1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

If he gets fit he should be getting into the starting lineup, I think he just needs an extra month.

I don't know the player. But just wondering on what basis a player that reportedly struggled at Juventus should just be walking into our starting line up when fit?

Edited September 30, 20223 yr by True Blue23

15 hours ago, True Blue23 said:

I don't know the player. But just wondering on what basis a player that reportedly struggled at Juventus should just be walking into our starting line up when fit?

Just looks like that when he was fit that he was a well-rounded player to me.

Wonder what’s up with this guy , midfield seems to be crying out for a bit of athleticism and he can’t even make the bench.

2 hours ago, Dubair said:

Wonder what’s up with this guy , midfield seems to be crying out for a bit of athleticism and he can’t even make the bench.

I think Zakaria is Swiss for Drinkwater

What is wrong with this guy that the terribly poor Kovacic and Jorgi only have RLC to concern themselves with when Kante is injured?

2 hours ago, axman2526 said:

What is wrong with this guy that the terribly poor Kovacic and Jorgi only have RLC to concern themselves with when Kante is injured?

He lacks fitness apparently. 

6 minutes ago, charierre said:

He lacks fitness apparently. 

Hopefully we have a plan to get him up to speed soon then.

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

Hopefully we have a plan to get him up to speed soon then.

Motivation. Being unfit as a professional sportsman is unforgivable. 

Shouldn’t the topic heading be changed to Saul the second?

4 hours ago, charierre said:

Motivation. Being unfit as a professional sportsman is unforgivable. 

i am sure we mean matchfit

8 hours ago, Jangz said:

i am sure we mean matchfit

He's been here over a month now though hasn't he with behind doors matches being played 

Lol we haven't even seen Zakaria play yet and most people have given up on him. He was injured at Juve and needs time to adjust to Premier league  but he will be an asset in my opinion.

It is never a great sign when a team loans a player out after signing them only half a season ago. 

Must have been pretty bad at Juventus.

Edited October 2, 20223 yr by Chelsc96

On 02/10/2022 at 20:24, Chelsc96 said:

It is never a great sign when a team loans a player out after signing them only half a season ago. 

Must have been pretty bad at Juventus.

Whenever these kind of signings/loans get made offloading wages, always feel like a bit of politics, you scratch my back we scratch yours type of thing; building relationships with clubs for future ‘real deal’ transfer relations.

Maybe he was signed on loan so that we can get him match fit, send him back and get a sweeter deal on someone else.

We do have great medical and training facilities...and these type of deals/arrangements do happen. 

 

Maybe...

How poorly must he be rated to not even get minutes when we are 3 up against Milan reserves.

13 hours ago, axman2526 said:

How poorly must he be rated to not even get minutes when we are 3 up against Milan reserves.

Perhaps not exactly poor, but just not yet up to requirements as shown in training. Semantics, I know , but until he has actually played for us, I'm not going to draw any conclusions.

I hope someone asks Potter about Zakaria, as to why he is so far away from even a token sub apparence. I mean he played him in the behind closed doors friendly vs Brighton and since nothing, was he that bad?

Edited October 8, 20223 yr by axman2526

He's a worse signing than Drinkwater at moment, can't even get a minute when we were 3 up.

3 hours ago, axman2526 said:

I hope someone asks Potter about Zakaria, as to why he is so far away from even a token sub apparence. I mean he played him in the behind closed doors friendly vs Brighton and since nothing, was he that bad?

We signed him while he was still injured so I'm guessing he needs more time to settle in and to show he's fit and then it maybe takes some time in training to get the hang of it all.

I don't believe he's a bad player at all, Potter will use him this season and then we'll see just how well he can do. I would like to see him playing with RLC in the middle, both are tall and like to move forward.

1 hour ago, icecoolguy22 said:

He's a worse signing than Drinkwater at moment, can't even get a minute when we were 3 up.

Might be worth judging him after he's played for us, just a thought.

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

We signed him while he was still injured so I'm guessing he needs more time to settle in and to show he's fit and then it maybe takes some time in training to get the hang of it all.

I don't believe he's a bad player at all, Potter will use him this season and then we'll see just how well he can do. I would like to see him playing with RLC in the middle, both are tall and like to move forward.

He played in that behind closed doors friendly though. He must be over his injury if he was able to start that game.

7 hours ago, axman2526 said:

He played in that behind closed doors friendly though. He must be over his injury if he was able to start that game.

Maybe maybe not, he's training now and he wants to stay which would be great for us if he shows that he's quality.

https://www.teamtalk.com/chelsea/denis-zakaria-makes-feelings-clear-permanent-stay-admitting-bench-role-not-easy

If he does well once he does get his chance, we should seriously buy him permanently like we did when it came down with Kovacic, after all we'll lose both Kante and Jorginho.

 

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

Maybe maybe not, he's training now and he wants to stay which would be great for us if he shows that he's quality.

https://www.teamtalk.com/chelsea/denis-zakaria-makes-feelings-clear-permanent-stay-admitting-bench-role-not-easy

If he does well once he does get his chance, we should seriously buy him permanently like we did when it came down with Kovacic, after all we'll lose both Kante and Jorginho.

 

Let's see if he gets some games between now and the world cup. If he does not it does not look great for him.

Fabrizio has said on his channel that Zakaria was purely a TT driven signing. That Potter has shown he is not interested in using him as he is at the bottom of his midfielder list, and that Juve, the player and ourselves will be talking about the situation ahead of January and perhaps ending the loan there as none of us want it to carry on as it is.