May 5, 20224 yr 58 minutes ago, Mana said: Nah, he's not. I expected much more from him. That's why he's a disappointing signing for me. How many times Jorginho won MOTM for example? Or Player of the Month? Don't give me that "3rd place in Ballon d'Or" crap because he only got there because of the trophies won in a short space of time. Next Ballon d'Or he'll drop to the bottom of the list. When I think of our CL run for example and who were the big stars on getting that trophy for us, I can think of 6 players minimum who did better ahead of Jorginho. Jorginho then went and then won another European tournament with a totally different set of players just over one month later and that was sitting infront of a back four which supposedly exposes him.
May 5, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, dkw said: Well whadya know, it was total and utterly bollocks after all.
May 5, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Mana said: Shev, Zappacosta, Morata, Old Higuain (loan), Falcao, Torres, Lukaku, Bakayoko, Bats, Drinkwater, Saul (loan), Emerson, Barkley, Kepa (for the price we got him), Papy Djilobodji (YES I REMEMBER HIM), Baba Rahman... I was itching to put Jorginho in this list as well, but he is more of a disappointing signing than a complete dud like Alonso. I'm sure I'm missing some more in this list. Those are the ones I can think of on the top of my head. No kidding. Some of these duds are actually still here. Alonso is a classy player, very skilful, some would say a luxury player but if you put him in a very good starting 11 he will deliver. Jorginho is also a very decent player, weve had some mediocre players in the past but these two are not one of them - i assume you have only been watching for 20 years or so.
May 5, 20224 yr 40 minutes ago, Mana said: Look at the list again, because I didn't put Alonso in it. I don't like Alonso as a defender, but I damn well know he ain't a flop. However, just like Jorginho, he is a disappointing player to me. Well he's one of the longest serving Chelsea players that's why. Torres and Morata were flops but still scored goals for Chelsea. You called him a "complete dud" though ... which sounds pretty floppy to me ! Anyway ... :-)
May 5, 20224 yr Calling Jorginho a disappointment and Alonso a complete flop is possibly the worst shout I’ve seen on this forum
May 5, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Mana said: Shev, Zappacosta, Morata, Old Higuain (loan), Falcao, Torres, Lukaku, Bakayoko, Bats, Drinkwater, Saul (loan), Emerson, Barkley, Kepa (for the price we got him), Papy Djilobodji (YES I REMEMBER HIM), Baba Rahman... I was itching to put Jorginho in this list as well, but he is more of a disappointing signing than a complete dud like Alonso. I'm sure I'm missing some more in this list. Those are the ones I can think of on the top of my head. No kidding. Some of these duds are actually still here. You worthless fan, exactly how is Alonso a dud, can’t be many 1st teamers you actually rate……!!!!!
May 5, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, coco said: But what does serious quality look like ? We had Salah and KDB at one time, but someone thought they were not top quality and let them escape. We broke our transfer record on Lukaku a supposed "world class player". plus another half a billion burned on more "world class players" over the last decade. Then you look at some of the best players in the squad now and realise they came from our own academy. Well you would like to think they will probably shake things up in that aspect, Like suggested here maybe for 1 season more then a changing of the guard In my eyes what we did worked, should of beat utd in cl and we would have 3 CL for way less than what utd and city have spent to get nowhere near and liverpool went through a billion players in that time and until recently utter tripe for ages so I think we're out in front tbh. I dont think its easy at all, not many clubs get it right utd go to example and everton Edited May 5, 20224 yr by Kantesmini
May 5, 20224 yr 20 minutes ago, timetowaste said: Calling Jorginho a disappointment and Alonso a complete flop is possibly the worst shout I’ve seen on this forum I guess you don't read my posts then...
May 5, 20224 yr 17 minutes ago, axman2526 said: I guess you don't read my posts then... I do, which shows how bad Mana’s posts have been 😄
May 5, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said: You called him a "complete dud" though ... which sounds pretty floppy to me ! Anyway ... 🙂 49 minutes ago, Ballack & Blu said: You worthless fan, exactly how is Alonso a dud, can’t be many 1st teamers you actually rate……!!!!! Boy you guys cannot read. You need to go to school. “I was itching to put Jorginho in this list as well, but he is more of a disappointing signing than a complete dud like Alonso.” Aka, Jorginho and Alonso are more of disappointing signings than complete duds. Even IF you think I said Alonso is a complete dud, I would have lumped him with Bakayoko on that list! Use your noggings idiots! Edited May 5, 20224 yr by Mana
May 5, 20224 yr That is not what that reads, you changed it, gotta be careful, we are surgeons for the wrong wording….Don’t be so condescending, we’ve been here a long time, and fell out with better than you, ya idiot!! Edited May 5, 20224 yr by Ballack & Blu
May 5, 20224 yr Just now, Ballack & Blu said: That is not what that reads, you changed it, gotta be careful, we are surgeons for the wrong wording…. No I didn’t edit the post, that’s exactly what I said.
May 5, 20224 yr 20 minutes ago, Ballack & Blu said: You actually say ‘ A dud like Alonso’ ffs Well...this is what I said “...but he is more of a disappointing signing than a complete dud like Alonso." This is what you read “...but he is more of a disappointing signing than [a complete dud like Alonso.]" 24 minutes ago, Ballack & Blu said: Don’t be so condescending, we’ve been here a long time, and fell out with better than you, ya idiot!! You called me a worthless fan, of course I'm going to fecking bite. If people stop calling me idiot, shameless fan etc. then I will not call them back. If you want to challenge me, fine but don't resort in to saying sh*t like this. Edited May 5, 20224 yr by Mana
May 5, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, Argo said: Jorginho then went and then won another European tournament with a totally different set of players just over one month later and that was sitting infront of a back four which supposedly exposes him. Here's the thing, I don't care what he does for Italy. I care what he does for Chelsea FC. Be honest. Truly. Hand on heart. Do you think Jorginho last season, was better than Kante? Mount? Mendy? Kovacic? Silva? Rudiger? Can you? Last year's Ballon d'Or was a complete farce. Edited May 5, 20224 yr by Mana
May 5, 20224 yr 20 minutes ago, Mana said: Well...this is what I said “...but he is more of a disappointing signing than a complete dud like Alonso." This is what you read “...but he is more of a disappointing signing than [a complete dud like Alonso.]" You called me a worthless fan, of course I'm going to fecking bite. If people stop calling me idiot, shameless fan etc. then I will not call them back. If you want to challenge me, fine but don't resort in to saying sh*t like this. Confused. com
May 5, 20224 yr All this bollocks on here about Jorginho and Alonso - cant you all crawl back to the Jorgi / Alonso threads where this talk is justified? Lets talk about the big news - Roman, the best owner in football, continues to do "right" by Chelsea. The man needs a statue and a stand named after him for all he has done for us. Lets hope that when the politicking dies down, that we can pay tribute in any way we can, to who has been, undoubtedly, the best owner in football. Edited May 5, 20224 yr by nonotnowjim
May 5, 20224 yr 5 minutes ago, Mana said: Here's the thing, I don't care what he does for Italy. Neither do I, but when you're the only ever present for two champions of Europe in the space of a month and a half the odds are you're not a lucky passenger. 6 minutes ago, Mana said: Be honest. Truly. Hand on heart. Do you think Jorginho last season, was better than Kante? Mount? Mendy? Kovacic? Silva? Rudiger? Can you? Last year's Ballon d'Or was a complete farce. He was certainly more crucial than Kovacic in the run, Kova didn't play a minute against Real and 'only' the last 10 of the final.
May 5, 20224 yr I wonder whether Roman is considering’Rich Jim’s’ offer, I think so, and like others have said, the Eton cronies may push for the Brit…
May 5, 20224 yr 12 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said: All this bollocks on here about Jorginho and Alonso - cant you all crawl back to the Jorgi / Alonso threads where this talk is justified? Lets talk about the big news - Roman, the best owner in football, continues to do "right" by Chelsea. The man needs a statue and a stand named after him for all he has done for us. Lets hope that when the politicking dies down, that we can pay tribute in any way we can, to who has been, undoubtedly, the best owner in football. Hey @Munkworth we need one of your "this is a .... thread " pictures. Also @nonotnowjim you forgot the part about him giving you the gift of Timo Werner 😉 Edited May 5, 20224 yr by axman2526
May 5, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Mana said: Boy you guys cannot read. You need to go to school. “I was itching to put Jorginho in this list as well, but he is more of a disappointing signing than a complete dud like Alonso.” Aka, Jorginho and Alonso are more of disappointing signings than complete duds. Even IF you think I said Alonso is a complete dud, I would have lumped him with Bakayoko on that list! Use your noggings idiots! Its ok to back track but you need to recognise you have, you need to switch your mouth off soon or you will reverse your back track 😂
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