6 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Can we score more goal or at least create more chances if we play more expansive? I think the answer is obviously yes. It is just basic math, you give player more chances to create/score then they will create/score.

However there is no such thing as just sort the system and you suddenly will be clinical. Clinical finisher is clinical finisher. Ball striking and ability to get shot are skill. We saw what happen to Kai and timo. I am actually more suprised when they score than when they miss. I think all Chelsea fans want our chances to fall to Alonso/Chilwell/James 😂😂

 

It's not about players suddenly becoming clinical it's about volume.

In Tuchel's only full season we as a team produced our 3rd highest ever goal tally in the PL (only behind our 2010 and 2017 title teams) despite us not having one reliable week in week out scorer.

2 hours ago, Argo said:

It's not about players suddenly becoming clinical it's about volume.

In Tuchel's only full season we as a team produced our 3rd highest ever goal tally in the PL (only behind our 2010 and 2017 title teams) despite us not having one reliable week in week out scorer.

So stats agree with me. The last time we had realiable goal scoring threat was the last time we scored 80+ goals. 

Your stats also say basically we scored tons of goals under ancelotti but not with Mou even with Diego or Drogba + Lampard. Mou Chelsea didn't score many goals 😱😱

 

 

 

 

Edited August 17, 20232 yr by Bob stark

I think people forget that Costa was our last reliable goalgetter. 🤣🤣🤣

We had Higuain, Morata, torres. All nonsense 

We'd probably need a fair amount of players to all chip in 8-15 goals each to really contend for the league in place of a prolific goal scorer. 

Edited August 17, 20232 yr by Sconnie Blue

5 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

So stats agree with me. The last time we had realiable goal scoring threat was the last time we scored 80+ goals. 

Your stats also say basically we scored tons of goals under ancelotti but not with Mou even with Diego or Drogba + Lampard. Mou Chelsea didn't score many goals 😱😱

 

 

 

 

Not really sure what you're trying to say here?

When exactly did I say Mourinho's Chelsea didn't score many goals?

1 minute ago, Argo said:

Not really sure what you're trying to say here?

When exactly did I say Mourinho's Chelsea didn't score many goals?

Your stats basically agrees with me. 

The fact that tuchel teams was the 3rd highest scoring team even without a goalgetter is not a suprise. 

Our last reliable goalgetter was Costa and we scored 85+ goals. Then we had Morata, Higuain nonsense. 

Before that we had anelka, Drogba, +Lampard and we were scoring for fun under ance. 

 

Bet he can’t believe his bad luck. Fofana James and Nkunk going down for months

16 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

We'd probably need a fair amount of players to all chip in 8-15 goals each to really contend for the league in place of a prolific goal scorer. 

You are right. The question is can they do it? So far I don't see anyone in our team who can get many shot off except Jackson, Nkunku, Gallagher, James, Chilwell, Sterling. 

Nkunku will be out for a while. Sterling can only score tap in. Gallagher is playing dm. It is difficult to rely on fb. 

Just basic shooting stat from our 1st game

The one who get shot off was Jackson, Chilwell, Enzo. (Reece one was probably from a set piece) 

If you compare it with pool

All 4 of their attackers can get shot off. 

33 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

Just basic shooting stat from our 1st game

The one who get shot off was Jackson, Chilwell, Enzo. (Reece one was probably from a set piece) 

If you compare it with pool

All 4 of their attackers can get shot off. 

Yup. The 343 will negate a lot of attacking impetus. It’s well and fine for emergencies, but if are expecting a title/top 4 push it isn’t sustainable. 

First Fofana, then Nkunku, now James. Injury curse still there. Wonder who is next for Pochettino to deal with losing.

I’m convinced this Bohley era is cursed. 

5 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Yup. The 343 will negate a lot of attacking impetus. It’s well and fine for emergencies, but if are expecting a title/top 4 push it isn’t sustainable. 

It wasn't 343 though, it was 4231 with chilwell as lw. 

 

12 hours ago, Adamrb said:

Bet he can’t believe his bad luck. Fofana James and Nkunk going down for months

If he looked at our injury record for the last 5 years I think it's a safe bet.

I'm not even shocked about this stuff anymore, it's the norm. 

I don’t think any of our injuries this season are surprising or a curse.  Each of fofana, James and nkunku missed most of last season with injuries.  Nkunku is the one you might have hoped would have avoided it. 

recently my dog had an expensive knee reconstruction. If  that had happened when it was younger the odds of the other knee also failing are about 40%. As an older dog there are better odds for the other knee. 

point is I think that players subject to muscle or tissue injuries will get more of them than other players. 

Poch now has a midfield three that can outrun, out work and outplay any midfield three in the world

1 hour ago, El regreso said:

Poch now has a midfield three that can outrun, out work and outplay any midfield three in the world

they've got a lot of years to grow together as well now

Edited August 18, 20232 yr by Adamrb

Good news on Reece, only a few weeks out. 

Also apprecciate that Broja will be given a chance.

11 hours ago, El regreso said:

Poch now has a midfield three that can outrun, out work and outplay any midfield three in the world

The only midfield 3's that can compare are those of City and especially Madrid. This is all on paper, of course. 

Despite the money spent, what happens if Enzo gets an injury for a few weeks/months? What does our midfield look like? We don't really have anyone ready to offer 50% of what he offers. That's actually worrying, but maybe I'm reading too much into it.

11 hours ago, El regreso said:

Poch now has a midfield three that can outrun, out work and outplay any midfield three in the world

We need to see if they have goals in them as well.

Lot of potential, lot to prove.

Will one day we look back on these 3 as fondley as we do the trio of Maka, Lamps and Essien? I hope so.

It's probably my anti Spurs bias but I really REALLY didn't want Poch as a manager. But now that he's here, I hope he exceeds all expectations by a country mile. His Spurs teams lacked any sort of cohones. Then again, Spurs are serial bottlers regardless of manager. And he was hardly able to sign the best players. Just hoping he's immensely successful with us.

10 hours ago, Barrettinator said:

It's probably my anti Spurs bias but I really REALLY didn't want Poch as a manager. But now that he's here, I hope he exceeds all expectations by a country mile. His Spurs teams lacked any sort of cohones. Then again, Spurs are serial bottlers regardless of manager. And he was hardly able to sign the best players. Just hoping he's immensely successful with us.

He was the best manager they've had in years, and he made them competitive. They've been nothing special since he left, even more so without Kane.

9 hours ago, Malcolm9 said:

He was the best manager they've had in years, and he made them competitive. They've been nothing special since he left, even more so without Kane.

Now they gave Ange. 

Where has this sudden reversion to a back 5 come from?

It seemed like we had switched to a back 4 in pre-season, which I was very much looking forward to given how dull watching a side with a back 5 is.

4 minutes ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

Where has this sudden reversion to a back 5 come from?

It seemed like we had switched to a back 4 in pre-season, which I was very much looking forward to given how dull watching a side with a back 5 is.

Potterttino picking the team mate. lol