2 hours ago, Mudders said:

Luis Enrique?

Doesnt seem like the club learn and think through every potential appointment thoroughly. There’s only a few that can smash this team with discipline and ruthlessness. We needed an ETH or Guardiola. Someone who’s a bit psycho and fiery. 
 

I’d like us to go for Zidane if not Tuchel back. 

i want Ancelotti or Mourinho

 

55 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

i want Ancelotti

It must be the covid that is making you see mirages (he's not coming here right now)

57 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

or Mourinho

And again the covid clogging up your mind and preventing you from thinking straight... 

16 minutes ago, RMH said:

And again the covid clogging up your mind and preventing you from thinking straight... 

Say what you want about Mourinho but atleast you'd never see him manage a demotivated team that's sliding down the table at the speed of light.

26 minutes ago, RMH said:

It must be the covid that is making you see mirages (he's not coming here right now)

And again the covid clogging up your mind and preventing you from thinking straight... 

 

1 hour ago, azpi28 said:

i want Ancelotti or Mourinho

 

4 hours ago, Mudders said:

I’d like us to go for Zidane if not Tuchel back. 

This forum used to joke that soon we'd run out of managers to hire and then fire

For the record, the only manager who I felt was wrongly sacked in the Abramovich era was Ancelotti. 

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2 minutes ago, Qaz said:

 

This forum used to joke that soon we'd run out of managers to fire and then fire

there will always be the brentford and brighton manager to hire when they aren't in a relegation battle

We read all these comments on the next two games decide his job, but as noted above, is that really enough to save him?  Have we seen enough to suggest he is the right man to take this club forward?

I have serious doubts.  Even if we get some wins, the figure he cuts on the sideline or in press conferences does not carry enough assertiveness or confidence to foster a trophy winning mentality.  Beyond that, is he demonstrating player development - massive questions.

9 minutes ago, PhilH930 said:

We read all these comments on the next two games decide his job, but as noted above, is that really enough to save him?  Have we seen enough to suggest he is the right man to take this club forward?

I have serious doubts.  Even if we get some wins, the figure he cuts on the sideline or in press conferences does not carry enough assertiveness or confidence to foster a trophy winning mentality.  Beyond that, is he demonstrating player development - massive questions.

We aren't going to make top 4 and we aren't going to be relegated (also out of both domestic cups), so for me there is only one competition that actually matters between now and the end of the season. 

I don't get this "2 games to save his job" thinking. Sacking him after we're knocked out of the champions league is like closing the gates after the horse has already bolted from the stable.

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39 minutes ago, Argo said:

Say what you want about Mourinho but atleast you'd never see him manage a demotivated team that's sliding down the table at the speed of light.

2015/2016?

4 minutes ago, RMH said:

2015/2016?

I was being sarcastic 🤣

3 minutes ago, Qaz said:

We aren't going to make top 4 and we aren't going to be relegated (also out of both domestic cups), so for me there is only one competition that actually matters between now and the end of the season. 

I don't get this "2 games to save his job" thinking. Sacking him after we're knocked out of the champions league is like closing the gates after the horse has already bolted from the stable.

Agree, I thought that the ideal moment to sack him would have been at the beginning of the week, we need to beat Leeds (say what you want about not being relegated, but I don't see us getting many points through draws or wins) and we need to stay in the CL, so if we wanted to improve things, the sooner the better. After being eliminated from the CL, we just need to ensure not being relegated, which even Potter should be able to achieve so no point in changing coach (unless we get into the relegation danger zone).

1 minute ago, RMH said:

Agree, I thought that the ideal moment to sack him would have been at the beginning of the week, we need to beat Leeds (say what you want about not being relegated, but I don't see us getting many points through draws or wins) and we need to stay in the CL, so if we wanted to improve things, the sooner the better. After being eliminated from the CL, we just need to ensure not being relegated, which even Potter should be able to achieve so no point in changing coach (unless we get into the relegation danger zone).

I still think the optics are important.

10th we can pass as (another) fluke, 14th not so much. And there's the chance of building momentum for next season.

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Reports of a "divide" upstairs on whether to let Potter go or to stick by him. 

 

1 minute ago, Argo said:

I was being sarcastic 🤣

Phew, I thought you were being serious! 

27 minutes ago, PhilH930 said:

We read all these comments on the next two games decide his job, but as noted above, is that really enough to save him?  Have we seen enough to suggest he is the right man to take this club forward?

I have serious doubts.  Even if we get some wins, the figure he cuts on the sideline or in press conferences does not carry enough assertiveness or confidence to foster a trophy winning mentality.  Beyond that, is he demonstrating player development - massive questions.

Personally, I think all this "two games to decide" stuff is all click bait. 

Potter will be with us for a while yet ... 

48 minutes ago, PhilH930 said:

We read all these comments on the next two games decide his job, but as noted above, is that really enough to save him?  Have we seen enough to suggest he is the right man to take this club forward?

I have serious doubts.  Even if we get some wins, the figure he cuts on the sideline or in press conferences does not carry enough assertiveness or confidence to foster a trophy winning mentality.  Beyond that, is he demonstrating player development - massive questions.

But just think if he takes us to the brink of relegation before it clicking we can all say its revolutionary and progressive.  Even though at best he might...might, get us back to the position that Tuchel was at when he was sacked.

So that's progress, right?

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On 01/03/2023 at 21:16, KokeFran96 said:

We lost to Southampton at home ,Grimsby Town are a few minutes away from knocking them out of the FA cup while scoring twice . let that sink in 

We lost to Southampton away after being a goal in front as well.

And the the team we are playing Saturday thrashed us 3-0 away.

Both under the German Genius!😝😝😝

Saw " Chelsea back Potter" headline .

For a minute I thought the "b" was an "s". !

40 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

41 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Reports of a "divide" upstairs on whether to let Potter go or to stick by him. 

 

Reports of a "divide" upstairs on whether to let Potter go or to stick by him. 

From the correspondent leaning on the bar ? 😛😛

Simon Jordan has perfectly summed up our situation.

He's said when you bring in a manager you do so believing he can improve the players and the club.

Boehlys Chelsea is the first club ever to be be bringing in new players hoping they can improve the manager.

And once you start desperately hoping the manager will improve rather than believing in him he simply has to go.

1 hour ago, PhilH930 said:

We read all these comments on the next two games decide his job, but as noted above, is that really enough to save him?  Have we seen enough to suggest he is the right man to take this club forward?

I have serious doubts.  Even if we get some wins, the figure he cuts on the sideline or in press conferences does not carry enough assertiveness or confidence to foster a trophy winning mentality.  Beyond that, is he demonstrating player development - massive questions.

As silly as it sounds it's getting beyond results at this point, except if it's the Champions League. 

We need to see some form of improvement, if we win two scrappy games there's no way I'm going to be convinced. But by the same token, if we lose our next two games but play the way we did against Dortmund I'll at least be somewhat impressed. 

Good results will typically correlate with good performance, the results will come if we start getting the team to play together and scoring goals. With a lot of new players, it will take time to gel, but this is just not good enough. Sorry but no matter how many players we've signed, they should still be much better than this, not being able to beat the worst team in the league without a manager? The same team who just got beat by Grimsby? Something is terribly wrong.

There's absolutely no reason why this team shouldn't be in the top 4 next season, especially if we manage to sign a good defensive midfielder in the summer. 

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5 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

As silly as it sounds it's getting beyond results at this point, except if it's the Champions League. 

We need to see some form of improvement, if we win two scrappy games there's no way I'm going to be convinced. But by the same token, if we lose our next two games but play the way we did against Dortmund I'll at least be somewhat impressed. 

Good results will typically correlate with good performance, the results will come if we start getting the team to play together and scoring goals. With a lot of new players, it will take time to gel, but this is just not good enough. Sorry but no matter how many players we've signed, they should still be much better than this, not being able to beat the worst team in the league without a manager? The same team who just got beat by Grimsby? Something is terribly wrong.

There's absolutely no reason why this team shouldn't be in the top 4 next season, especially if we manage to sign a good defensive midfielder in the summer. 

Honestly, I'm a bit worried a small pick up in results will keep Potter in the job for months and hurt us in the long term. If we hadn't scraped a win past Palace he'd probably be gone now

Just now, Drogba1 said:

Honestly, I'm a bit worried a small pick up in results will keep Potter in the job for months and hurt us in the long term. If we hadn't scraped a win past Palace he'd probably be gone now

When we lost 4-0 to United under Lampard, I was actually very impressed despite the result. We battered them away from home with a team full of kids, the result didn't match the performance. A lot of games under Lampard we actually saw a lot of promise, but defensively we were the worst it's ever been for a long time at Chelsea FC. So in the long term it was just never going to work. 

Right now I'm not seeing anything, I can't for the life of me even see what we're trying to do. I agree with playing the 4 at the back, but we're still not even trying to change the ugly parts of our game, holding onto the ball, and constant sideways passing. And now we can't even play possession football well, at least before we could actually dominate possession and teams would usually knick a goal while we missed 10 chances. Now we aren't creating chances and we keep losing the ball. 

I don't put any stock into this "he's got two games" thing, he's already had three important games to decide his job after terrible form, lost all three of them and still hasn't been sacked. That would've been an optimal time for a quick managerial change and potential bounce. It's gone now, so he's staying, it's as simple as that. It doesn't matter if we lose our next two games, he's going to see the season out like it or not.

I just hope there's some clause in the contract somewhere that it's easier to sack him in the summer. Because I still refuse to believe he's on that sort of contract, there's no way the board would be that stupid. 

Apparently Todd went for Potter because he saw the "Chelsea Potter" pub in the King's Road and liked the sound of it .