7 minutes ago, Mod said:

Hopefully, the server holds up tomorrow when Potter gets the Tin tack!

@JM7has not reported it , therefore it is not happening. 

The server is doing great Mod 👍 

20 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Ah someone of the names put forward.

Poch. Really? Some of you want an ex spud, who managed to lose a one horse race to a bunch of Leicester journeymen, who is the only recent PSG manager to fail to win the French league? 

Brendan? That same chap many of you took he pi$$ out of for years, calling him a bunch of funny names? You think that guy is a winner?

I get why many are unhappy with Potter and putting all the blame at his feet, but change just for the sake of change?

Tbf to Poch he took over half way through the season at a 3 point deficit to the current league leaders at the time. You can argue with the talent at his disposal he should still win, but he finished 1 point off. Considering he started 3 points off first place it's not the worst thing in the world. I agree though he should have won the league there twice. 

Aside from him being an ex Spurs coach something Mourinho and Conte will soon to be also it isn't as relevant as it once was. I don't really see how Poch isn't at least an upgrade on Potter, imo that isn't a change for the sake of change. I wouldn't actively choose to replace TT with Poch, but if the choice is between Poch and Potter then I suppose the former is the better bet.

We'll never know how it would have turned out with him, he could have been a complete disaster. I think he's the name being thrown around because he's actively made it known he's interested still in the job. The other potential candidates may need more convincing and may be less willing to come in now and would rather wait until the summer I presume. 

13 minutes ago, Mod said:

Hopefully, the server holds up tomorrow when Potter gets the Tin tack!

Is there a chance he goes tomorrow? It seems Boehly is still in love with him according to most media sources

6 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

 The server is doing great Mod 👍 

Great for some not all of us 😭 I've been glitchy for a couple of weeks now. No idea why

More insightful than most of Potter's interviews to be honest 😂

1 hour ago, bluehaze said:

Is 47 considered young ?. 

Please somebody say “YES”! 😂 

3 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Is there a chance he goes tomorrow?

No

1 minute ago, LongtimerLurker said:

Great for some not all of us 😭 I've been glitchy for a couple of weeks now. No idea why

Hmm, suggests @Modmight be upset with you? 😉

9 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

Tbf to Poch he took over half way through the season at a 3 point deficit to the current league leaders at the time. You can argue with the talent at his disposal he should still win, but he finished 1 point off. Considering he started 3 points off first place it's not the worst thing in the world. I agree though he should have won the league there twice. 

Aside from him being an ex Spurs coach something Mourinho and Conte will soon to be also it isn't as relevant as it once was. I don't really see how Poch isn't at least an upgrade on Potter, imo that isn't a change for the sake of change. I wouldn't actively choose to replace TT with Poch, but if the choice is between Poch and Potter then I suppose the former is the better bet.

We'll never know how it would have turned out with him, he could have been a complete disaster. I think he's the name being thrown around because he's actively made it known he's interested still in the job. The other potential candidates may need more convincing and may be less willing to come in now and would rather wait until the summer I presume. 

If he goes simply finding an upgrade is not enough in my book. For that cost, all that upheaval, qe best find a new Jose like United may well have with ETH.

26 minutes ago, coco said:

It might sound way off to some, but bare me out, were all expecting small progressive steps in our performances and results, but it's quiet possible that an out of form team can click together in one game, and then go on a good run, sometimes it happens with a new manager, or new players, or a change in tactics or formation. A most memorable example was when Conte was manager, we were on a very poor run, we went to Arsenal, was 3-0 down and Conte changed the formation in defence and we came back to 3-3, then we went on our best ever premier league win streak and won the league. 

As life will have it, Potter vs Conte is the D-day for maybe both of them!

Conte is going to push once again for a top 4 and a win against us is all he needs to hype up everybody there, similarly if Potter wins it might also be a turning point and we might just get some momentum going and win 3 in a row.

6 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

Great for some not all of us 😭 I've been glitchy for a couple of weeks now. No idea why

Looks to me more like a browser issue?

This is a genuine concern if true, as any football fan when the owner is throwing around money its quite exciting. If this is true about Potter's wage at Brighton, plus you add in the money we've spent on players since he and his group bought the club. It's becoming apparent to me Boehly is just a kid in a toy store throwing money at literally anything he can. 

From £2m a year to £12m a year that's beyond insane who is making these decisions this getting to the point of serious lack of accountability. Someone is failing at their job and its not specifically Potter, but much higher up.

 

1 minute ago, Mod said:

Looks to me more like a browser issue?

When I switch to desktop mode it does seem to fix it, but I still can't make polls so idk if there is just something wrong with my chrome app

Just now, LongtimerLurker said:

When I switch to desktop mode it does seem to fix it, but I still can't make polls so idk if there is just something wrong with my chrome app

I'll try it on a phone and let you know, you could download Firefox as a backup and see if the same happens!

7 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

Tbf to Poch he took over half way through the season at a 3 point deficit to the current league leaders at the time. You can argue with the talent at his disposal he should still win, but he finished 1 point off. Considering he started 3 points off first place it's not the worst thing in the world. I agree though he should have won the league there twice. 

Aside from him being an ex Spurs coach something Mourinho and Conte will soon to be also it isn't as relevant as it once was. I don't really see how Poch isn't at least an upgrade on Potter, imo that isn't a change for the sake of change. I wouldn't actively choose to replace TT with Poch, but if the choice is between Poch and Potter then I suppose the former is the better bet.

We'll never know how it would have turned out with him, he could have been a complete disaster. I think he's the name being thrown around because he's actively made it known he's interested still in the job. The other potential candidates may need more convincing and may be less willing to come in now and would rather wait until the summer I presume. 

I've never understood people who wanted Potter over Poch it was absurd to me then and is now, there's not even an argument that Potter has ever been half the manager but for some reason people like to pretend Potter did was something special at Brighton while downplaying all the achievements of Pochettino and I don't understand why.

The strangest thing about it is that Poch did the exact job at Southampton that they think Potter did at Brighton.

Poch took over a Southampton team heading towards relegation in January and guided them to a comfortable 14th before finishing 8th in his first full season playing great football, scoring a lot of goals and finishing with a superb goal difference. (Potter never finished with a positive goal difference in 3 years)

He's got to a CL final, won trophies, probably should have won a title but Spurs.  Didn't have a club so wouldn't have cost any compensation, plays attacking football that results in goals, loves living in London and openly wanted the job and unless Boehlys cut off is 48 he's still a young manager.

Poch on a short term deal seemed the most obvious managerial change in years after Tuchel went.

2 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

This is a genuine concern if true, as any football fan when the owner is throwing around money its quite exciting. If this is true about Potter's wage at Brighton, plus you add in the money we've spent on players since he and his group bought the club. It's becoming apparent to me Boehly is just a kid in a toy store throwing money at literally anything he can. 

From £2m a year to £12m a year that's beyond insane who is making these decisions this getting to the point of serious lack of accountability. Someone is failing at their job and its not specifically Potter, but much higher up.

 

That Potter having Boehly's nudes theory is beginning to look more accurate by the minute

9 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

If he goes simply finding an upgrade is not enough in my book. For that cost, all that upheaval, qe best find a new Jose like United may well have with ETH.

...Thomas Tuchel?

Just now, LongtimerLurker said:

This is a genuine concern if true, as any football fan when the owner is throwing around money its quite exciting. If this is true about Potter's wage at Brighton, plus you add in the money we've spent on players since he and his group bought the club. It's becoming apparent to me Boehly is just a kid in a toy store throwing money at literally anything he can. 

From £2m a year to £12m a year that's beyond insane who is making these decisions this getting to the point of serious lack of accountability. Someone is failing at their job and its not specifically Potter, but much higher up.

 

Boehly needs to learn to chill a bit wtf I'm sure Potter would have accepted 5m per year for the same time period... Imagine being a billionaire and scamming yourself for no reason

37 minutes ago, olderschoolcfc said:

Axeman, 

JT is at the club isn't he? That would be my interim manager while Todd talks to Steve Holland for the summer. If he wants to talk to another manager, Steve Cooper has done wonders with Forrest. Those are my outsiders. Poch can jog back to white heart fail, I'd love Carlo hand on heart. Brilliant manager. 

I'd love to be wrong but everything points to JT being an awful manager.

7 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

This is a genuine concern if true, as any football fan when the owner is throwing around money its quite exciting. If this is true about Potter's wage at Brighton, plus you add in the money we've spent on players since he and his group bought the club. It's becoming apparent to me Boehly is just a kid in a toy store throwing money at literally anything he can. 

From £2m a year to £12m a year that's beyond insane who is making these decisions this getting to the point of serious lack of accountability. Someone is failing at their job and its not specifically Potter, but much higher up.

 

4 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

That Potter having Boehly's nudes theory is beginning to look more accurate by the minute

He must do mate I've done the maths and Potter went from roughly £41k a week at Brighton to £250k I'm sorry but how are the board going to say no to Mason Mount getting £240k a week (not saying he should but merely on principle), but agree to pay Potter 10 grand a week more. It's actually a circus that this geezer is running. 

Was looking at the Brighton thread to see what they thought of him, and this post pretty much summed it up.

 

'Always thought there could be an element of " The Emperors New Clothes " about Potter. I wasn't sure for a long time. The style changed but he didn't improve results and points dramatically until well into his third season. I couldn't make my mind up about his strategy. Were the constant team changes...1 ) tactical acumen...2) change for the sake of change...3)...he was indecisive and never really knew his best team...4)...all part of 'project Potter '...i.e...creating an image of a free thinking, flexible, astute manager, constantly keeping the opposition on their toes.
There was no consistency with his team at Brighton. Long winless runs. Then spurts of good form. Goalscoring completely drying up, then bursts of goals going in. Players don't buy into a project. That is boardroom level and to some extent fan level. Players want a consistent brief. They want a run in the side and want to trust the same teammates around them.
The Leeds game changed everything for me. His overreaction to a few gentle boos of frustration, touchline histrionics and swearing under his breath, followed by his desultory comment about history lessons and suddenly the veneer was shattered and the mask was down. This was a man hellbent on cultivating an image and a media presence and this tiny bit of ruffling was not acceptable.
He courted the media and they lapped him up. He sold himself well. Chelsea were sucked in and didn't really do their homework. Now the pattern, familiar to us, has re-emerged at an elite level and the discontent is ten times louder. The only question now is how much have Boehly and Co. bought into the project and how determined will they be to resist the toxicity within the fanbase. Potter is starting to undermine his own position with ill-judged statements post defeats. Chelsea fans don't want to hear that they lost because Southampton were ' well prepared '
If they decide to write off this season, then he won't just have to hit the ground running next season, he will have to be ripping up trees and hands up anyone who can actually see that happening?
He looks and sounds out of his depth. A man fighting to stay calm on the outside but desperate on the inside. I think, sooner rather than later, he needs to be put out of his misery.'

 

 

Edited February 19, 20233 yr by Drogba1

First ever post so be gentle.

Can  anyone   see  where  next  POINT  is coming   from?

If  he  was  managing  any other team the press and that clubs fans would be calling for him to get the sack.But the moment a Chelsea  fan says it its "you Chelsea   fans  need to give  your  manager  time ".

I  think   the press  are very  easy  on  him .

 

20 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

He must do mate I've done the maths and Potter went from roughly £41k a week at Brighton to £250k I'm sorry but how are the board going to say no to Mason Mount getting £240k a week (not saying he should but merely on principle), but agree to pay Potter 10 grand a week more. It's actually a circus that this geezer is running. 

I said this a few days ago 

TB is destroying our club.... 

I think the club buy good players but exist type of decisions unbelieveble bads 

this is one of them

38 minutes ago, TimesUpPotter said:

I've never understood people who wanted Potter over Poch it was absurd to me then and is now, there's not even an argument that Potter has ever been half the manager but for some reason people like to pretend Potter did was something special at Brighton while downplaying all the achievements of Pochettino and I don't understand why.

The strangest thing about it is that Poch did the exact job at Southampton that they think Potter did at Brighton.

Poch took over a Southampton team heading towards relegation in January and guided them to a comfortable 14th before finishing 8th in his first full season playing great football, scoring a lot of goals and finishing with a superb goal difference. (Potter never finished with a positive goal difference in 3 years)

He's got to a CL final, won trophies, probably should have won a title but Spurs.  Didn't have a club so wouldn't have cost any compensation, plays attacking football that results in goals, loves living in London and openly wanted the job and unless Boehlys cut off is 48 he's still a young manager.

Poch on a short term deal seemed the most obvious managerial change in years after Tuchel went.

Kind of still makes sense now. I was against it at one point but with every new barrel bottom scraped Poch makes more and more sense as the obvious choice.

It's that ridiculous contract that Boehly put Potter on, that's the issue.

18 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Was looking at the Brighton thread to see what they thought of him, and this post pretty much summed it up.

 

'Always thought there could be an element of " The Emperors New Clothes " about Potter. I wasn't sure for a long time. The style changed but he didn't improve results and points dramatically until well into his third season. I couldn't make my mind up about his strategy. Were the constant team changes...1 ) tactical acumen...2) change for the sake of change...3)...he was indecisive and never really knew his best team...4)...all part of 'project Potter '...i.e...creating an image of a free thinking, flexible, astute manager, constantly keeping the opposition on their toes.
There was no consistency with his team at Brighton. Long winless runs. Then spurts of good form. Goalscoring completely drying up, then bursts of goals going in. Players don't buy into a project. That is boardroom level and to some extent fan level. Players want a consistent brief. They want a run in the side and want to trust the same teammates around them.
The Leeds game changed everything for me. His overreaction to a few gentle boos of frustration, touchline histrionics and swearing under his breath, followed by his desultory comment about history lessons and suddenly the veneer was shattered and the mask was down. This was a man hellbent on cultivating an image and a media presence and this tiny bit of ruffling was not acceptable.
He courted the media and they lapped him up. He sold himself well. Chelsea were sucked in and didn't really do their homework. Now the pattern, familiar to us, has re-emerged at an elite level and the discontent is ten times louder. The only question now is how much have Boehly and Co. bought into the project and how determined will they be to resist the toxicity within the fanbase. Potter is starting to undermine his own position with ill-judged statements post defeats. Chelsea fans don't want to hear that they lost because Southampton were ' well prepared '
If they decide to write off this season, then he won't just have to hit the ground running next season, he will have to be ripping up trees and hands up anyone who can actually see that happening?
He looks and sounds out of his depth. A man fighting to stay calm on the outside but desperate on the inside. I think, sooner rather than later, he needs to be put out of his misery.'

 

 

I've been on that forum reading quite a lot in the last week to try and make sense of Potter. 

Quite damning that almost none of them would want him back ...