On 19/04/2023 at 19:52, LongtimerLurker said:

Boehly wanting to sign Felix permanently sums up exactly what's wrong with him and his advisors. 0 sense and knowledge about how to manage your financial resources. 

What happened to buying low and developing. All we've seen is high financial outlays with very little resale value

Where's the academy gone ?

I know it wasn't great but I enjoyed the season we had the transfer ban because, dare I say it, the boys really gave everything ... every match.

On Joao Felix he's definitely got talent but appears to have no end product, could say that about everyone who plays for Chelsea atm.

Hard to judge whether he'd be a good fit or not... depends where we are going... anyone know where we are going... perhaps the new manager will decide that?

Edited April 21, 20233 yr by Bebe1980

2 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Disagree.

I've seen enough of Felix at Chelsea, along with his spells at Atletico and Benfica, to suggest he's simply a flashy player on the ball but has zero end product and offers very little in terms of press. If an attacker offers very little in terms of pressing or defensive contribution, they must have end product to counter balance their lack of defensive contribution. Felix offers neither so what's the point?

 

He has ‘Marketability’ and one of the best bullsh*tters in sport fighting in his corner, Jorge god damn Mendes and he’ll be on his A-game trying to convince us of this fraud; whilst Atletico continue to thrive without him.

5 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Would rather keep Lukaku, and that is saying something. At least Rom occasionally puts the ball in the net.

That's only in training.

 

5 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

 

Eriksen didn't do too badly under Pochettino at Tottenham.

13 minutes ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

Eriksen didn't do too badly under Pochettino at Tottenham.

IIRC Eriksen's defensive game was improved on under Pochettino. And even then, Eriksen's ball playing ability was on par with Cesc and KDB at the time. 

This again goes back to my counter balance argument. Felix offers very little offensively and defensively. 

3 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

IIRC Eriksen's defensive game was improved on under Pochettino. And even then, Eriksen's ball playing ability was on par with Cesc and KDB at the time. 

This again goes back to my counter balance argument. Felix offers very little offensively and defensively. 

But what's to say Pochettino wouldn't equally improve Felix?

6 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

 

Another reason to hire Pochettino then.

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/report-chelsea-will-offer-their-29-year-old-player-in-swap-deal-for-71m-attacker-enzo-fernandez-loves/

Makes sense to me. 

2 hours ago, just said:

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/report-chelsea-will-offer-their-29-year-old-player-in-swap-deal-for-71m-attacker-enzo-fernandez-loves/

Makes sense to me. 

Think its a much better deal to not sign Felix and sell Lukaku... At least do a straight swap, both players have similar valuations... the article sent shivers down my spine, as does recruiting spurs failure and never won a big cup Pochetino... Since when do CFC do sloppy seconds on spud players or managers... 

13 hours ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

But what's to say Pochettino wouldn't equally improve Felix?

Christian Eriksen was brilliant before and after Pochettino.

There are more players worth to have a look at: Argentinian super talent Erik Lamela, Brazilian AMC Lucas Moura, Dele Alli... All with a "unpolished diamond" label.

Did they fulfill their potential, managed by Pochettino for several years?

Diego Simeone giving up on Joao Felix is a huge warning sign. Yeah Joao Felix could turn into one of the best players in the world, but he's now operated in several different teams under several different managers and not much is happening. If it wasn't for the intial massive transfer fee Atletico paid, no one would even be considering to pay £100m for this player.

You paid £63m for a player with three good seasons (one in the PL and two in La Liga), probably regret that, and now you may end up paying £100m (again..) for a player who has failed for 3.5 years in La Liga and half a season in England. The risk is obvious that you will pay massive money to get stuck with some sort of wealthy-mans-Marko-Marin for five years.

On 21/04/2023 at 14:14, timetowaste said:

Putting Mount up there with Drogba or Hazard is hilarious. Being 'props Chels' doesn't put you up there with our best ever players. Quite frankly even putting Mount up there with Felix in terms of ability is a stretch.

Felix should be honoured to be compared to Mount. Never performed in a big league while Mount has won back to back POTY's and played a crucial role in a CL win. What has Felix ever actually done outside of Portugal other than a few flicks for a youtube comp?

If Pochettino, or preferably  @Zeta, is the new manager and don't want to keep Felix, can we just send him back to Atletico early?

He is not in my plans.

25 minutes ago, Zeta said:

He is not in my plans.

Apparently Pochettino has agreed to keep him on for a season loan next year.

Given we paid what almost 10mill for the half season and his huge wages how much is it going to cost us to watch him coast through games and pull out the ineffective party tricks for a whole year?

11 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Apparently Pochettino has agreed to keep him on for a season loan next year.

Given we paid what almost 10mill for the half season and his huge wages how much is it going to cost us to watch him coast through games and pull out the ineffective party tricks for a whole year?

Expensive loan. 

7 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Expensive loan. 

Very. If half a season was near 10mill logically they will want 20mill for a full season. If so that is Badiashile transfer paid for 18 months of loans...

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

Very. If half a season was near 10mill logically they will want 20mill for a full season. If so that is Badiashile transfer paid for 18 months of loans...

I don't believe it just yet. 

Given the choice I reckon Pochettino chooses Mount over Felix. 

Completely disinterested when he came on last night .

If we sign this guy permanently and let Mason go it will be absurd! 

This 14 second clip is all I saw of the Brentford match, but it sums up why I'd be very happy to send Felix back to Madrid. I don't know if this was posted here already.

 

16 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

I don't believe it just yet. 

Given the choice I reckon Pochettino chooses Mount over Felix. 

Any manager that wants to succeed would choose the same, i hope the board aren't this stupid

On 26/04/2023 at 21:40, axman2526 said:

Very. If half a season was near 10mill logically they will want 20mill for a full season. If so that is Badiashile transfer paid for 18 months of loans...

Yep - which is money down the drain - however, it is still less risky than buying him outright.

say we got him for £50m + £250k per week salary (£13. pa). With the rule change and us only able to amortise over 5 years, that works out at a £23m hit on FFP every year - a liability we would have for 5 years.

Given the uncertainty over if this guy is the real deal, then it would be another big risk - hence, possibly better to minimise that liability and only commit for 1 year, which depending on the loan fee may not end up costing us more in FFP terms per year. Especially  if we can negotiate that any loan fee will be deducted from the purchase price if we eventually want to go all in.

I am watching the ATP finals in Madrid between Carlos Alcaraz and Struff, and guess who’s at the front row watching the match?  Yup, Joao is there, with other footballers.

On 07/05/2023 at 18:29, Phillip said:

I am watching the ATP finals in Madrid between Carlos Alcaraz and Struff, and guess who’s at the front row watching the match?  Yup, Joao is there, with other footballers.

Hope his flight home gets cancelled