Just what on earth is a player doing being injected with stem cells... from a frigging moo moo... sign Frankenstein next time.

38 minutes ago, Mod said:

"I'm home mom"

Udder nonsense

2 hours ago, bluelightening said:

Just what on earth is a player doing being injected with stem cells... from a frigging moo moo... sign Frankenstein next time.

Arsenal once sent Robin van Persie to be massaged with horse placenta

Cow stem cells!!

Oh I wish they would just "crack" on with this investigation and "speed" things up.

42 minutes ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Arsenal once sent Robin van Persie to be massaged with horse placenta

No. It was actually Van Nistlerooy.

Just now, just said:

No. It was actually Van Nistlerooy.

That's right, they used van Nistelrooy's placenta. No coincidence that van Persie started scoring goals after that.

7 minutes ago, SydneyChelsea said:

That's right, they used van Nistelrooy's placenta. No coincidence that van Persie started scoring goals after that.

Have to give it to Van Nistlerooy. A great striker and finished second in the Grand National.

This is exactly the issue though, the player is paying the price for something he had absolutely no idea about.

He’s not Mutu’ing it and doing a bit of shovel to improve his ‘endurance’ shall we say.

Mudryk (Love him or hate him) is an innocent victim in all of this. So are Chels for that matter.

The NT doctor should face jail time and be liable for all costs as he’s KNOWINGLY used something if not ‘illegal’ definitely within a ‘grey area’ on a player.

The perfect example I gave earlier in this thread was former Romanian tennis player Simona Halep who's carreer was basically ruined by something similar. Shortly after hiring the famous Mouratoglou (and his team) as a coach, she was given a medicine by Mouratoglou's doctors, that, in the end, was proved to have been contaminated. But Mouratoglou and his staff stayed silent for years to not ruin their reputation, just for them to later admit that it was their fault and the doctors of Mouratoglou Academy were reckless in giving her that medicine. Needless to say it was way too late and Simona Halep's carreer was over, she was already in her 30s, no way she was going to still keep pace with the pros after years on the sidelines.

Those doctors' mistake ended her time on tour, but what is more despicable is their choice of staying silent for years when things could have get resolved faster had they come forward earlier. I feel this is what happens in Mudryk's case as well which is a shame because clearly there are people that know they are at fault, but just won't admit it and will stay silent and keep their jobs. Pathetic human beings.

If this is the truth I think Mudryk has hard time trusting his coaches and doctors from now on. I think at that point he had blind faith to his national team docs...why wouldn't you.

I love the fact Shakthar is doing something with it as their deal with us was so heavily relied on bonuses... which naturally is complete non-news to media. In their eyes Mudders is 80m.

Anyway these cases should have some lenience on the athlete. He gained absolutely nothing from that treatment over his peers and it was illegally given to him if that is the truth. Sad thing is MM will be sidelined until the hammer has fallen. That could be longer than his eventual ban.

Is it Actovegin? NRL scandal more than 10 years ago about Actovegin injections, calves-blood product as far as I know. Manly Sea Eagles were involved, possibly Cronulla as well.

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15 hours ago, JM7 said:

Ukrainian Journalist Igor Burbas :

- Mudryk received a stem cell injection from the Ukrainian Nt physio to aid recovery after the player reported experiencing discomfort and not being able to play at a full capacity

- It is reported that the stem cells were derived from a cow that may have been exposed to the banned substance melodonium

(@scout_eurasia)

Forgive me if I sound ignorant but this is not how stem cells are meant to work? Have I missed any major developments lately?

Last I knew you take the stem cell from the individual or at most another person, not a different species entirely.

13 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Arsenal once sent Robin van Persie to be massaged with horse placenta

Quack doctors... voodoo and shamen next.

5 hours ago, The Boehly Babes said:

This is exactly the issue though, the player is paying the price for something he had absolutely no idea about.

He’s not Mutu’ing it and doing a bit of shovel to improve his ‘endurance’ shall we say.

Mudryk (Love him or hate him) is an innocent victim in all of this. So are Chels for that matter.

The NT doctor should face jail time and be liable for all costs as he’s KNOWINGLY used something if not ‘illegal’ definitely within a ‘grey area’ on a player.

He isnt paying a price for something he had no idea about, he isnt innocent... his body, his responsibility. He must know what is going into his body at all times... and why not then call it in with the club who pays him? "hi, can I speak to the chelsea medical team please. Hello Doctor, my national team physio is telling me I should have an injection. Should I take it or listen to you and your advice?"

It's funny how people seem to know for a fact whether Mudryk was aware or not of this debatable "performance enhancer" getting into his body.

Is it possible he was unaware? Yes. Do we know? f**k no, unless I've missed something big (which is possible).

12 minutes ago, bluelightening said:

He isnt paying a price for something he had no idea about, he isnt innocent... his body, his responsibility. He must know what is going into his body at all times... and why not then call it in with the club who pays him? "hi, can I speak to the chelsea medical team please. Hello Doctor, my national team physio is telling me I should have an injection. Should I take it or listen to you and your advice?"

I'm personally interested in what the 3rd party investigation concluded, not what Mudryk and his team believed happened. Even if the latter, it doesn't paint a good picture and just screams negligence on their part. Chelsea FC pay your wages and they should know everything that goes into your body.

1 hour ago, Remodez said:

Forgive me if I sound ignorant but this is not how stem cells are meant to work? Have I missed any major developments lately?

Last I knew you take the stem cell from the individual or at most another person, not a different species entirely.

Heard some guy high up in the Ukraine national team is taking Stem cells for its youth promoting properties and encouraged the doctors to give it to Mudryk.

Now as far as I'm away stem cells aren't banned in football. The problem is it contained the ban substance meldonium. It's very plausible that Mudryk was told by doctors he's having stem cells injected into his knee without knowing it contained a banned drug.

With Shaktar now suing the National team this could possibly open up the chance of negligence on their part and maybe freeing Mudryk of blame? But I'm no lawyer.

FREE MUDRYK!

9 minutes ago, DarkMata said:

Heard some guy high up in the Ukraine national team is taking Stem cells for its youth promoting properties and encouraged the doctors to give it to Mudryk.

Now as far as I'm away stem cells aren't banned in football. The problem is it contained the ban substance meldonium. It's very plausible that Mudryk was told by doctors he's having stem cells injected into his knee without knowing it contained a banned drug.

With Shaktar now suing the National team this could possibly open up the chance of negligence on their part and maybe freeing Mudryk of blame? But I'm no lawyer.

FREE MUDRYK!

So I've just looked into this stem cell stuff from horses, cows, etc and it's pretty much all guess work with no real scientific backing.

Now I know Mudryk is just a footballer and has advisors, etc for other aspects of his life but if my doctor comes up to me and says he's going to stick cow stem cells into my body I'm going to be quite skeptical, especially as ultimately it is my responsibility for what goes into my body.

I don't buy this story one bit to be quite frank, seems quite far fetched.

1 hour ago, Remodez said:

So I've just looked into this stem cell stuff from horses, cows, etc and it's pretty much all guess work with no real scientific backing.

Now I know Mudryk is just a footballer and has advisors, etc for other aspects of his life but if my doctor comes up to me and says he's going to stick cow stem cells into my body I'm going to be quite skeptical, especially as ultimately it is my responsibility for what goes into my body.

I don't buy this story one bit to be quite frank, seems quite far fetched.

I think it's well established people take the opinions of 'experts' and doctors without research or scepticism. Like pointed out earlier it's not the craziest of stories when it comes to players trying out alternative treatments. Its not that uncommon and there isn't much in detrimental effects from what I know to stem cells even if it is baloney and doesn't work. The problem was the meldonium present in the dosage.

If the story is true, a big if - it's like you having a cortisone injection for a bad knee and finding out later it also had cocaine in it without your knowledge and failing a drugs test. Stem cell injections doesn't mean meldonium is used.

4 hours ago, bluelightening said:

He isnt paying a price for something he had no idea about, he isnt innocent... his body, his responsibility. He must know what is going into his body at all times... and why not then call it in with the club who pays him? "hi, can I speak to the chelsea medical team please. Hello Doctor, my national team physio is telling me I should have an injection. Should I take it or listen to you and your advice?"

It’s only the same as all the numpties who went and got COVID jabs the second they came out and now are living with the side effects

Sometimes a ‘medical professionals’ word is enough and I’d assume 95% of people wouldn’t question what was ‘in’ something.

Misha goes for a pain injection, a pain injection is what he’s expecting.

FWIW the only 2 logical outcomes of this going forward as I see it is either

a) Clubs don’t release players for NT duty

or

b) Any player on NT duty is accompanied by a club Doctor at all times.

The risk quite clearly seems too much at the minute with the value of these assets.

59 minutes ago, The Boehly Babes said:

It’s only the same as all the numpties who went and got COVID jabs the second they came out and now are living with the side effects

Don't bring your idealogical nonsense onto here for f**ks sake, reading this sh*t on social media is bad enough.

3 hours ago, Remodez said:

So I've just looked into this stem cell stuff from horses, cows, etc and it's pretty much all guess work with no real scientific backing.

Now I know Mudryk is just a footballer and has advisors, etc for other aspects of his life but if my doctor comes up to me and says he's going to stick cow stem cells into my body I'm going to be quite skeptical, especially as ultimately it is my responsibility for what goes into my body.

I don't buy this story one bit to be quite frank, seems quite far fetched.

Tennis player Dayana Yastremska (of Ukraine, as well) was once the subject of a doping scandal and her excuse in court was that she gave her boyfriend a blowjob and his sperm was contaminated.

It's the silliest of excuses you can find, but then again it comes from, IMHO, the athlete with the lowest IQ in the history of sports. For me, personally, Yastremska is the dumbest sport person that has ever existed in all professional sports. From her social media presence, to her interviews, her brainless playstyle and arrogant attitude, that girl is the ultimate clown that sports has ever produced. No wonder she is the most hated player on WTA tour.

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2 hours ago, The Boehly Babes said:

It’s only the same as all the numpties who went and got COVID jabs the second they came out and now are living with the side effects

This line ends the discussion here for me with you. Im a numpty who hasnt had a single side effect... I know many others in exactly the same position as me and science also proves this point by X Millions x amount of times people have had jabs.. Let me leave this poser for you to think about. You clearly think the earth is flat and fly on planes that spread chemical and biological agents. ;-)