45 minutes ago, Big Nigel said:

Really baffled as to how people can watch this guy with their own eyes and then they they don't want him? He is a magical player and we haven't had someone of this sort of quality and natural ability since Hazard. Even if his goals/assists numbers aren't that impressive, the sheer technical ability and vision be brings on the pitch with the quality chances created its a no brainer that we should sign him.

Only sticking point is the potential fee, but im hoping a deal cam be agreed where its somewhat reasonable. The amount we ended up spending on Nkunku, if we had known about Felix before we almost definitely should and would have gone for him. Far superior player imo

people like felix and I really believe that most of us wound't mind to keep him at next seaason,

the fact that people don't want see chelsea paying 100M for him. The problem is the insane money that atletico demands to sell him

Edited March 16, 20233 yr by Mário César

16 minutes ago, Mário César said:

people like felix and I really believe that most of us wound't mind to keep him at next seaason,

the fact that people don't want see chelsea paying 100M for him. The problem is the insane money that atletico demands to sell him

well Ive been seeing a few people who don't want to sign him just because he replaces a fan favourite... 

from what ive been seeing and hearing we have a good relationship with Athletico so a deal should be fairly easy to agree. I think a fee of about 80m was touted which i think is very fair in this current market. Not to mention im sure we have plenty of players in our books that athletico will be interested in that we can provide in a swap

1 minute ago, Big Nigel said:

well Ive been seeing a few people who don't want to sign him just because he replaces a fan favourite... 

from what ive been seeing and hearing we have a good relationship with Athletico so a deal should be fairly easy to agree. I think a fee of about 80m was touted which i think is very fair in this current market. Not to mention im sure we have plenty of players in our books that athletico will be interested in that we can provide in a swap

His lazyness caused West Ham to get an equalizer against us. 

His streak of fluffed chances against Dortmund, both legs, had us almost not qualify if it weren't for Havertz. 

His lazyness caused Leicester to get an equalizer against us which was completely avoidable. 

 

Sorry. For 80m that is a big no thank you. And this is coming from one of Mount's biggest critics. 

9 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

His lazyness caused West Ham to get an equalizer against us. 

His streak of fluffed chances against Dortmund, both legs, had us almost not qualify if it weren't for Havertz. 

His lazyness caused Leicester to get an equalizer against us which was completely avoidable. 

 

Sorry. For 80m that is a big no thank you. And this is coming from one of Mount's biggest critics. 

Laziness is his biggest issue imo. He showed it in abundance in that first half, too lazy to get his head up and play Mudryk in for a tap in, too lazy to watch the defensively line properly so he does not run offside.

Money we paid for him means he plays, but I have not seen anything from him, other than from entertainment value, to say he is better for this team than Mount, Sterling or Madueke.

12 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

His lazyness caused West Ham to get an equalizer against us. 

His streak of fluffed chances against Dortmund, both legs, had us almost not qualify if it weren't for Havertz. 

His lazyness caused Leicester to get an equalizer against us which was completely avoidable. 

 

Sorry. For 80m that is a big no thank you. And this is coming from one of Mount's biggest critics. 

the downsides you are mentioning about him are just defensive work? thats clearly not his strong suit, and I believe what he brings in the attacking half far outweighs some defensive frailties. He has missed a few chances and seems to love the woodwork so i'll give you that, but thats not really that big an issue. The fact hes getting into those positions in the first place is a positive for me

9 minutes ago, Big Nigel said:

the downsides you are mentioning about him are just defensive work? thats clearly not his strong suit, and I believe what he brings in the attacking half far outweighs some defensive frailties. He has missed a few chances and seems to love the woodwork so i'll give you that, but thats not really that big an issue. The fact hes getting into those positions in the first place is a positive for me

I think for 80m he needs to be far better than he currently is off the ball. Every top attacking player in the league, be it Bernardo Silva, KDB, Salah, Mane, Rashford, Odegaard, etc contribute defensively in some form. 

Considering Nkunku coming in and a Top ST being our priority, I honestly don't see Felix making any sense unless we sell Havertz. 

 

We need to do all we can to keep him IMO.

On 16/03/2023 at 15:05, Big Nigel said:

Really baffled as to how people can watch this guy with their own eyes and then they they don't want him? He is a magical player and we haven't had someone of this sort of quality and natural ability since Hazard. Even if his goals/assists numbers aren't that impressive, the sheer technical ability and vision be brings on the pitch with the quality chances created its a no brainer that we should sign him.

Only sticking point is the potential fee, but im hoping a deal cam be agreed where its somewhat reasonable. The amount we ended up spending on Nkunku, if we had known about Felix before we almost definitely should and would have gone for him. Far superior player imo

You use a lot of adjectives without much substance. ‘Magical’, ‘quality’, ‘natural ability’ can you give me examples of these? Yesterday he had a nice half turn on a player that lead to nothing and finally hit the target with a shot for his goal. Outside of that he was largely wasteful in possession again and can’t be trusted to hold any sort of defensive shape or work rate for them team. @dkw summed it up perfectly, he’s a YouTube player. Will look fantastic in a 3 minute short with his best moments splashed in over the course of a season but he’s absolutely not improving the team. Get to summer and we already have our upgrade waiting with Nkunku. To have the audacity to mention his name in the same sentence as Hazard is offensive to me, this man is a Pogba. 

 

Seems weird to me to criticise the one player that is actually trying to get shots on goal. He's not perfect and he can be sloppy at times, but he's performing better than every single one of our attacking players right now.

21 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Seems weird to me to criticise the one player that is actually trying to get shots on goal. He's not perfect and he can be sloppy at times, but he's performing better than every single one of our attacking players right now.

Yeah, I'm not understanding this Felix bash fest at the minute, lots of people slagging him off. 

I'm still on the fence about signing him or not, some real quality there undoubtedly. But with the way the team has been performing, he's still managed to put in some really good games/performances. Then he's had some stinkers, but again, the team hasn't been playing too well.

My gripe is that he does seem to miss quite a few chances, which has been an unnervingly common thing at Chelsea FC for a while. I wish we had a player who could put away chances again.

58 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Seems weird to me to criticise the one player that is actually trying to get shots on goal. He's not perfect and he can be sloppy at times, but he's performing better than every single one of our attacking players right now.

No use having shots at goal when you’re clearly not that good at them and choosing not to pass to someone who can shoot like an over lapping James. It’s the decision making that matters. 

2 hours ago, just said:

We need to do all we can to keep him IMO.

80m though?

Thought his performance last night as a lot better (work rate wise), but with Nkunku coming in and a ST being a priority, where exactly does he fit? There is also Havertz, Mudryk, Sterling, and Madueke to consider. 

3 hours ago, just said:

We need to do all we can to keep him IMO.

Agreed. The only one of our forward players who can do that little something special to open up a defence or inject a little pace into a counter attack.  

Not a perfect player by any means but we are a better team with him and there are many many others I'd be looking to punt before deciding not to pursue a permanent deal for Felix.

14 minutes ago, loz said:

Agreed. The only one of our forward players who can do that little something special to open up a defence or inject a little pace into a counter attack.  

Not a perfect player by any means but we are a better team with him and there are many many others I'd be looking to punt before deciding not to pursue a permanent deal for Felix.

Who do we get rid of? (and this is assuming Pulisic, Ziyech, and Mount get sold and Fofana loaned out)

 

New ST

Havertz

Sterling

Mudryk

Madueke

Nkunku

Felix

Broja

 

8 players for 3/4 positions. 

55 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Who do we get rid of? (and this is assuming Pulisic, Ziyech, and Mount get sold and Fofana loaned out)

 

New ST

Havertz

Sterling

Mudryk

Madueke

Nkunku

Felix

Broja

 

8 players for 3/4 positions. 

From that list I'd let Broja and Sterling go and be prepared to punt Havertz if a decent offer came in

1 hour ago, loz said:

Agreed. The only one of our forward players who can do that little something special to open up a defence or inject a little pace into a counter attack.  

Not a perfect player by any means but we are a better team with him and there are many many others I'd be looking to punt before deciding not to pursue a permanent deal for Felix.

Plus he’s only 23 and probably hasn’t reached his peak yet. He’s already made improvements and adjustments to his game in the matches he’s played for us and I can only see him get better. If we don’t sign him permanently I can imagine one of our rivals pouncing for him this summer.

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Who do we get rid of? (and this is assuming Pulisic, Ziyech, and Mount get sold and Fofana loaned out)

 

New ST

Havertz

Sterling

Mudryk

Madueke

Nkunku

Felix

Broja

 

8 players for 3/4 positions. 

That seems like a lot only in theory but considering the amount of games we will play if we make Europe and our rate of injuries, that isn’t a bad number for those positions. Plus I imagene havertz, Broja and the new striker will be limited to the st position leaving more room for the other players in the more dynamic roles behind the striker.

33 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

That seems like a lot only in theory but considering the amount of games we will play if we make Europe and our rate of injuries, that isn’t a bad number for those positions. Plus I imagene havertz, Broja and the new striker will be limited to the st position leaving more room for the other players in the more dynamic roles behind the striker.

We already have 8 players fighting for 3 positions, with report after report of Potter having a difficult time managing this many players. 

We realistically need to get rid of 2 from the list I provided, on top of Ziyech, Pulisic, and Mount. 

Can we drop the ‘creative’ label people keep throwing about now?

 

18 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Can we drop the ‘creative’ label people keep throwing about now?

 

We've got plenty of other attacking options available to Potter, so why do you think he keeps playing Felix ?

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

We already have 8 players fighting for 3 positions, with report after report of Potter having a difficult time managing this many players. 

We realistically need to get rid of 2 from the list I provided, on top of Ziyech, Pulisic, and Mount. 

Even if we do have to get rid of one of them why does it have to be Felix who is our best-performing forward at the moment?

Edited March 19, 20233 yr by Frankie8Lampard

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Can we drop the ‘creative’ label people keep throwing about now?

 

I'd rather lose this f**king awful modern day pish of giving players xA scores or whatever else pish stat people use. 

Anyone that needs sh*te like that to make an argument for or against a player really needs to spend more time actually watching the game.

Needs to improve both his awareness and final ball to become a truly top player.

He is doing the same things Mount gets slaughtered for. Poor final pass, poor decision making.

@RIP Mourinho clip shows him likely costing us a goal. The right ball to James and it is likely in the net. We know Reece is often lethal in that position.

He did the same denying Mudryk at Leicester.

If you are Benzema or Ronaldo and you lash it in most of the time fair enough. He does not, you have to be aware and not selfish, put the team first. 

So far he has shown me he has a lot of quality, but is also a selfish player who lacks awareness .

58 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Even if we do have to get rid of one of them why does it have to be Felix who is our best-performing forward at the moment?

Because I can't see us selling Havertz and/or Sterling. We'd genuinely need two major outgoings for Felix + a new ST coming on board to make sense depth wise. There is just way too many players to manage. 

And even then, I haven't seen enough to justify his ridiculous 80m price tag.