5 minutes ago, smileysmiles said:

Are you for real....

 No - for chelsea 

these were such bad inebt subs, i cant support potter anymore .we lost game on subs . theres no fog here , thats down to him . boehly hes got to go.

3 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

If he could coach players not to make individual mistakes we would be much better for sure.

Is that even possible?

 

I don't think either goal was necessarily down to individual errors though. The corner certainly wasn't, that was clearly a training ground routine. Haven't gone zonal all season, but we suddenly do it when things were improving in the set piece department? I don't understand that change at all.

The late goal came from the constant tactical changes. We know Koulibaly cannot stand up against players in a 1v1 anymore, this is why he has the 2 cb's next to him, but Potter took one of them off and exposed Koulibaly right at the end. 

That is more of a tactical error than a player error. It's not a good look for Koulibaly, but we have known of this weakness since the start of the season and adjusted our game to protect him, Potter threw it all out of the window right at the end.

36 minutes ago, Valerie said:

I am so fukking mad, both Everton goals were gifts.

Should have waited two weeks and gone to the women’s game at Stamford Bridge! 

39 minutes ago, Dean said:

While I share the disappointment and don’t disagree with the criticism being levelled at Potter, I still think the overall trend is ⬆️, with or without Potter. Trying to look at things as coldly as I can, if this is on Potter (and I agree it probably is), is that a bad thing? we’re improving despite today’s result, I think. If that improvement is despite, rather than because of Potter, the implications are pretty good. It would be much worse, and much harder to solve, if the players were all duds.

We've definitely improved over the last few games but it just gets frustrating when our momentum gets undone by silly mistakes from the manager and a couple of players. Hopefully, they both learn from this. 

14 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

If he could coach players not to make individual mistakes we would be much better for sure.

Is that even possible?

 

No, but a quality coach has an overall, structure so that any individual error gets covered by others around. It comes from structure and familiarity and trust of the players in each other.

Here of course we have somebody constantly putting us into a nose dive with his dreadful game management 

25 minutes ago, Dean said:

 No - for chelsea 

more likely head of the Graham Potter fan club or is that Arteta

Edited March 18, 20233 yr by smileysmiles

14 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

No, but a quality coach has an overall, structure so that any individual error gets covered by others around. It comes from structure and familiarity and trust of the players in each other.

Here of course we have somebody constantly putting us into a nose dive with his dreadful game management 

Yet some still cannot see it. Everyone makes mistakes. Sadly Potter has no credit in the bank except for the fanboys who just see an English coach or something. Honestly, I cannot even guess what it is if it's not the fact he is english.

Well one more point away from the drop zone and puts to bed that silly talk we could still make top 4.

25 minutes ago, smileysmiles said:

Yet some still cannot see it. Everyone makes mistakes. Sadly Potter has no credit in the bank except for the fanboys who just see an English coach or something. Honestly, I cannot even guess what it is if it's not the fact he is english.

True, we don't care if our club is useless as long as the manager is English.  Impeccable logic

 

28 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Well one more point away from the drop zone and puts to bed that silly talk we could still make top 4.

Or win the CL 😝

End of the day we lost 2 points today that we should have banked in spite of much criticized substitutions.

We still have a back 3 on that seconded goal, Chalobah needs to be more switched on, Koulibaly stronger bit even after those errors it is a huge, huge mistake by Kepa. It is not a long shot, it is weak and right at him. He has to save it, there is no excuse for him letting that in.

48 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

No, but a quality coach has an overall, structure so that any individual error gets covered by others around. It comes from structure and familiarity and trust of the players in each other.

Here of course we have somebody constantly putting us into a nose dive with his dreadful game management 

Sounds good.

Unfortunately you'll see top teams with top coaches giving away goals due to individual errors every week.

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

End of the day we lost 2 points today that we should have banked in spite of much criticized substitutions.

We still have a back 3 on that seconded goal, Chalobah needs to be more switched on, Koulibaly stronger bit even after those errors it is a huge, huge mistake by Kepa. It is not a long shot, it is weak and right at him. He has to save it, there is no excuse for him letting that in.

The goalkeeping error is all down to Potter obviously 

1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

I don't think either goal was necessarily down to individual errors though. The corner certainly wasn't, that was clearly a training ground routine. Haven't gone zonal all season, but we suddenly do it when things were improving in the set piece department? I don't understand that change at all.

The late goal came from the constant tactical changes. We know Koulibaly cannot stand up against players in a 1v1 anymore, this is why he has the 2 cb's next to him, but Potter took one of them off and exposed Koulibaly right at the end. 

That is more of a tactical error than a player error. It's not a good look for Koulibaly, but we have known of this weakness since the start of the season and adjusted our game to protect him, Potter threw it all out of the window right at the end.

I didn't necessarily understand the subs , but you can't blame tactics for weak goalkeeping at the end

1 hour ago, smileysmiles said:

more likely head of the Graham Potter fan club or is that Arteta

🤦‍♂️ 

End of the day 2 goals at home should be enough to beat sides who are rightly at the bottom end of the table.

We gifted them a way back in to the game on both occasions. They were not clever on either goal, it was just poor defending and goalkeeper.

We are used to being unhappy with our forwards, and midfielders, for not providing enough goals, however we 7 in the last 3 games, but we saw with the Bellingham sitter missed, the Debbie-Hall miss and Gallagher clearance, our defence and keeper is starting to show major issues.

If they repeat that in Madrid we will get spanked.

Benzema will have seen those recent issues and be like

13 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

The goalkeeping error is all down to Potter obviously 

Why not? He is ultimately responsible for everything including goalkeeper coaching. Having watched Brighton over the last ten years (very much! my second team) , I will say again 'We're On The Road To Nowhere' with Potter. Look at March for Brighton who has 18 goals on 242 appearances. 7 of these since De Zerbi took over. The turgid football we play only fools European teams and that's only because of our previous reputation. 

The talk about individual errors versus coaching. Of course for any goal conceded there is usually an individual error somewhere. Individual players have certain weaknesses. But it’s up to the coach to get the odds in his team’s favour as much as possible, to diminish the possibility of weaknesses being exposed as far as possible. You have to ask yourself - did Potter’s decisions today shift the odds further in our favour or against us? I think it’s the latter, and I think hard to argue otherwise. But i’m still prepared to give him a chance - see how it looks by the end of the season. Nothing happening till then, at the earliest, on the coaching front anyway. 

For all the flack Potter is being given on his substitutions (and I agree they weren't great) Kepa, Kaleidescape Kaliability, and Kai were absolute sh*tE in theast 10 minutes especially. Kai had two good chances and the headers he put on them were pathetic. 

FREE DD FOFANA. 

 

 

Can't even park the bus right against the worst Everton team. Damn

2 hours ago, coco said:

If we had a decent keeper we don't concede that 2nd goal.

Can't defend Kepa for that one, completely sloppy, but would hold Koulibaly to account as much. In fact that whole backline were AWOL! We are not set-up properly by a long way.

I've calmed down a bit now so feel safe to comment.  For the first 25-30 minutes I thought we moved the ball around well and were always looking to go forward, that was a positive sign that Potter might be changing things up and it was paying off.  An early goal in the 2nd half and it's starting to look good,  Felix looked lively and deserved that goal.

Then Potter takes Pulisic off who I thought was having a good game and the whole dynamic seems to change.  We are 1 nil up at home to a relegation threatened team and for some reason we try and go all defensive, thus inviting Everton to attack and the inevitable happens. We should be looking to extend our 1 goal lead, not defend it. 

It's so bloody frustrating to watch.

1 minute ago, WeatherMan said:

I've calmed down a bit now so feel safe to comment.  For the first 25-30 minutes I thought we moved the ball around well and were always looking to go forward, that was a positive sign that Potter might be changing things up and it was paying off.  An early goal in the 2nd half and it's starting to look good,  Felix looked lively and deserved that goal.

Then Potter takes Pulisic off who I thought was having a good game and the whole dynamic seems to change.  We are 1 nil up at home to a relegation threatened team and for some reason we try and go all defensive, thus inviting Everton to attack and the inevitable happens. We should be looking to extend our 1 goal lead, not defend it. 

It's so bloody frustrating to watch.

This for me is the biggest concern. Kepa and Koulibaly are donkeys but they wouldn’t have been under such needless pressure had Potter not surrendered our dominance. 

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

Well one more point away from the drop zone and puts to bed that silly talk we could still make top 4.

Ambition is silly talk now is it ?

Talk about settling for mediocrity ...