Valpo Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) So since we are going to be sold, does anyone have a preference for the new owners? As an American I said earlier that it's probably not a good idea if an American buys the team. Americans own pro-sports teams to make a profit, because in America they do that. In fact it's nearly impossible for an NFL team to lose money. That said some Americans are worse than others. So when I saw this https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/chelsea-fc-sale-tracker-new-york-jets-woody-johnson-sacramento-kings-vivek-ranadive-reportedly-prep-bids/ Woody Johnson, owner of the New York Jets (A team that has consistently sucked in the NFL) was preparing a bid, my reaction was If Woody Johnson takes over Chelsea we'll be relegated in like 5 years. And then I won't even be able to watch Chelsea matches in the US. Edited March 8, 2022 by Valpo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbzy Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Valpo said: So since we are going to be sold, does anyone have a preference for the new owners? As an American I said earlier that it's probably not a good idea if an American buys the team. Americans own pro-sports teams to make a profit, because in America they do that. In fact it's nearly impossible for an NFL team to lose money. That said some Americans are worse than others. So when I saw this https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/chelsea-fc-sale-tracker-new-york-jets-woody-johnson-sacramento-kings-vivek-ranadive-reportedly-prep-bids/ Woody Johnson, owner of the New York Jets (A team that has consistently sucked in the NFL) was preparing a bid, my reaction was If Woody Johnson takes over Chelsea we'll be relegated in like 5 years. You only have to take a look at the New York Jets to see how bad this would be. One of the worst franchises in NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefBlueCFC Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 That gif was my exact sentiment when I saw that Woody Johnson was linked with purchasing Chelsea. I'm trying to think of the equivalent of the NYJ in the prem and I can't think of a suitable club to compare them to, but jeez louise this would be disastrous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, chiefBlueCFC said: That gif was my exact sentiment when I saw that Woody Johnson was linked with purchasing Chelsea. I'm trying to think of the equivalent of the NYJ in the prem and I can't think of a suitable club to compare them to, but jeez louise this would be disastrous Man U would be the closest comparison because they could be a lot better than they are. But that isn't even a great comparison because they are still competing for a 4th place spot. They are still consistently in the top half of the league. It's hard to compare the two leagues because the NFL is designed to be as fair as possible and to give the worst teams every possible opportunity to get better. So when a team is terrible for years and years and years like the Jets have been, the only plausible explanation is bad ownership. I really think if Woody Johnson takes over Chelsea we'll be relegated in like 5 years. Quite frankly he would be a bigger disaster to the fortunes of the club than a plane crash killing the entire team and coaching staff. Edited March 8, 2022 by Valpo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonotnowjim Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, Valpo said: I really think if Woody Johnson takes over Chelsea we'll be relegated in like 5 years. Quite frankly he would be a bigger disaster to the fortunes of the club than a plane crash killing the entire team and coaching staff. Get a grip! What a ridiculous thing to say! BKLYNProdigy, Valerie, OneTommyLangley and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider6004 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 We have not heard on why the Swiss consortium failed that might tell us something. @Valpo totally on board with why you have concerns with US ownership. We either need a business owner with a long term view or one that is buying for the kudos of owning a club with the pockets to increase ground capacity while building teams to challenge. The other model is we prepare to be a yo-yo club and rely on the development squad and paying lower salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomansRoubles Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Anyone who has the best interests of the club and keep us challenging at the top. With our comparatively less revenue compared to the other big clubs, it has to be somebody who will invest in the stadium and the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axman2526 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, strider6004 said: We have not heard on why the Swiss consortium failed that might tell us something. @Valpo totally on board with why you have concerns with US ownership. We either need a business owner with a long term view or one that is buying for the kudos of owning a club with the pockets to increase ground capacity while building teams to challenge. The other model is we prepare to be a yo-yo club and rely on the development squad and paying lower salaries. Far as I have read no bids have been ruled in or out and the deadline for final submission is the 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said: Get a grip! What a ridiculous thing to say! Reason I say that is that sort of thing sinks the team for 10 years or so. Woody Johnson sinks the club for as long as he decides to own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexyfootball Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I'd be amazed if anyone offers more than $1.5 Bn. Or if there is even one offer come to that :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axman2526 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Sexyfootball said: I'd be amazed if anyone offers more than $1.5 Bn. Or if there is even one offer come to that 🙂 Lot of pressure for us to be taken away by the UK Gov. If that happens they won't care about us going to a good owner, they will just sell to the highest bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonotnowjim Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Valpo said: Reason I say that is that sort of thing sinks the team for 10 years or so. Woody Johnson sinks the club for as long as he decides to own it. Again, get a grip.... A bad owner, even one that take us to the conference, is never, in any universe, anywhere near as much of a tragedy as a plane crash which kills people. Edited March 8, 2022 by nonotnowjim Sexyfootball and Valerie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom2011 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I'm not too fussed as long as the new owners keep the current structure (staff) for at least 12 months, then reassess, are prepared to invest in the next transfer window, and they are committed to the stadium rebuild. The other point to consider is that the possibility of a super league is again on the horizon, which would be a carrot for some bidders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkunku Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Valpo said: Woody Johnson BKLYNProdigy, Valerie, dkw and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie8Lampard Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 The fact that we are being linked to multiple Americans concerns me. The only non-American entity interested in us apparently is a Saudi Arabia consortium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sindre Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 It seems like Wyss-Boehly have submitted their official bid for the club. It remains to be seen if its accepted but I do got a funny feeling they are going to be our new owners in a littlebit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axman2526 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said: The fact that we are being linked to multiple Americans concerns me. The only non-American entity interested in us apparently is a Saudi Arabia consortium. You forgetting the Turkish billionaire? Lol 😉 10 minutes ago, Sindre said: It seems like Wyss-Boehly have submitted their official bid for the club. It remains to be seen if its accepted but I do got a funny feeling they are going to be our new owners in a littlebit. Could well be. Seem to be front runners. I can see why we are being chased by several US investors. If you think about it Roman is selling us Debt free. So don't bother investing in the stadium. Sell off what you can of the squad. Utilize the youth team and free transfers. Bring wages down. Keep the side 4th or 3rd to bring in CL money. Could quickly become profitable. ducavis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sindre Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, axman2526 said: I can see why we are being chased by several US investors. If you think about it Roman is selling us Debt free. So don't bother investing in the stadium. Sell off what you can of the squad. Utilize the youth team and free transfers. Bring wages down. Keep the side 4th or 3rd to bring in CL money. Could quickly become profitable. Well, that would be the end of Chelsea as a contender so lets hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axman2526 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, Sindre said: Well, that would be the end of Chelsea as a contender so lets hope not. Oh I agree it would be would very much follow the model Arsenal and United have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz4Chelsea Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, axman2526 said: Oh I agree it would be would very much follow the model Arsenal and United have. No way could the United model work with Chelsea. Spending vast amounts on absolute dross that that fails to achieve anything, only at a club with a smaller brand and stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamrb Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 If you actually look at net spend over the last 10 years, it shows we can remain relevant. But certainly not ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexyfootball Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Luiz4Chelsea said: No way could the United model work with Chelsea. Spending vast amounts on absolute dross that that fails to achieve anything, only at a club with a smaller brand and stadium. My traffic light assessment of our 15 most expensive signings of the Roman era ... (list from Transfermarkt, so any data errors are theirs - Drogba fee is £10M higher than I remember for example !) Given the high number of failures, a future in which we aren't as "financially" competitive/dominant is not necessarily a show stopper ! You could easily argue that only Drogba at #15 has actually been a genuine difference maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said: My traffic light assessment of our 15 most expensive signings of the Roman era ... (list from Transfermarkt, so any data errors are theirs - Drogba fee is £10M higher than I remember for example !) Given the high number of failures, a future in which we aren't as "financially" competitive/dominant is not necessarily a show stopper ! You could easily argue that only Drogba at #15 has actually been a genuine difference maker. You have got 2 amber and 3 red that all won CL with us, just seems unfair and like we forget the whole point of this is to win silverware. We could have a team like Spuds with Harry Kane and his brilliant individual stats, that has basically won f**k all for them. Cone, Simplymo, strider6004 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gol15 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 The majority of our highest valued transfers are from the recent years and that has a lot to do with the football climate where the transfer fees got much higher than 10+ years ago. Some of those transfers were also simply replacements due to other players leaving the squad as well, we lost Hazard, Willian and Pedro and got Pulisic, Ziyech and Werner. Then it's also a bit subjective to say that Chilwell that has been injured a lot has a full pass as a green transfer but not Jorginho that has been a key player for years, the impact of Jorginho has been far greater for example. Obviously some transfers were failures, replacing Matic for Bakayoko and D.Costa for Morata was a big reason why we couldn't keep up with Man City for example but at the same time we bought Pulisic as 20 years old so it was pretty impossible for him to do what Hazard did at 27-29. Luiz4Chelsea, strider6004 and Cone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Reality check ladies & gents, whomever buys our club will not ever be up for the same level of investment as Roman, the 1.5 billion he is forgiving is basically the sum that was required to keep Chelsea FC afloat over his tenure (purchase made June 2003), simplistically put divide the forgiven amount by the number of months of tenure, then multiply by 12 for an annual average. 1,500,000,000 divided by 213 = 7,042,253 multiplied by 12 = 84,507,042 pounds sterling average annual subsidy Highly unlikely any potential buyers on the planet are going to be so generous if succesful. The club will have to find that amount from somewhere else (hence the need for stadium expansion) to maintain current operations i.e. to fund player transfers & salaries (of course all within the framework of UK accounting laws) OR cut costs which in this industry means lowering the wage bill and a 'sensible' transfer policy - in other words selling off some of the assets to raise cash and lower wages and likely no more marquee purchases for huge contract sums. Lucky we have won it all really !!! ducavis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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