TheCeleryKing Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Jao Felix is looking for a move away from Madrid. Maybe even as early as January. Hakim Ziyech has to be leaving soon. Maybe even Pulisic? Maybe a Pulisic for Felix swap + cash deal could be reached? Felix in and Pulisic and Ziyech out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gol15 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 He maybe suffered due to the Cholo effect, defensive and rigid football didn't suit him. He's still just 22 but the reason why I'm skeptical about us going for him is the fact that from what I know he plays centrally like Griezmann/Dybala (more or less) and not so much wide but there we have already have Havertz and Gallagher and not to mention Mount as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWall Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 I think he may well be too lightweight for the PL. I don't doubt his ability, its his strength and ability to meet the required pace of the PL that I think may be suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 https://twitter.com/TeleFootball/status/1607418490570276865 A.Madrid have let him know he can leave in January, likely a loan due to the money they spent on him. He was a bright spark for Portugal during the WC but isn't he another Havertz in terms of position? ducavis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Harris Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 I have always thought he was playing in the wrong team. His skillset is very restricted for Atletico Madrid. I wonder how he would look in a free-flowing team. Night-T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axman2526 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Would not mind it at all. I do feel he is very much like Havertz and that could be a problem. However he is not Falcao, Pato or, more recently, Lukaku or Auba, old, past it with nothing but money left. He still needs to prove his ability at the top and he was not all hype. I would like to see us get him on an 18month loan with buy option, turned in to a buy obligation based on conditions. Gives him something to go after, gives us a proper chance to see him during the project not right at the beginning only. Oli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gol15 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Somehow it looks like an underwhelming signing. Not cause J.Felix is a bad player but I think he simply spent too much time with Cholo and his development stopped, as if he peaked at 20. Not even sure if he would do well in the PL or if he could be our poacher... Anyway I found this interesting article, apparently Joao was a Havertz before Havertz, not playing in the "Kaka role" so he would fit right in: https://theanalyst.com/eu/2022/02/joao-felix-one-of-footballs-great-untapped-resources/ This breeds a conflict between Félix – the expressive star who craves the ball at his feet and a surrounding cast of participants – and Simeone, the manager who craves an XI of like-minded competitors who reinforce a menacing collective in place of free-flowing attacking conditions. By this stage, it’s quite clear that Simeone is not going to be able to re-wire his game in the same way he did with Antoine Griezmann in the mid-2010’s. While Félix has largely been played as part of a front two in his Atlético career, he is naturally in between that of a striker and a midfielder. He told El Español in 2021 that his first reference as a player was Kaká, while in an interview with the Players Tribune he explicitly stated: “I’m not a goalscorer” when recalling details from a game between Benfica and Sporting CP some years earlier. The ideal version of Félix should be that of a prolific playmaker who can also find his way into scoring opportunities through intelligent play in the final third, rather than that of a standard ‘striker in a front two’ who looks to work off the creation around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongtimerLurker Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Gol15 said: Somehow it looks like an underwhelming signing. Not cause J.Felix is a bad player but I think he simply spent too much time with Cholo and his development stopped, as if he peaked at 20. Not even sure if he would do well in the PL or if he could be our poacher... Anyway I found this interesting article, apparently Joao was a Havertz before Havertz, not playing in the "Kaka role" so he would fit right in: https://theanalyst.com/eu/2022/02/joao-felix-one-of-footballs-great-untapped-resources/ This breeds a conflict between Félix – the expressive star who craves the ball at his feet and a surrounding cast of participants – and Simeone, the manager who craves an XI of like-minded competitors who reinforce a menacing collective in place of free-flowing attacking conditions. By this stage, it’s quite clear that Simeone is not going to be able to re-wire his game in the same way he did with Antoine Griezmann in the mid-2010’s. While Félix has largely been played as part of a front two in his Atlético career, he is naturally in between that of a striker and a midfielder. He told El Español in 2021 that his first reference as a player was Kaká, while in an interview with the Players Tribune he explicitly stated: “I’m not a goalscorer” when recalling details from a game between Benfica and Sporting CP some years earlier. The ideal version of Félix should be that of a prolific playmaker who can also find his way into scoring opportunities through intelligent play in the final third, rather than that of a standard ‘striker in a front two’ who looks to work off the creation around him. Another Kai then basically, but if he scores a UCL winning goal for us I don't mind. I like him as a player, but if the reports of Potter planning to utilise Kai as a centre forward are true. We need a goal scoring winger not another player in the same build as Kai. Gol15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night-T Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) I think actually that this type might work very well with Havertz tbf. Playing them together looks to me a much better fit than Kai - Lukaku or Kai - Auba. As they are both footballing types of players. So they could assist eachother and link up well in the combination. I wouldn't mind seeing the outcome. Especially with Nkunku next season. Edited December 27, 2022 by Night-T Gentian and Sexyfootball 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducavis Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Just feels like we are throwing sh*t on the wall to see what sticks. Needs to be played as a “10” in a 4-2-3-1 to be effective, he isn’t a CF or a winger. just 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gol15 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 8 hours ago, LongtimerLurker said: Another Kai then basically, but if he scores a UCL winning goal for us I don't mind. I like him as a player, but if the reports of Potter planning to utilise Kai as a centre forward are true. We need a goal scoring winger not another player in the same build as Kai. Yea some winger, inside-forward that can finish chances would be the best but apparently it's impossible to find such a profile... LongtimerLurker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozboy Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 He was great at the world cup, stood out, but then that's rarely an indication of how you go in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BordeauxBlue Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 14 hours ago, Scott Harris said: I have always thought he was playing in the wrong team. His skillset is very restricted for Atletico Madrid. I wonder how he would look in a free-flowing team. He'd best not come to Chelsea then... 😭 axman2526 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider6004 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Not sure on him as a No.10 very busy and technically good yet did not seem clinical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMata Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 A technically gifted player who has little effect on a football match. He’ll fit right in. strider6004, Oli and Edjmendy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM7 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 We need goalscorers. Stay clear I think. Will cost a fortune as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 So many people seem to be on this World Cup high. Ziyech looked like a world beater at the WC, so I wouldn't put much into performances for country vs club. charierre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deino Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Part of me is excited about being linked with him but part of me feels like he's too much like Havertz. If he was like an Aguero in terms of productivity, he'd be very very good. His skillsets matches well with our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefBlueCFC Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Don’t think it would happen, but I’d love him on 6-month loan with buy option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBison Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Hard pass. Atletico want something like €20M for a half year loan ducavis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyVblue Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 We should be in for him in my opinion. We are crying out for a playmaker. Someone who can pick out a pass in the final third a score from outside of the box. Someone with a bit of flair and imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWall Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Not for €20m for five months and presumably cup tied for the two remaining CL games we are likely to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sconnie Blue Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, WhiteWall said: Not for €20m for five months and presumably cup tied for the two remaining CL games we are likely to have. They got rid of that rule a year or two ago. WhiteWall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aguia_SLB Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 What a waste of talent with Simeone (Atletico) and Fernando Santos (Portugal). He deserves the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axman2526 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Aguia_SLB said: What a waste of talent with Simeone (Atletico) and Fernando Santos (Portugal). He deserves the Premier League. Could just go back to Benfica. You guys play good football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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