6 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

There hasn't been that many personal requests of Roman himself, for the vast majority of transfers it's the people around him that simply wanted those particular players, the one player that was reported as a Roman signing was Shevchenko. 

Do you expect me to believe you are privy to Romans inner circle ? 

And anyway if that was the case, would Roman allow the 'people around' him to keep buying failure after failure and keep them in employment ? doesn't sound like Roman and his famous short fuse for managers. 

14 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

There hasn't been that many personal requests of Roman himself, for the vast majority of transfers it's the people around him that simply wanted those particular players, the one player that was reported as a Roman signing was Shevchenko. 

See here’s the thing is that we have absolutely no idea which players RA did or didn’t request most of the reports are based on pure speculation.

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10 minutes ago, coco said:

Do you expect me to believe you are privy to Romans inner circle ? 

And anyway if that was the case, would Roman allow the 'people around' him to keep buying failure after failure and keep them in employment ? doesn't sound like Roman and his famous short fuse for managers. 

I don't really claim that I am but to say that Roman personally was responsible for all bad transfers, that's a reach. Didn't Mourinho tell the story about how he was so sure about buying Drogba that he simply went to Roman and directly said just get this guy no matter what?

Every club makes some bad transfers nobody is immune to that, we got Lukaku that even Tuchel thought would work out but prior to that there had been some good signings, e.g. Thiago Silva, Chilwell though he's long term injured, Havertz... It depends how much far back we're going but overall under Roman we have signed some of the best players the club has ever had.

Edited May 5, 20224 yr by Gol15

12 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Why we need the people behind the transfers out. With the exception of Big Pete.

Those that saw the opportunity to get Thiago Silva can stay. Big Pete had something to do with Mendy so he's safe in my book.

2 hours ago, coco said:

Lets not pretend Roman didn't buy plenty of rubbish players over 20 years, i am quite looking forward to seeing what players we can bring in now without Roman, no offence to him he meant well.

Shev, Zappacosta, Morata, Old Higuain (loan), Falcao, Torres, Lukaku, Bakayoko, Bats, Drinkwater, Saul (loan), Emerson, Barkley, Kepa (for the price we got him), Papy Djilobodji (YES I REMEMBER HIM), Baba Rahman...

I was itching to put Jorginho in this list as well, but he is more of a disappointing signing than a complete dud like Alonso.

I'm sure I'm missing some more in this list. Those are the ones I can think of on the top of my head. No kidding. Some of these duds are actually still here.

Edited May 5, 20224 yr by Mana

6 minutes ago, terraloon said:

See here’s the thing is that we have absolutely no idea which players RA did or didn’t request most of the reports are based on pure speculation.

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It's true. Much easier when talking about managers and even the best ones made some bad signings, from Pep now with Grealish to SAF with Veron...

2 minutes ago, Mana said:

Shev, Zappacosta, Morata, Old Higuain (loan), Falcao, Torres, Lukaku, Bakayoko, Bats, Drinkwater, Saul (loan), Emerson, Barkley, Kepa (for the price we got him), Papy Djilobodji (YES I REMEMBER HIM), Baba Rahman...

I was itching to put Jorginho in this list as well, but he is more of a disappointing signing than a complete dud like Alonso.

I'm sure I'm missing some more in this list. Those are the ones I can think of on the top of my head. No kidding. Some of these duds are actually still here.

How many of those can you actually blame Roman for? Shevchenko cause of the reported speculations and Kepa maybe cause of the transfer fee alone? Even that may have possibly had a whole bunch of people reassuring that it's all going to be great...

Jorginho has been a good signing for us, not even close to that group of players.

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

 

You like a journalist?...

😁 I like Jacobs as he never seems to show his agenda sh*te, like some other journos have during this saga.

5 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Jorginho has been a good signing for us, not even close to that group of players.

Nah, he's not. I expected much more from him. That's why he's a disappointing signing for me. How many times Jorginho won MOTM for example? Or Player of the Month?

Don't give me that "3rd place in Ballon d'Or" crap because he only got there because of the trophies won in a short space of time. Next Ballon d'Or he'll drop to the bottom of the list.

When I think of our CL run for example and who were the big stars on getting that trophy for us, I can think of 6 players minimum who did better ahead of Jorginho.

Edited May 5, 20224 yr by Mana

2 minutes ago, RickUK said:

😁 I like Jacobs as he never seems to show his agenda sh*te, like some other journos have during this saga.

Anyone think Roman is going to pull the plug on the Clearlake bid and more drama is around the corner?

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2022/05/05/statement-on-behalf-of-mr-abramovich

8 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Anyone think Roman is going to pull the plug on the Clearlake bid and more drama is around the corner?

Not sure myself although id have never expected him to accept a private equity firm coming in; but latest statement is a big f**k you to the journos

 

"Has not asked for debt to be repaid to him"  also "did not up the price at the last minute"   

Edited May 5, 20224 yr by RickUK

2 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2022/05/05/statement-on-behalf-of-mr-abramovich

Well that clears everything then.

2 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2022/05/05/statement-on-behalf-of-mr-abramovich

Exactly as I expected from him. He has been an amazing owner and loves our club.

All these government gutter rats and corrupt journalists can go f*ck themselves, we know who is truly corrupt here and who is not. 

5 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2022/05/05/statement-on-behalf-of-mr-abramovich

All fine then, nothing to see here. Things progressing as planned.

Just now, Blueblur said:

All fine then, nothing to see here. Things progressing as planned.

To me it suggested Roman fully trusts in raine to handle the process so we may have an announcement tomorrow confirming the takeover is going ahead.

If so this will be Matt Law and our own @JM7

14 minutes ago, Mana said:

Nah, he's not. I expected much more from him. That's why he's a disappointing signing for me. How many times Jorginho won MOTM for example? Or Player of the Month?

Don't give me that "3rd place in Ballon d'Or" crap because he only got there because of the trophies won in a short space of time. Next Ballon d'Or he'll drop to the bottom of the list.

When I think of our CL run for example and who were the big stars on getting that trophy for us, I can think of 6 players minimum who did better ahead of Jorginho.

He has been the same player since day 1 so what he was bought to do, he has done it, not sure how much more you expected if you had actually watch Napoli prior to him coming?

How do you consider him to be closer to Bakayoko as a signing when he's far away from being a flop, the fact that you bring up that 3rd place in the Ballon D'or, well that can't really go against him can't it?

When it comes to passing the ball and interceptions he has been one of our best players for years, 2 seasons in a row he had most passes into the final third in the whole PL and you think he's close to Drinkwater?

If he was a flop he wouldn't last here for so long let alone for 3 different managers wouldn't he?

 

12 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

He has been the same player since day 1 so what he was bought to do, he has done it, not sure how much more you expected if you had actually watch Napoli prior to him coming?

How do you consider him to be closer to Bakayoko as a signing when he's far away from being a flop, the fact that you bring up that 3rd place in the Ballon D'or, well that can't really go against him can't it?

Errrr, I never said he is a flop first and foremost. Yes I was itching to put him in that list, but I didn't do it in the end. So no, I do not consider him a flop in that case.

Yes he has been the same player since day 1 we signed him, which is to me a disappointment. He was first brought in to bring Sarriball to life in Chelsea. Sarriball was a flop. Now whether you are going to point to other players or Sarri that's fine. But Jorginho that season didn't really change us. We had 6-0 City and horrid Bournemouth defeats. But ever since Jorginho has done pretty much average performances. There are some outstanding ones over the years, but you can just about count them with your fingers.

Again, how many times Jorginho ended up MOTM or even nominated for POTM? He's supposed to be one of the main guys at Chelsea. Instead we see him making mistakes, slow on the ball, loses the ball almost everytime a player presses him etc.

12 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

When it comes to passing the ball and interceptions he has been one of our best players for years, 2 seasons in a row he had most passes into the final third in the whole PL and you think he's close to Drinkwater?

Passes in to the final third isn't really an achievement, because you can sideways in to the final third.

12 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

If he was a flop he wouldn't last here for so long let alone for 3 different managers wouldn't he?

We have nobody else that's why. We are suppose to replace him.

Edited May 5, 20224 yr by Mana

I wouldn't class Alonso as a flop either. Not even close ... 

He's currently the leading scorer left at the club on 26 career CFC goals ... an honour he shares with Jorginho :-) 

11 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

I wouldn't class Alonso as a flop either. Not even close ... 

Look at the list again, because I didn't put Alonso in it. I don't like Alonso as a defender, but I damn well know he ain't a flop. However, just like Jorginho, he is a disappointing player to me.

11 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

He's currently the leading scorer left at the club on 26 career CFC goals ... an honour he shares with Jorginho :-) 

Well he's one of the longest serving Chelsea players that's why. Torres and Morata were flops but still scored goals for Chelsea.

Edited May 5, 20224 yr by Mana

10 minutes ago, Mana said:

Errrr, I never said he is a flop first and foremost. Yes I was itching to put him in that list, but I didn't do it in the end. So no, I do not consider him a flop in that case.

Yes he has been the same player since day 1 we signed him, which is to me a disappointment. He was first brought in to bring Sarriball to life in Chelsea. Sarriball was a flop. Now whether you are going to point to other players or Sarri that's fine. But Jorginho that season didn't really change us. We had 6-0 City and horrid Bournemouth defeats. But ever since Jorginho has done pretty much average performances. There are some outstanding ones over the years, but you can just about count them with your fingers.

Again, how many times Jorginho ended up MOTM or even nominated for POTM? He's supposed to be one of the main guys at Chelsea. Instead we see him making mistakes, slow on the ball, loses the ball almost everytime a player presses him etc.

Passes in to the final third isn't really an achievement, because you can sideways in to the final third.

We have nobody else that's why. We are suppose to replace him.

As if he is remotely close to any of the real flops, he's simply not. What did you expect that he suddenly turns into a completely different player? Sarri wasn't a flop we finished 3rd and won the Europa League and Jorginho was instrumental for Sarri, without him we wouldn't even be able to play that football.

I don't know how many games he ended up as MOTM but in case Bakayoko had 1 does that make him any less of a flop? Jorginho has been a consistent player for us overall and if he was a flop we would have replaced him a long time ago.

29 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

To me it suggested Roman fully trusts in raine to handle the process so we may have an announcement tomorrow confirming the takeover is going ahead.

If so this will be Matt Law and our own @JM7

Will definitely be celebrating that we’re going not into administration!

 

So what are we talking? Ratcliff coming in disrupting things with a bid and possibly relaying false information to the media about Roman wanting debt to be repaid and and wanting more money on top to try and scare other people away from buying? Sounds plausible. Either way… media are rats 

On 03/05/2022 at 17:50, dkw said:

It's the times, it's as likely to be true as Roman Abramovich turning out to be an Alien.

 

On 03/05/2022 at 18:04, charierre said:

It’s the source of the story that’s the worry, Martin Ziegler. He’s the one who broke the stories on FIFA and Blatter

Well whadya know, it was total and utterly bollocks after all.