On 01/12/2025 at 17:09, The Rising Sun said:

The way Trev has conducted himself despite being told he wasn't in the managers plans, being banished to the bomb squad, loaned to Palace, then being recalled , has been dignified and exemplary .

Whatever you think of him as a football player, his behaviour is a credit to him, and an example to everyone else at our club whoever they are.

probably worth a bump.

16 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

This is the sort of thing I'm talking about, he has so many apologists for him it drives me insane. Not every bad defender has to have individual errors every game to be a bad defender. We are awful at the back almost every game and chalobah is usually a starter. It's fine to claim he's our best/most consistent defender, I won't argue with that, but the problem is that's a very very low bar. We're comparing him to Tosin, Badiashile and Fofana who's rarely fit.

We've seen Sanchez save our arses numerous times this season because of poor defending and you can see in most games how frustrated he gets.

Name his mistakes this season game by game.

If you continue to rotate the defence to the degree that we do, there is zero opportunity for any of the individual players to build proper relationships and trust with each other.

This can only be having a significant impact on our defensive stability.

We are doing quite well in the circumstances !

9 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

If you continue to rotate the defence to the degree that we do, there is zero opportunity for any of the individual players to build proper relationships and trust with each other.

This can only be having a significant impact on our defensive stability.

We are doing quite well in the circumstances !

Joint 5th best defence in the league whilst we play musical chairs with our defenders. Not bad at all.

2 minutes ago, Remodez said:

We are always going to be shaky at the back regardless of who starts simply cause our options are not very good. Chalobah has been the best of the lot but he alone is not going to be enough to stop a shaky defence.

Yep you're right, but would Trev look good alongside a top CB? I don't think he would. Much like the other CBs we have he needs replacing next season. The point I'm making is we all slag off the other CBs we have but Trev has had a free ride because he's slightly less rubbish than the rest we have, but he isn't good enough.

21 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Yep you're right, but would Trev look good alongside a top CB? I don't think he would. Much like the other CBs we have he needs replacing next season. The point I'm making is we all slag off the other CBs we have but Trev has had a free ride because he's slightly less rubbish than the rest we have, but he isn't good enough.

What a silly comment. Of course he would look good alongside a top CB, seeing as he's the best of our CBs right now and often playing alongside someone prone to errors. He's mopping up mistakes from other defenders in every game, making vital blocks, great clearing headers. If you put him alongside a Thiago Silva esque defender, that brings the confidence in his defensive partner that Chalobah is currently lacking.

22 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Yep you're right, but would Trev look good alongside a top CB? I don't think he would. Much like the other CBs we have he needs replacing next season. The point I'm making is we all slag off the other CBs we have but Trev has had a free ride because he's slightly less rubbish than the rest we have, but he isn't good enough.

Yes I do think he would be good with a top CB by his side. He is exactly like Cahill in that aspect, standout defender in mid table teams but at bigger club will need a Terry to truly shine.

I agree with the overall point that he is not a starter CB for a team wanting to seriously win things but he's not getting a free ride, he has genuinely been good in his individual performances despite the defence as a whole not looking great.

3 minutes ago, Remodez said:

Yes I do think he would be good with a top CB by his side. He is exactly like Cahill in that aspect, standout defender in mid table teams but at bigger club will need a Terry to truly shine.

I agree with the overall point that he is not a starter CB for a team wanting to seriously win things but he's not getting a free ride, he has genuinely been good in his individual performances despite the defence as a whole not looking great.

I like the Cahill comparison. Also, remember Cahill won the prem twice as a starter CB and I would see Chalobah at a similar level. He's good enough to be a starter in a team challenging for the title, but would benefit from a top tier defender alongside him.

Posted in the Rosenior chat but thought it was relevant here. This isn't a case of my just picking on Trev, but you can't watch the goals we're conceding and think Trev isn't as much of a problem as the others.

5 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Chalobah gets nowhere near enough stick, the guy is sh*te.

For what it's worth, I do think he has been really poor this season, I don't think he has been worse than any of our other CB's though. I think most people see Chalobah as a squad player rather than a regular starter, but every CB available at the club is worse so he has to start most games.

19 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

20 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Posted in the Rosenior chat but thought it was relevant here. This isn't a case of my just picking on Trev, but you can't watch the goals we're conceding and think Trev isn't as much of a problem as the others.

Posted in the Rosenior chat but thought it was relevant here. This isn't a case of my just picking on Trev, but you can't watch the goals we're conceding and think Trev isn't as much of a problem as the others.

Chalobah isn't even involved in 95% of these clips lmao

November 2025... Don't think he played, but all the same........

Thomas Tuchel hands Trevoh Chalobah late England call-up as top star left on crutches

Trevoh Chalobah has been called up to the England squad for the upcoming World Cup qualifiers, with Manchester City goalkeeper James Trafford also included after two withdrawals, and with questions over Marc Guehi

1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

For what it's worth, I do think he has been really poor this season, I don't think he has been worse than any of our other CB's though. I think most people see Chalobah as a squad player rather than a regular starter, but every CB available at the club is worse so he has to start most games.

You've identified the real issue Scott. .."Every CB available at the club is worse '

Chalobah clearly isn't the problem.

1 hour ago, timetowaste said:

Posted in the Rosenior chat but thought it was relevant here. This isn't a case of my just picking on Trev, but you can't watch the goals we're conceding and think Trev isn't as much of a problem as the others.

That video is an indictment of our defence as a whole and not of any one individual.

In an ideal world Chalobah is your 3rd or 4th choice CB. Much like we saw under Tuchel.

He's now being tasked to lead the line for a club aspiring (or pretending to aspire under these clowns) for league and champions league glory. For that reason alone its very difficult to pin anything on him.

Last night we dropped points due to bad mistakes by Caicedo and Acheampong and a glaring miss from Palmer, and yet much of today's forum traffic is having a pop at Trev Chalobah ...

8 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Last night we dropped points due to bad mistakes by Caicedo and Acheampong and a glaring miss from Palmer, and yet much of today's forum traffic is having a pop at Trev Chalobah ...

Nah they're getting their licks too. Chalobah made a piss poor clearance attempt in the build up though.

For me, with Chalobah it's a built up frustration. He's very good in what you want in a modern day CB but it's sometimes clouded with how poor he is challenging the ball aerially against ST's. or challenging the ST with their back turned. Not commanding in the slightest.

Edited February 11Feb 11 by Sconnie Blue

8 hours ago, OTL said:

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8 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Yep you're right, but would Trev look good alongside a top CB? I don't think he would. Much like the other CBs we have he needs replacing next season. The point I'm making is we all slag off the other CBs we have but Trev has had a free ride because he's slightly less rubbish than the rest we have, but he isn't good enough.

He probably would look better. He was playing alongside a teenager last night. ( A decent teenager tbf ) And alongside not even half decent CB's at other times .

4 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Posted in the Rosenior chat but thought it was relevant here. This isn't a case of my just picking on Trev, but you can't watch the goals we're conceding and think Trev isn't as much of a problem as the others.

Time for Sarr to get a chance.

Him and Fofana, with Josh at RB if Reece cannot play.

Said it before centre backs do the least amount of running in the modern game. This area should be our most consistent starters.

8 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Time for Sarr to get a chance.

Him and Fofana, with Josh at RB if Reece cannot play.

We haven't seen Sarr play for us yet. we might be begging for Badiashile afterward s ;)

32 minutes ago, forbzy said:

We haven't seen Sarr play for us yet. we might be begging for Badiashile afterward s ;)

Maybe but I miss us having some African powerhouses in our side. Hopefully big Sarr can deliver.

20 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Yep you're right, but would Trev look good alongside a top CB? I don't think he would. Much like the other CBs we have he needs replacing next season. The point I'm making is we all slag off the other CBs we have but Trev has had a free ride because he's slightly less rubbish than the rest we have, but he isn't good enough.

Trev is more than good enough. If you want to get CB who can do what Trev does + physically imposing, you need to open your chequebook.

18 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Nah they're getting their licks too. Chalobah made a piss poor clearance attempt in the build up though.

For me, with Chalobah it's a built up frustration. He's very good in what you want in a modern day CB but it's sometimes clouded with how poor he is challenging the ball aerially against ST's. or challenging the ST with their back turned. Not commanding in the slightest.

I remember Chalobah winning the ball multiple times against Leeds when it was fed in to a striker with their back to goal. He kept sticking out a leg and stopped the ST from controlling it.

I also think he's one of the better headers in the team. He's not faultless, but he's not the problem.

45 minutes ago, Shweaves said:

I remember Chalobah winning the ball multiple times against Leeds when it was fed in to a striker with their back to goal. He kept sticking out a leg and stopped the ST from controlling it.

I also think he's one of the better headers in the team. He's not faultless, but he's not the problem.

I honestly don't mate.

Maybe in the first half when we were dominating but it still doesn't excuse the fact those are glaring weaknesses in his game that hinder him from becoming a top CB, especially in matches where we need control. He actually has the worst aerailly duel % in the team out of our CBs, and they are ass in the air.

It is a moot argument and honestly time wasting becaues we're all at the conclusion he's a good CB that shouldn't be in the position he's in.