpool is a big club,” Mourinho said, before adding: “Manchester United is a super big club.". Basically, he could have said that United were the biggest club in the world, but he chose to mention Chelsea and make it clear that United are bigger.

- On Sunday, (albeit under provocation), he decided to try and chase down the Chelsea assistant Manager to physically confront him for celebrating. People can make their own minds up about whether that was justified or not. After the incident he walked over to the travelling United supporters and applauded them. He then turned to the Chelsea fans (the family enclosure I will add) and did his three finger gesture again. Here we have a 56 year old man, a multi millionaire no less, getting involved with hand gestures to the family enclosure because he didn't like a chant directed at him. he could have been the bigger man, he chose not to be....

- In his post match interview there was no positive words to say about the club, as there never has been in any of his post match interview (win, lose or draw), and he chose to say United controlled the game (despite having less possession, less shots, less shots on target, less corners and less passes). No credit given at all.

 

I quote Mourinho himself  "When you go to your direct rival the love affair is over"

This was obviously reference Lampard moving to City, but I think this is the way he see's it; Mourinho has well and truly moved on- he cares about United, and himself. He doesn't care about preserving his legacy as a Chelsea fan favourite. I think that is clear. He is happy to go to war with anyone and everyone at the club, from Conte to the fans. And that is what he has done.

Had Mourinho chosen to behave differently, I am certain he wouldn't have been subjected to the 'abuse' he has received.

 

Absolutely spot on !!! Brilliant take on the whole situation.

Chelsea coach Marco Ianni has been charged with improper conduct for sparking an unsavoury scuffle that led the Football Association to remind Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho of his responsibilities.

 

LOL what a joke

So over the top celebrations in front of the opposition is worse than trying to assault someone who celebrated an opposition goal in front of you?  They're going to punish the fan/staff for celebrating a huge goal in their home stadium, but nothing on the violent reaction to it?

I'll state right now that's a rather dangerous precedent for the FA to set.   

6 hours ago, yorkleyblue said:

That is the one consistent element of all of that dick's posts, mate.

To strongly challenge or disagree with my views is fine. To just resort to personal abuse says much about you. How about just putting me on ignore.

 

You can't let managers/coaches/assistants or whatever run around taunting each other during matches, it's hardly fitting behaviour for a professional, so I don't think they have any choice but to charge Ianni. I'd still like to buy him a pint though. 

Just now, bluedave said:

You can't let managers/coaches/assistants or whatever run around taunting each other during matches, it's hardly fitting behaviour for a professional, so I don't think they have any choice but to charge Ianni. I'd still like to buy him a pint though. 

Agreed, but far better behavior than needing to be physically restrained from attacking someone for the sin of over the top celebrations of a goal in a football stadium....

 

Then again, we're talking about this and not the fact that they dropped 2 points with horrid defending in their box....so certainly working out in Mourinho's favour.

4 minutes ago, bluedave said:

You can't let managers/coaches/assistants or whatever run around taunting each other during matches, it's hardly fitting behaviour for a professional, so I don't think they have any choice but to charge Ianni. I'd still like to buy him a pint though. 

The inconsistency is annoying but with Mourinho already facing a charge they've possibly given him the benefit of the doubt to show there wasn't any undue bias against him.

I think what Ianni did was unnecessary, but ultimately it wasn't exactly a shocking scene was it. 

He basically celebrated at Mourinho. Wow. It's playground stuff. 

Equally, Mourinho didn't need to jump up like a man possessed and try and 'have it out with him' there and then. 

I think it was all heat of the moment stuff, and by all accounts it has been dealt with already. 

I think it's pathetic if any further action is taken on either front to be honest. 

But it's 2018, and if there is even a hint that someone, somewhere, could be offended then you better believe action will be taken!!!

8 minutes ago, mclovin83 said:

I think what Ianni did was unnecessary, but ultimately it wasn't exactly a shocking scene was it. 

He basically celebrated at Mourinho. Wow. It's playground stuff. 

Equally, Mourinho didn't need to jump up like a man possessed and try and 'have it out with him' there and then. 

I think it was all heat of the moment stuff, and by all accounts it has been dealt with already. 

I think it's pathetic if any further action is taken on either front to be honest. 

But it's 2018, and if there is even a hint that someone, somewhere, could be offended then you better believe action will be taken!!!

He did take a swipe at JM on the first pass, don't think he hit or intended that yet certainly to make him flinch.

7 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

He did take a swipe at JM on the first pass, don't think he hit or intended that yet certainly to make him flinch.

He was yards away from him wasn't he?!

Of course he will be charged.....and this is all good for Jose. His team outplayed for most of the match, gets 2 Lucky goals, we make it 2-2 and its all about the incident, he knows what he is doing, he always has. And why was Jose allowed 5 days extended stay out of nowhere?